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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 04:15 AM
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Adviser: US has 2 more tough years in Afghanistan
Source: AP

Adviser: US has 2 more tough years in Afghanistan

By ANNE GEARAN (AP) – 11 hours ago

WASHINGTON — An incoming adviser to the top U.S. general in Afghanistan predicted Thursday that the United States will see about two more years of heavy fighting and then either hand off to a much improved Afghan fighting force or "lose and go home."

David Kilcullen, a counterinsurgency expert who will assume a role as a senior adviser to Gen. Stanley McChrystal, has been highly critical of the war's management to date. He outlined a "best-case scenario" for a decade of further U.S. and NATO involvement in Afghanistan during an appearance at the U.S. Institute of Peace.

Under that timeline, the allied forces would turn the corner in those two years, followed by about three years of transition to a newly capable Afghan force and about five years of "overwatch."

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Kilcullen, formerly an adviser to Gen. David Petraeus and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said the Taliban-led insurgency is pursuing a classic strategy in which a militarily weaker force avoids direct warfare and sits back to "wait us out 'til we get tired and go home."

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daedalus_dude Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:50 AM
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1. 2 more tough years is the "best case scenario"?
ok...
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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:20 AM
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2. Throw in a half dozen or so 'Friedman Units' & you got yourself a quagmire.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:48 AM
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3. Hey Kilcullen you POS put DOWN THE CRACK PIPE
Edited on Fri Aug-07-09 06:51 AM by saigon68
Two years you POS--- we will be there forever. And then you advocate a decade. Trying to Stomp Out a religion will take more than 2 years. Or 10 for that matter

Oh and by the way nice job of your tanks and HumVees driving through the farmers fields and wreaking their crops.
Nice way to get the (insert racial epithet here) on your side.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 06:55 AM
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4. Would someone please remind me exacly why we are there?
You would think these fuckers would have read about Vietnam....
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:20 AM
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6. Terra!
Because it can't possibly be about keeping the military industries flush with $$$.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:02 AM
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5. Anyone remember the Powell Doctrine?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powell_Doctrine

The Powell Doctrine states that a list of questions all have to be answered affirmatively before military action is taken by the United States:

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?
8. Do we have genuine broad international support?
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 07:22 AM
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7. 100 tough years, if we're stupid enough to stay there.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 08:59 AM
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8. The Pashtun tribes and their military unit known as the Taliban are using the same tactics that have
made them victorious over every invader for several millennium.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:18 PM
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9. Hiring mercenaries? eom
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:59 PM
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10. 95+% of the Taliban are Pashtun, not mercenaries. Perhaps I misunderstood your question. n/t
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