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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:48 PM Original message |
Rocket launchers sold to Venezuela went to FARC |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gee, what a shock. Who would have ever thought? |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. remember how corrupt Sweden is though, so who is to say? |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. He's good to go around here. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. Yes, the mendacity of the evildoing Swedes...how could I have forgotten? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. you guys didn't read the article, did you? 3 rocket launchers, sold to venezuela in the 80s. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I read it--no one said it was a nuke, now, did they? You're the one taking issue with the amounts, |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. pathetic. seriously. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yes, you are. You'll excuse anything, if it's Hugo. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. not, actually. but you sure will swallow any gnat to hang him. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. This isn't a gnat--it's an elephant in the room--one you refuse to see. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. you think three 20+-year-old rocket launchers = elephant, you've got vision problems. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. One more time--they're single use rockets. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. headline says rocket *launcher*. a rocket launcher isn't a rocket. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Your effort to downplay this is not succeeding, and you aren't reading |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. No, let me spoon-feed you from the OP: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. And one more time: |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. NOT A ROCKET, MORE THAN 20 YEARS OLD, PORTABLE, THREE |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Are you that uninformed? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. Twenty-plus-year-old ROCKET LAUNCHERS. THREE. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Pssst--one more time--the launcher comes WITH a rocket. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. psst: one more time, it only mentioned the "launcher" part. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Did you miss the quote I provided for you? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. aren't you the one who told me big letters don't help your argument? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. You're not reading the little letters. I thought you might have an eye problem. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. One is never able to make one's case with the willfully deaf. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. And that, apparently, is what you are. An apt description of your malady, that. NT |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #93 |
249. The STUPID, it BURNS!!! |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #76 |
95. You missed this part |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #95 |
100. I didn't miss it at all. you're late to the party. now tell me about the launchers |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #100 |
159. You smelt it, you dealt it, now you prove it. nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #159 |
190. i made no claim. you did. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #100 |
183. They were designed from the very beginning to be one shot and disposable |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #33 |
56. nice straw. rocket LAUNCHER. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Hannah Bell, you're making an ass of yourself. The launcher comes WITH a rocket. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
158. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #158 |
166. Well, how nice of you to chime in out of the blue. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:30 PM Response to Reply #166 |
207. Tell the truth now! You really are in Junior high school? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #207 |
212. You're amusing. In a goofy sort of way. |
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Sensible321 (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Chavez and Drugs? I Didn't Know He Was a CIA Asset or Wall Street Investor. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. The "two wrongs" argument doesn't play well. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. The topic here is THREE 20+ YEAR-OLD ROCKET LAUNCHERS worth less than $1500 each reportedly found |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. How many weren't found? An end use agreement has been violated. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. not an "end-use agreement"! omg! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Well, the international arms community takes that "OMG" stuff pretty seriously. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. yes, i'm sure the big gangsters take it *very* seriously when the little ones go off-reservation. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Ahhh, the spitting vestige of failed argument. I am not talking about big |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:46 PM Original message |
dupe |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. & you know chavez transferred these 20-year-old rocket launchers to farc "rebels" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Ah, yes--let's call the Swedes liars, now! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. the swedes didn't find the weapons, now did they? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Ahhh, the Columbians used remote viewing to divine the serial numbers.... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #105 |
109. yes, the serial numbers of weapons venezuela bought 10 years before chavez |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. They aren't eggs or milk, you know. They don't have a "shelf life." |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. still funnier how persons like yourself inevitably resort to the tactics they perfected in jr. high |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #120 |
131. I beg your pardon? You're the one behaving like a five year old. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #131 |
139. you'd better go back & check the quality of your insults. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. If I were going to insult you, you'd know it. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #141 |
150. of course they are. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. No, they aren't. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #154 |
160. i'll take you for my model, ms manners. in fact, i did. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #113 |
208. Of course they have a "shelf life", nothing last forever, especially munitions! N/T |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #208 |
214. Those last for many years, if stored properly. Like nukes do. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #214 |
257. You have no idea about your assertion that these weapons... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:38 PM Response to Reply #257 |
262. You're making the claim they don't last? Prove it. NT |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #262 |
263. Typical childish response! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #263 |
265. There you go again. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #265 |
268. There you go again |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #268 |
269. Couldn't prove your point, I see. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-30-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #269 |
270. Couldn't prove your point, I see N/T |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
233. There is no proof Chavez illegally transferred anything |
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Sensible321 (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
62. I Agree That Cocaine and Heroin Suck No Matter Who Is Facilitating Their Distribution |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #62 |
74. Sure, but that's an entirely different topic. This also involves rebels and illegal transfer of |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
165. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #165 |
177. Why don't you grow up? And stop lecturing and scolding people, like you're the |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
209. "Caught red handed" you write? Link, some corroboration? Fingerprints? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 04:50 AM Response to Reply #209 |
219. Here ya go. Now go away, and stop tossing insults like a two year old. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:32 AM Response to Reply #219 |
222. A link? Putting a link to this very thread shows what a troll you are! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #222 |
225. Go away. And read the DU rules. NT |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:07 AM Response to Reply #225 |
253. What a hypocrite! Suggesting I "Go away" is against the DU rules. N/T |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #253 |
254. I am suggesting you "go away" from me, because your conduct is |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #254 |
255. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #255 |
256. Ah, spewing. An internet word--that means it's an important post! |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:25 PM Response to Reply #256 |
259. Crude? Personal insult? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #259 |
260. No, that's not true. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #260 |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. US military aid to fascist colombia government: 2,000,000,000+ this decade |
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BulletproofLandshark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Don't waste your time. |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. The weapons were sold to Venezuela in the 1980s. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. yeah, and then they were in the hands of the FARC. when did that transaction take place? |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Consider the source... |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Sweden?? n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. So the Swedes never said anything? That's your story? NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. lets see, the last year of the 80s = 20 years ago, know what i mean? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. They're single use rockets, but maybe in your careful reading you missed that. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
44. here's the OP, batwoman: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. One more time, since you plainly cannot read or comprehend--they are single-use rocket launchers. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Oh, they didn't find ROCKETS, as you initially held, but ROCKET LAUNCHERS? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Are you unwell? The rocket launchers are built with the rockets IN them. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. No, they're not "built with the rockets in them." They're built, then loaded with 1 of three types |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. They're sold with rockets in them. There--you admitted it, finally. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:53 PM Response to Reply #87 |
97. "It hasn't changed" since 1980-89? Cite? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. You're the one looking for evidence. Get off your ass and do some googling, dear. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #101 |
112. you made the claim, dear. btw, am i to understood you use your computer from a standing position, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I told you. I didn't "make the claim." I flat out told you. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #115 |
122. you made a claim. i ask for evidence. you can't, or won't, provide it. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #122 |
130. I gave you two links that dealt with the manufacture of the weapon. READ THEM. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #130 |
144. excuse me, but you didn't give me any links. here's the sequence of posts: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. Yes, I did give you links. Two of them. You don't read very well, do you? NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #147 |
161. where? you claim it hasn't changed, i ask for a cite, you respond (post 101): |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #161 |
164. I gave you two cites that describe the weapon. You are claiming it has changed. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:44 PM Original message |
you claim it hasn't. you made an explicit claim. manufactured goods typically |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
171. You claim it has changed. I say it has not. You made an explicit claim. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #171 |
178. excuse me, i made no claim it had or had not changed. Post 78: |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. You wanna know? You really wanna know if it has changed? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:14 PM Response to Reply #179 |
181. you don't have any knowledge of whether it's changed or not. just bullshit. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. You don't have any knowledge of whether it's not changed. Just bullshit. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #185 |
191. ah, but i never claimed i did. *you* did. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Yes, I asserted no change. If you want to prove otherwise, DO IT. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. i didn't make any claim. you did. not my job to disprove *your* claim. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. You want the specs to have changed. That is your wish. Go find proof of that, or |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. pathetic. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. What's pathetic is your inability to recognize a thief, a drug dealer and a despot |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. i haven't said word 1 about chavez, & you don't have a clue what my opinion is. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
39. I'm not "trying" to do anything. The Swedes are making the case. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
68. pitiful. squid ink & straw. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. No, not pitiful, not squid ink, not straw. You have no arguments left, I see. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. I used up all the good ones. Easy though, when the competition is arguing |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. If those were your good ones, I'd hate to see your bad ones, because your good ones stunk. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
108. like your evidence chavez gave three 20-year-old launchers to farc? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. It's not my evidence. It is the evidence of the governments of Sweden and Columbia. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. list the evidence. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:50 PM Response to Reply #125 |
134. Read the article. And grow up. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #134 |
199. you can't. cause there isn't any. no matter how often you claim there is. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #199 |
205. You are behaving in an inappropriate fashion at this stage. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #205 |
247. Deleted sub-thread |
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #205 |
251. He's a dogmatist. throwing childish insults at those who criticize St. Hugo is his MO. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #251 |
264. Not reality-based, certainly. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. This isn't about George W. Bush. N/T |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Again, the sins of others are not under discussion here. We're talking about |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
258. "Farc supporting Hugo". Any links showing this "support"? |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Well, Hugo Chávez was in the Venezuelan military back then... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. don't give them ideas. |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. The idea is as old as time. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. and chavez was the most likely soldier to do so out of thousands - because? |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. Occam's razor? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #45 |
72. that's because you're sensible. there are dozens of ways the "find" could |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
229. it was proven by the laptop files dontcha know |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #229 |
267. It was not proven. dontcha know? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
41. No, they were likely still in inventory, and Hugo had his military intel liaison hand them over |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Then it had to have been the work of a crazy industrious paper-hanging corporal |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Hee hee....! nt |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
81. maybe you misunderstood the joke. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Oh, I get your jokes--they're a real hoot, too. Thing is, you don't realize how |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #91 |
127. not my joke. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #127 |
135. I was referring to your childish, repetitive posts. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:55 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. how does she ad hom? let me count the ways. takes two to tango, lady. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. Lady? Tango? Why don't you just dance off. You have nothing to say. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:16 PM Response to Reply #140 |
182. we see someone for what they are, all right. bystanders will disagree as to who it is. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #182 |
186. You sound...unwell. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. yes, the big international smuggling of three 20-year-old rocket launchers |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Nothing to see here, move along, others do it too, it was just a small amount... |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #75 |
210. Continually calling Chavez a "despot" is a lie meant to embroil... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #210 |
213. Ah, name calling. That's the way to make your point! |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 02:38 AM Response to Reply #213 |
215. Hugo Chavez isn't a despot and you are a thread hijacker! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #215 |
216. No, I'm not, but your silly name calling is noted. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 04:39 AM Response to Reply #216 |
217. The only time you haven't responded was when I asked for a link... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 04:44 AM Response to Reply #217 |
218. Don't interact with me if you don't like me. The choice is entirely yours. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:46 AM Response to Reply #218 |
220. "Obvious you are using one" is an insult! As are many of your previous... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:59 AM Response to Reply #220 |
221. No, it isn't. And your sentence construction is clumsy and forced. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:36 AM Response to Reply #221 |
223. Nor facts or the reality on the ground! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:38 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Tsk, tsk, now--you really do need to reread the DU rules! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:45 AM Response to Reply #224 |
226. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #226 |
237. So you acknowledge that is your goal. How special. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #224 |
246. Deleted message |
MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #246 |
250. Gee, you and your "buddies" seem to be working overtime, yourselves. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #215 |
230. Agreed, Chavez is neither a despot or a dictator |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #4 |
228. no need for fingerprints. they have laptops! |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:48 AM Response to Reply #228 |
236. Yes, plenty of fingerprints on the THREE laptop computers, too |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
9. Reminds me of the some of the weapons |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. The other side of the coin, from Venezuela |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. And the facts, from Sweden, who sold VZ the weapons |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. Sweden vs Colombia |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Oh, please. They ARE. And our critical allies the Germans are swept up in this fiction, too? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. three rocket launchers that were at least 20 years old. oooh, evil chavez, |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. They're not obsolete to a group of rebels who have few assets and |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. oh, wait, i thought they were being funded from chavez's oil & drug riches? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #82 |
94. You'll have to ask your red-shirted boyfriend, now, won't you, "batwoman?" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #94 |
114. i notice you can't explain why chavez's ill-gotten drug millions can't pay for better weaponry. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
121. It's not for me to "explain" how Chavez spends his money. That's not the topic of this thread. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #121 |
129. "Chavez supplied FARC with Swedish made rocket launchers that the Swedes sold to him." |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. L'etat, c'est moi. That's Chavez. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. They were in the arsenal in 1989, before chavez came to power in 1998. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #136 |
142. And they were in the arsenal until he gave them to FARC, too. NT |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #142 |
145. you know this - how? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #145 |
148. Because militaries do inventories of their weapons on a regular basis, that's how. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #148 |
155. which is why no one notified sweden the rocket launchers were missing |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #155 |
167. Gee, you are the expert on all things Chaves--why don't you ask him how often |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. Please get a clue. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #38 |
63. Ah, so International Evildoers have taken control of RADIO SWEDEN |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #63 |
231. You didn't read the post you were replying to, did you |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #231 |
241. Deleted message |
subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #241 |
243. That's a definite 'No' |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Viva Chavez! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
64. What a steaming pile of horseshit!!! |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #64 |
107. The world loves Chvaez, deal with it. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. No, they're falling out of love with him. You might want to deal with that. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #110 |
126. LOL |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:57 PM Response to Reply #126 |
138. The Swedes know who they sold their weapons to--that's the part you can't wish away. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #138 |
143. No argument there. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #143 |
149. Absolutely. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #149 |
168. You killed your story! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #168 |
173. No, it's not news--except maybe to you and two others? NT |
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Sensible321 (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
153. I Feel So Much Better Now - Doctors Are Only In It For The Money |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #153 |
184. Many are. And many Cuban ones would be, if they could. |
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Sensible321 (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Someone Doesn't Get It |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. And if you'll look, that happened when? During the Clinton administration. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
85. you have no idea when those ROCKET LAUNCHERS got into the hands of farc, or how. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
90. Yeah, cuz...cuz,,,Uribe sneaked over the border an', an' he STOLE 'em from poor Hugo!! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
104. the swedes didn't find the weapons. the colombians did. as you know. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. The Swedes had the serial numbers of the weapons on file. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #106 |
116. the serial numbers are irrelevant. they show who bought the weapons 20-plus years ago. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Ah, you don't understand how the weapons are made, and you don't understand |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #124 |
128. they show who bought the weapons 20-odd-years ago, your evidence |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #128 |
146. If the weapons were stolen or went missing, the VZ government would have notified |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. sure, because everyone knows how meticulous & honest the venezuelan bureaucracy |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #151 |
169. Well, Chavez has had, what, ten years, to straighten that shit out? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #169 |
175. ah, but you see, i never made the claim chavez was honest, better than |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #175 |
187. Ah, so now your excuse is "Chavez is not honest?" That would make him...corrupt. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #187 |
193. I don't need an excuse. I've made no declaration of allegiance to anything or anyone. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #193 |
200. You're the only one who thinks that. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #200 |
234. Actually, reading through this thread |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #234 |
240. Gee, I really don't care what you think, either. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #240 |
242. when you're past elementary school level discourse, do let the rest of us know |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. Ah, you know all about that, I'm sure. |
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Sensible321 (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #69 |
163. What Makes Hugo Better is What He Is Doing With Venezuela's Resources |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #163 |
176. No, he's not. But if you really want to talk about that, start a thread on the Wonders of Hugo. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #176 |
198. evidence sweden is "pissed off"? evidence chavez floated the launchers to farc? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:26 PM Response to Reply #198 |
204. You're unhealthily obsessed and you aren't making sense. |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
35. Weight = 15 pounds, Price = $1,480.64 |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. That translates to a LOT of cerveza! |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #60 |
119. time for a complete on hand weapons inventory.....then a pizza run with "what falls off the truck" |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #119 |
123. yes, i do. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
47. Colombia's Military: Mission Impossible |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
111. Obviously a set-up by the right-wing Swedes who are out to get Chavez |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. the swedes didn't find the weapons. the colombians did. 9 months ago. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #111 |
132. the Chavez administration sure is vociferously denying it |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #132 |
156. The Swedes keep crummy records, then? Ah, Sweden--the 51st state!!! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #111 |
152. DOH!!!!.... Damn those right wing Swedes!!!! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #152 |
157. "Three launchers were recovered in October...and Colombia only recently asked Sweden to confirm |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. And your point is.....???? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #162 |
170. my point is exactly as stated. vz gov waited 9 months, for some reason, |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. Colombia will release the info when its convenient to them, not to you |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #172 |
188. Colombian GDP (2008): $249.8 billion; base year 2000: $93.7 billion. |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #188 |
201. yes, I know of the US aid to Colombia, and how is that relevant to |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #170 |
174. Yes--that would be an "officious military stores(sic)-keeper" from .... VENEZUELA. |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
180. THREAD SUMMARY |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:38 PM Response to Reply #180 |
189. You mean when Columbia launched a military attack * against a FARC stronghold* in Ecuador. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #189 |
195. Deleted sub-thread |
dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #189 |
235. Correa exactly didn't view the matter in those terms |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #235 |
266. I won't argue with that, but the intent, I think, was pretty clear. nt |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
194. Sweden Asks Venezuela for Information on FARC Weapons, AFP Says |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
202. Smells like bull shit to me. |
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clixtox (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 04:03 AM Response to Reply #202 |
252. "Right wing contingent" doesn't explain someone who... |
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Truth Talks (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
203. Venezuela + Colombia + Sweden...and Afghanistan??? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-27-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #203 |
206. god, didn't you hear! Chavez gave farc a cache of three 20-year old rocket launchers!!! |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
211. Serial Number SVC-1991-A2938 |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
227. remember when Saddam was so determined to get a nuclear bomb? |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
232. Corruption in a South American military? |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
238. Viva Chavez - Death to the USAmerikan Imperial Puppets in Columbia! (n/t) |
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pooplord420 (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
239. Good |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
245. Venezuela freezes diplomatic relations with Colombia, recalls its ambassador |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
248. Nevermind... |
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