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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:03 AM
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18 Taliban Reported Killed in Pakistan (by civilians)
Source: New York Times

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — The bodies of 18 people believed to be Taliban militants were found in the streets in Pakistan’s Swat region on Sunday, and the police said they may have been killed in retaliation for the Taliban’s harsh rule.

One body was in the main town of Mingora, seven in Kanju town and the rest in four other villages.

Maj. Nasir Khan of the Pakistani Army’s Swat Media Center said that the military had nothing to do with the deaths and theorized that residents who had suffered under the Taliban — which banned music, burned girls’ schools and killed anyone who resisted its interpretation of Islamic law — were taking revenge on the militants.


Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/17/world/asia/17pstan.html
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 09:07 AM
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1. It's just the usual inter-tribal conflict /nt
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:13 AM
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2. Good news
It will take the general population turning against these thugs to actually get anywhere. Sounds as if they're getting there.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 10:18 AM
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3. I would love to agree, and hope you are right. But 18 people
is hardly a big dent, and retaliation from the Taliban is often more harsh and sweeping
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-17-09 11:55 AM
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4. Never said it would be easy
but until the general population starts fighting back against the thugs, it simply will not matter. If retaliation is a problem, the government should make sure the population is either protected or armed.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 10:02 AM
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5. Arm the women and girls and teach them how to shoot.
They are the victims of the Taliban - of fundamentalists everywhere.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:30 PM
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9. I'm all for that
While I hold no fondness for our own fundies, they are not keeping girls from going to school by throwing acid in their faces and burning down the buildings. The Taliban, on the other hand, are monstrous and deserve a bazooka to the groin.
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 12:09 AM
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11. +1
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 07:22 AM
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12. Thats a stupid plan.Who is going to teach them to shoot ? Certainly not "The peace corps"
Knowledge is power,
spread the word

Marines try a woman's touch to reach Afghan hearts

KHAWJA JAMAL, Afghanistan – Put on body armor, check weapons, cover head and shoulders with a scarf.

That was the drill for female American Marines who set out on patrol this week with a mission to make friends with Afghan women in a war zone by showing respect for Muslim standards of modesty.

The all-female unit of 46 Marines is the military's latest innovation in its rivalry with the Taliban for the populace's loyalty. Afghan women are viewed as good intelligence sources, and more open to the basics of the military's hearts-and-minds effort — hygiene, education and an end to the violence.

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This Aug. 10, 2009 photo shows Marine Lt. Victoria Sherwood, of Woodbury, Conn., talking with 8-year-old Bibi Asha, right, and her grandmother, Nazu, while visiting the village of Khwaji Jamal with Golf Company, 2nd Batallion, 3rd Regiment of the 2nd MEB, 2nd MEF in the Helmand Province of Afghanistan. Sherwood is part of Female Engagement Team whose mission is to make contact with Afghan woman in villages where U.S. Marines regularly patrol.
(AP Photo/Julie Jacobson)


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090814/ap_on_re_as/as_afghan_woman_to_woman



dunno why the mods deleted this post on another thread.

Guess the ""Marines send in an Amazon brigade" wasn't worth viewing as a sensible way to win hearts and minds....or selling out the righteous ones.



According to many posters, the Taliban hold the moral high ground over those backwater people.




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laststeamtrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 01:15 PM
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6. Was it at a town hall meeting? n/t.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 01:17 PM
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7. I am not surprised. The Taliban are despised. I expect more of this.
I suspect that this is just the beginning.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 02:15 PM
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8. Is everybody taking this at face value?
It seems just as likely to have been extrajudicial executions by the military. And the military shrugs its shoulders and says maybe the civilians did it. Yeah, right.
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-18-09 07:05 PM
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10. Well, there is the other "prediction" story out there with six weeks left on the clock
give or take a couple of weeks;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=3818603&mesg_id=3818603

The ISI is on notice. I wonder who will be collecting the bounty rewards on these freedom fighters
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-19-09 01:37 PM
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13. More overdramatized predictions of doom.
Isn't Mexico supposed to be collapsing right now, too?
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 08:53 AM
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14. Russians said the US economy was due to collapse in August or this past July
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