Elizabeth Edwards wants love child DNA tested

Source: MSNBC/People

Wife of former Sen. John Edwards says she hopes it can be done quietly


Amid several unconfirmed reports that her husband, former Sen. John Edwards, is nearing an announcement about the paternity of his former mistress's 18-month-old baby, Elizabeth Edwards says she expects a DNA test will take place — and hopes it can be done quietly.

During a Wednesday night appearance with CNN's Larry King to debate health-care reform, Mrs. Edwards, 60, was asked about DNA testing of Rielle Hunter's baby daughter, Frances.

"My expectation is that, at some point, something happens," she replied. "And I hope for the sake of this child that it happens, you know, in a quiet way."

All's quiet, too, at her house, Edwards said. Despite a supermarket tabloid cover story this week that claims she recently packed her bags in a fit of rage over her husband's alleged decision to move Hunter and the child into a home near his North Carolina beach house, Elizabeth Edwards, mother to two school-aged children, told King: "Things are going fine. We're getting the children ready for a new school year. Everything seems to be going pretty smoothly at my house."

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On the bright side, maybe we'll stop hearing about MJ for thirty seconds.

but I've always found it pretty significant that the person who doesn't want the testing done is Hunter.

DNA testing is not invasive and causes no pain. The only objection could be that Edwards could just as easily not be the father and she'd lose her grip.

My sympathy is for the Edwards family, all of them, and to the baby.

My sympathy is to the entire Edwards family, except him. The fact that there is any question - and even EE wouldn't rule it out - means JRE was with Hunter a few months after the awful diagnosis EE got. It is inexcusable that he could have been unfaithful at such a time.

Rielle is just "waiting" for Elizabeth to die so John can marry her. So she thinks.

Can you imagine how angry she will be when JRE does not marry her?

Not every woman lives her life in a soap opera, you know? Some women have sex because they want to, and don't expect the Knight to carry them off on his horse into the sunset at the end.

Maybe, just maybe, she was into it for the sex - which makes her either a hussy or human, depending on your world view.

or she would have used effective birth control. Of course, he's a dope for not using a rubber, but then he really doesn't give a crap about Elizabeth, anyway.

Sorry, but when there's a kid involved, the first thing we men think is that a woman's trying to trap a man.

So when did he tell you that he didn't give a crap about Elizabeth Edwards? If it was while you were in a men's room, did you get a look at his package? If so, please post details.

FUCK! Sometimes I hate Americans.

If she doesn't want the test, that could mean a lot of different things -- for one, it could be, and mind you, I have no facts, that the baby is his, but she doesn't want him to have time with the child. Maybe she wants his money but not his involvement in her life. Remember, that is just a possibility.

I assume that if any papers have been filed in a court they were filed in N.Carolina.

That could be because California courts make just about everything public record even in divorce cases.

DNA testing, because it would look pretty incriminating if he did it.

So they agreed that she would say no, and the publicity would die a natural death.

for a long time. Perhaps she has consented recently?

He has stated that the child isn't his, but this rings false, IMO.

It's not a big story here, in fact I think most stations ignore most of it.

It happens.

made his confession, he said he was not the father and would even be willing to take a DNA test. Assume Hunter knows for certain that he is the father and she wants to help him out wih his story. The way to do that is to refuse to take the test while he is saying he will.

suspect it is his.

I feel dirty to this day that I supported Edwards early in the primaries.

Can you imagine what would be happening now if he had been elected president? No matter how progressive he was, there's no way he could get anything passed. He'd essentially be a 3 1/2 year lame duck.

Sleazebag.

stupid to think he could get away with it in this day and age. Didn't he see what they did to Clinton?

Didn't he see what HE did to Clinton? :eyes:

because I've known too many really fine men who fucked up, literally as well as figuratively.

Yes, he was stupid, but at least he's not demonstrating Republican morals by abandoning his family to marry the whore.

but he's doing the right thing? :spray:

because they're all auditioning for trophy wife.

He's doing the right thing because he admits the possibility it's his kid.

I think he really needs to sue to get that DNA test done before he coughs up another dime, but apparently he really wants that kid to be his.

She wore mini-skirts and low-cut tops! No man can resist that! :eyes:

Remember Lewinsky wagging her thong clad ass at Clinton?

In addition, Edwards was at a low point, having lost a corrupt election to a moron who was wrecking the country.

I'm not saying the man didn't make an ass of himself. I'm saying he's not the only one who ever did and that blame certainly needs to be shared by a woman who knew he was a married man with children still at home.

She's contemptible.

Its like when a man doesn't wear protection, its the woman's fault. :eyes:

"Damn baby I know I've got a wife at home who is the mother of my children and is waging a difficult battle with cancer, but you're looking stupid fine tonight!"

Non sequitur much?

This sub-thread was rather jaw-dropping in its misogyny.

He denied the child -- that goes way beyond making an ass of himself.

He also stepped out on his wife and in the process brought discord to the house where his young children live. What a nice fellow.

I'm tired of the woman being blamed disproportionately when a married man cheats. SHE didn't make the commitment to his wife, he did.

I'm blaming both parties.

However, you do need to be aware that some of our sisters do target wealthy married men.

My thought EXACTLY!:applause:

We are all fools when it comes to sex. My only problem is that he ran for office knowing he had a monkey on his back with this woman.

Sorry.

FAIL.

Don't tell me - you are a guy!

Now, no reasonable married man would keep it in his pants after hearing such a thing.

And after all, she's the one who took vows, right?

:sarcasm:

Lots of lawyers spend most of their time in their offices. They work very, very long hours when they are young. And when they have a little time off, they spend it with their families. A lot of them seem socially quite polished -- until you know them better and you discover they have the mentalities of adolescents when it comes to things like sex and human relationships. To do well in law school, really well, you have to be fairly studious and even bookish.

I went to UNC Chapel Hill which has a fine law school. The ones who go to law school tend to be frat boys whose daddy's were lawyers. The excuses made for these men are unbelievable.

He was a boy who grew up in a small town, whose dad was a mill supervisor and earned a reasonable but not high salary and who through hard work and natural talent made his way in life competing with all those frat boy lawyers whose daddys were lawyers. Check your facts on John Edwards.

Not poor. Football star. Smooth talker. I wouldn't doubt he was a frat boy.

What was his family's income income and net worth? If you don't know those things, on what are you basing your claim that he was not poor?

UNC Chapel Hill to be exact. I am basing that on the post I responded to.

What people post as though it were gospel often amazes me.

wife is battling cancer, then running for president, risking the country on an October surprise or denying his kid?


no matter how naive he was, he knew all that was wrong. This is not a lots of homework issue. Plenty of people are a lot more naive than he is and very few people eff up THAT badly.

His narcissim and selfishness were he problem, not law school.

who can't say no and who never initiate affairs. :sarcasm:

Your thinking is totally warped.

:rofl:

While not wearing pants, and just so happened into her vagina, repeatedly. Clearly Edwards wasn't at fault at all, it was her fault for laying there also not wearing pants.

but I thought she slipped and he caught her fall.

:hide:

Clearly I'm not letting Edwards off the hook. The best I can call him is a damned fool.

However you do need to realize that some of our sisters do target wealthy married men. The job of trophy wife is a very cushy one.

Thank you.

I must admit, though, that I am truly amazed by how many of you there are on this board, people who have never made a single mistake in their entire lives that has hurt another person.

My dear, I am in awe.

It is that you blame her but not him! That is a stunning double standard.

The problem is the hypocrisy of those who make the rules without realizing that we are all vulnerable.

We marry in our 20s and then in some cases, suddenly in their late 40s and maybe inb their 50s, one or the other marital partner decides to choose adventure. Women spend huge sums to remodel their houses or get a facelift -- or just start eating until they are morbidly obese. It is called mid-life crisis. Once you survive it you look back and say --"Oh. So that's how we are." You watch your friends go through it. It's quite amazing.

In the 1970s, early 80s, I read a series of article in the Austrian newspaper, The Kronen Zeitung on the environment. Trees were dying in parts of middle Europe. In the final years as trees in the pine forests felt that their strength was waning, they began to produce large quantities of pine cones -- as if to insure that they would be replaced by new trees. I think it is perhaps a natural reaction to a sense that life is short to wish to struggle against the inevitable loss of power and strength that prepares us for death.

Dylan Thomas wrote about this instinct to fight to the enc.

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

. . . .

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her recurrence of cancer, his running for the Presidency, knowing he might deliver it to the Republicans and his denying his child. He's a lowlife, not merely an ordinary adulterer.


While all are vulerable, not all succumb. Having an urge does not mandate succumbing to it. Many don't. Nor does having an urge give anyone a free pass.

Character, discipline, allegiance to one's vows, putting duy and someone else's pain ahead of your gratification and many other things come into play. I cannot say that those things are ireelevant to the Presidecy, although I know that many think an affair is none of the business of the electorate.

Some say, "I succumbed, so I can't say anything." Wrong. You can say you did wrong and so did he. you just don't get to say that he was wrong, but your case was different, so you're excused. And you don't get to say that neither he nor you did wrong.

their minds. Maybe some women use men but some men use them too.

I've seen married men date absolute SKANKS compared to their wives. And it isn't that uncommon.

:rofl:

Reminds me of a BIL who hired a real estate agent to open a new office in his business in another state who then proceeded to get her pregnant (she said she "couldn't" have a baby).

Why are men so gullible?

Wasn't her hook that she was a filmmaker who wanted to do a story on him?

I've also never understood why men wouldn't protect themselves from 18 years of financial liability by insisting on wearing condoms, never mind protecting themselves and the wife from gawd knows what diseases.

There are a lot of reasons I live with a cat.

300 grand of child support, and when his legal three kids found out they were crushed. And of course he DID NOT leave his wife for her, he had no intention of ever doing so. He just wanted a piece of you know what, not a kid and all this attachment. Isn't it hilarious how fast men run when a mistress starts acting like a wife?

Grow up guys. Get a clue, will you? (And some women out there too)

And it's none of my business but, if I were to be indulged, my only regret would be how this particular tango has brought such unnecessary hardship into the life of a woman I admire very much.

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Who is in the position of power here? Who is the one with responsibility to his wife and family and marriage vow? John was perfectly capable of saying no and not hiring her to pretty much stalk him with the video camera.

I've been around far too many politicians and people in positions of power to believe that John was a victim of this woman. Maybe he's into going after vulnerable woman who he thinks won't cause any problems.

If he had only slept with her once, I could have gone with the 'he's only human' angle. But he went back for more and more. It sounds like he has had a love affair with her, something far more hurtful than just going out for sex.

If his wife did not have terminal cancer, I would say, well that's just the breaks, sometimes marriages get destroyed by stupid stuff like this.

But she was/is DYING, and it makes me sick to think of her suffering from what her husband did to her at the very time in her life that she needs his love and devotion.

piously condemn other men for fucking around and fuck around themselves are simply scumbuckets. Men who sactimoniously proclaim they can't support marriage equality because of their own holy marriage while they're secretly fucking around are slimeballs. That's JE. He's nothing but a lying piece of opportunistic shit who's record in the senate was blue dog suckass lousy.

That is what I call stinkin' thinkin'.

not sure Whore is inappropriate.

with other women before he got careless?

Time to drop the double standard.

Moral character is what you do when no one's looking. Not what you demonstrate afterward, when everyone can see.

I know men have, but i meant the ones you know. And were their wives in the middle of a recurrence of cancer

IMO, this is well beyond the garden variety adultery.

You supported a person, whose narrative you agreed with. Even many people who, for other reasons, did not support Edwards, really did not see this coming.

I agree that it would have been a mess had he become President, but the fact is that was never going to happen. The first reason is that, even with media attention in 2005 and 2006, he was pretty obviously number 3 in 2007 with very little chance to move up. He had a near impossible path, that demanded he not only win Iowa, but win big. One thing people are missing is that he never was the front runner and never underwent the scrutiny a front runner gets.

The National Enquirer had already printed the rumors naming Hunter in 2006. Do you seriously think that both the Clinton and Obama campaigns would not have themselves looked into this? Clinton people looked at a kindergarten essay Obama wrote! Do you think the obviously pregnant rumored to be lover of Edwards would have been ignored by the media if he were the front runner?

Hullo Prezdint Palin (after McCain lasts six months or something)

Just the thought is how far We have fallen as a transparent representitive Democracy. Heck, our Nation because of vested interests has made a mockery of capitalism while practicing an ever more international/global elite oligarchy. Income and wealth and politcal power allocation is extreme and is the heart of all fixes.

Too many folks along the chain are clueless, too comfortable, or simply to not bother their beautiful or various stages of troubled minds.

The USA has trended in my ever larger life into territory never expected muich less imagined (and I liked science fiction as a young adult and was at Ground Zero politically in late teens and early 20s).

I supported Edwards or at least his rhetoric but gave $ to Obama and voted for Obama in State (Edwards had dropped out by then)and General Elections.

I feel for the Edwards family, so sad for all.

As for his sex life, it is his business. These things happen much more frequently than anyone would believe. And they always have.

The divorce rate in the U.S. is extremely high. And one of the reasons for that is that we take our marriage vows very seriously and expect "faithfulness" or monogamy. Unfortunately human nature is not always monogamous. In fact, those of us who marry young and stay acceptably happy the rest of our lives are the exception. Judge not that ye be not judged.

You would be surprised at what goes on behind closed doors.

about either President McCain or President Palin. he would never have been elected.

She might as well have blown a horn in everyone's living room across the country. Ridiculous.

This, regrettably, reminds me of how done I am not only with John Edwards, but with Elizabeth Edwards as well. I have nothing but sympathy for her recovery from illness and wish her the best from a personal standpoint . . . but the fact remains that both she AND JE were stupid enough to think that they could endure the media scrutiny of running for president and cover up the whole Hunter affair. Wow.

However, I'm nevertheless glad that she's advocating for health reform.

to make an announcemtn about paternity. Tabloids are saying the test has already been done and he is the father.

Someone probably asked Elizabeth whether Edwards is going to take a test and Elizabeth answered. Either way, this is out long after the story.

It's somewhat ridiculous to go on a national talk show and talk about something that, in the same appearance, you say you want to be kept quiet.

But I don't think much of John & Elizabeth's political skills, so I'm not surprised. :shrug:

After all, we want it to be quiet.

life is normal with a huge pink elephant in the living room

"My expectation is that, at some point, something happens," she replied. "And I hope for the sake of this child that it happens, you know, in a quiet way."

All's quiet, too, at her house, Edwards said. Despite a supermarket tabloid cover story this week that claims she recently packed her bags in a fit of rage over her husband's alleged decision to move Hunter and the child into a home near his North Carolina beach house, Elizabeth Edwards, mother to two school-aged children, told King: "Things are going fine. We're getting the children ready for a new school year. Everything seems to be going pretty smoothly at my house."

So very sad. At a time when all emotional and mental strength should be channeled toward recovery, there is this negative karma in the mix where all that energy is focused on maintaining normalcy not only in the face of illness(where a portion of the energy should be channeled) but also in the face of infidelity.

later.....

'My expectation is that, at some point, something happens,' she replied. 'And I hope for the sake of this child that it happens, you know, in a quiet way.'

You know, like in the presence of reporters for People magazine. :eyes:

Something to ponder.

Everyone else including the child could be blabbering on about it, but if somebody in the mix wants to keep it quiet they aren't helping that goal by joining in the chorus.

When Oprah interviewed her, she (Elizabeth) said she did not care about the kid's paternity, that it did not affect her or her life. Maybe it affected John's life.

I am fairly certaiin I recall reading that Rielle asked for the test. All I see Eliabeth saying is that she believes the test will happen "at some point." That's different from saying "I really want to see a DNA test."

in North Carolina to be close to Daddy.

I know, it's just tabloid gossip ~ like the DNA and the Baby .

Elizabeth just hasn't suffered enough. Now her husband has to rub her nose in it on a regular basis.

I hope the Enquirer is wrong on this one ~ that would be cruel to say the least.

If you're going to cheat, use protection. Kennedy was suave about it!

I think she's been dragging this stuff out that we didn't need to know about.

I think it's fine that she moved out on him for being a scumbag.