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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:31 AM
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US no longer at war with 'terrorism', says top official
Source: Economic Times (India)

The US is no longer engaged in a "war on terrorism"; neither is it fighting "jihadists" nor locked in a "global war" as the Obama administration's top homeland security and counterterrorism official has called the terms coined by the Bush administration as unacceptable.

It is now solely a "war with Al Qaeda" and its violent extremist allies, John Brennan, who heads the White House homeland security office, said during a speech on Thursday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.

... According to Brennan, to say the US is fighting "jihadists" is wrong because it is using "a legitimate term, 'jihad', meaning to purify oneself or to wage a holy struggle for a moral goal", which "risks giving these murderers the religious legitimacy they desperately seek but in no way deserve."

"Worse, it risks reinforcing the idea that the United States is somehow at war with Islam itself," Brennan was quoted as saying.

He said the administration will not use the phrase 'war on terrorism' "because terrorism is but a tactic - a means to an end, which in Al Qaeda's case is global domination by an Islamic caliphate."


Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/News/PoliticsNation/US-no-longer-at-war-with-terrorism-says-top-official/articleshow/4868214.cms
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:33 AM
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1. Kinda impossible to be at war against a tactic.
Almost as impossible as being at war against substances.

Not nearly as impossible as being a republican with a brain, though.

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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:34 AM
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2. I have always thought that 9/11 and other such attacks were more
about oil and the oilmen who were running our country than about our nation. They hate the bush cartel crime family.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:35 AM
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3. Thank the FSM!
I was mortified that after we finished off nouns, we'd move on to adverbs.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:46 AM
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4. It was only a fear tool anyway
The only way the bu$h regime and the republicans know how to govern is by fear.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 11:53 AM
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5. Can't have a war against terrorists when all the terrorists are ours. n/t
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:00 PM
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6. But..but...didnt the BBC just announce that there is NO Al Qaeda?

http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/bbc-admit-al-qaeda-never-existed-video/

Even the British commanders said..they searched all over Afghanistan and found no Al Qaeda.

How can we be at war with something that is just as made up as the wmd's that Saddam supposedly had? It has all been a big fat pack of lies. We have been had and for this...we have let them destroy the Constitution.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:35 PM
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12. The constitution is only what two out of the three branches of gov't
say it is at any one time.

I'm still waiting for anyone to say why we are actually still in Afghanistan and who are the people we keep bombing.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:59 PM
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16. Thanks for the link...amazing stuff
K&R
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:06 PM
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7. This is a major shift if we are not automatically at war with everyone Isreal says is a terrorist
The previous policy implied that we were at war with Hamas, Hezbollah and every other group designated as terrorist, even though they were not committing acts of terror against the US.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:11 PM
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8. So now it's just another War Against Poor, Angry Brown People.
The world is right-side up again. :)
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:32 PM
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11. Unfortunately, very true.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:37 PM
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18. And here in the states, you can add abortion doctors,
Pro health insurance reformists etc as the possible victims.
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BOG PERSON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 05:38 PM
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19. ¿Que?
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 05:22 PM
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24. Terrorists killed Dr Tiller - right?
Edited on Sat Aug-08-09 05:22 PM by truedelphi
I mean, one man pulled the trigger, but would he have done that if there was not so much support for the nutwing point of view?

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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:18 PM
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9. It's a good start.

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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 12:26 PM
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10. okay, so can we, then, disband with the TSA/DHS BS then?
and can we repeal the unPATRIOTic Act and the MCA?

Put your money where your mouth is, or STFU.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:49 PM
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15. My thoughts exactly. Until the hard political apparatus is dismantled and
the unconstitutional legislation of the WoT are done away with, it's just words.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:17 PM
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13. And Al-Qaeda is everywhere!!! Booga booga!!
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 01:31 PM
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14. OK then. Adults back in charge. Lets keep it that way.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-07-09 02:14 PM
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17. Those phrases made the US look like a bunch of dumb-asses. n/t
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:38 AM
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20. Glad our rhetoric is improving, at least..
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 12:41 AM
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21. ZOMG!!!! No more Waronterra(TM)??? Whatever will we tell the children?
:cry:
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swaroop Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 01:58 AM
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22. no money
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Lagomorph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-08-09 03:14 AM
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23. Ahhhhh, but...
is terrorism still at war with us?
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