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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:22 AM
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Obama to seek to rally support for Afghan war effort
Source: reuters

President Barack Obama will seek to shore up U.S. public support for the war in Afghanistan on Monday just days before an Afghan presidential election widely seen as a major test of his revamped strategy.

Obama will address a military veterans group in Phoenix at a time when U.S. combat deaths are rising amid a troop buildup against a resurgent Taliban, and polls show a softening of public backing for the eight-year-old war.

Hoping to reassure Americans, Obama is expected to sketch out why he believes the Afghanistan policy he unveiled earlier this year is working and why the United States must remain committed to stabilizing the war-ravaged country.

Since taking office in January, he has shifted focus from the more unpopular war in Iraq to Afghanistan, setting it as his administration's top foreign policy priority.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE57G0OU20090817
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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:27 AM
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1. The encyclopedia will soon
put the map of Afghanistan under the definition of "mission creep."

Remember the original idea was that Afghans would never accept foreign troops so we did the Taliban overthrow with indigenous forces with just a few CIA agents to bring in supplies and air support.

Now here we are year after year adding more and more foreign soldiers to the battle.

It's nutty.
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create.peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:34 AM
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2. in our house we call it 'pipelinastan'////nt
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:42 AM
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5. And we started in Vietnam with only financial assistance (Truman),
Edited on Mon Aug-17-09 12:42 AM by No Elephants
then with some military "advisors,"who were not supposed to be enganging in combat themselves, only teaching the South Vietnamese how to fight (Eisenhower).

It's deja vu all over again.




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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:37 AM
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3. This veteran says get the fuck out.
As quickly as you can.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:52 AM
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7. Had a conversation with an air force guy today -
that's exactly what he said.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:13 AM
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15. And this old veteran says you are right on bro'
Only if we are actually being attacked should we use our military for anything other than the training it provides.

War is an admission of failure.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:40 AM
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4. And all the troops want to go home.
Murder.
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costahawk1987 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:46 AM
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6. We're not going to eliminate the Taliban!
Truth be told, they will (in some incarnation) probably wind up not only running Afghanistan but Pakistan. We do have to destroy Bin Laden and everyone around him though so it appears as if we accomplished something. Then the Taliban (or whatever they call themselves at the time) will own nukes and present an even greater threat, but we will have attained something that resembles success, and appearances mean more than results in the messed-up world in which we live. By then we will have ignored the science on global warming for so long that mother earth will already be shaking us off like fleas.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 12:59 AM
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8. Time to put an end to these endless wars....
and bring our troops home NOW!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:01 AM
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9. Fuck. him.
we can't afford REAL healthcare reform- but we can afford more ENDLESS, NEEDLESS wars. :banghead:

don't these ASSHOLES understand what an election mandate MEANS???? :grr: :banghead:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:09 AM
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12. 1 will get you 10 that he pushes harder for this than for
Health care with a strong public option
DADT
DOMA
Employee Free-Choice Act
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 01:09 AM
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10. Trying to reach out to the conservatives agin apparently, because no real liberal
supports this war.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 02:04 AM
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11. Don't forget what we're fighting for over there:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8204207.stm
An Afghan bill allowing a husband to starve his wife if she refuses to have sex has been published in the official gazette and become law.

The original bill caused outrage earlier this year, forcing Afghan President Hamid Karzai to withdraw it.

But critics say the amended version of the law remains highly repressive.

They accuse Mr Karzai of selling out Afghan women for the sake of conservative Shia support at next week's presidential election.

The law governs family life for Afghanistan's Shia minority.

Selling out an oppressed group to win conservative votes...where have I heard that one before?
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 05:41 AM
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13. Good luck with that one. 'Stabilization" seems to be the key word they're using now.
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:00 AM
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14. Sounds like a winning strategy
Yeah, this is really going to excite Obama's ever-shrinking liberal base. Like a lead balloon. Just what we wanted to see ... escalation of the war.
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icnorth Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 06:16 AM
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16. The troops want to come home,
friends and family want them home and the public wants them home; the military, industrial complex, on the other hand doesn't. It screws up their raison d'etat".
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Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:08 PM
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17. Obama Calls Afghan War 'Fundamental' To Defense Of US
Islamic terrorists who masterminded the 2001 strike on New York and Washington "are plotting to do so again," with help from extremist allies in Afghanistan and Pakistan, Obama told the VFW.
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspx/stock-market-news-story.aspx?storyid=200908171322dowjonesdjonline000243&title=obama-calls-afghan-war-fundamentalto-defense-of-us

Obama urges Afghanistan patience
.......US President Barack Obama has said there will be no quick or easy victory over the Taliban.

But he told a meeting of veterans in Arizona the conflict in Afghanistan was a "war of necessity", crucial in protecting Americans from terrorism.

"If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al-Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans," he said.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8206412.stm
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:40 PM
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18. He has my support
The naive pacifists apparently mistook opposition to the Iraq BS war based on a lie for opposition to all military intervention. They are having a rude awakening.

It's time to replace Neo-Conservative unilateralism not with Naive Isolationist Pacifism but Liberal Wilsonian Internationalism.
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