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Purveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:41 PM
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In Hot Water: World's Ocean Temps Warmest Recorded
Source: Associated Press

(08-20) 11:00 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --

The world's oceans this summer are the warmest on record.

The National Climatic Data Center, the government agency that keeps weather records, says the average global ocean temperature in July was 62.6 degrees. That's the hottest since record-keeping began in 1880. The previous record was set in 1998.

Meteorologists blame a combination of a natural El Nino weather pattern on top of worsening manmade global warming. The warmer water could add to the melting of sea ice and possibly strengthen some hurricanes.

The result has meant lots of swimming at beaches in Maine with pleasant 72-degree water. Ocean temperatures reached 88 degrees as far north as Ocean City, Md., this week.

The Gulf of Mexico, where warm water fuels hurricanes, has temperatures dancing around 90. Most of the water in the Northern Hemisphere has been considerably warmer than normal. The Mediterranean is about three degrees warmer than normal. Higher temperatures rule in the Pacific and Indian Oceans.

It's most noticeable near the Arctic, where water temperatures are as much as 10 degrees above average.


Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/08/20/national/a101659D19.DTL#ixzz0OkZ6WJy0
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:56 PM
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1. yay!
:sarcasm:

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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:23 PM
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2. This is so sad
I believe in global warming, but I wonder if it's just bad timing for us. I know man has fucked this planet up, but it just might be something that would have happened no matter what we did. Extinction happened to the Dinosaurs it can happen to us.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:37 PM
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3. It WILL happen to us
I hope there is reincarnation, as I would like to come back in another 70 million years and see what we get replaced by.
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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 04:47 PM
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14. I always thought if there was reincarnation
I would like to come back as an Eagle in the middle of the Grand Canyon without ever seeing man.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 05:04 PM
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15. Watch out!
There's a sight-seeing helicopter on your tail!!
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:45 PM
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9. The Dinosaurs were actually quite successful, lasting for tens millions of years,
they couldn't adapt to changing conditions but they didn't actively work to destroy their habitat either.

We don't have either excuse, we are capable of adapting and we're definitely contributing to the Earth's natural cycles speeding up and causing more extremes in climate variations.

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Politicalboi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 04:45 PM
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13. Yes we are better equipped to adapting
Maybe that was our downfall. And we had 40 years to see this coming. Yet we still did nothing. And we still have non believers of global warming.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:06 PM
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29. They certainly were. Plus, there is an irony that even dead, the dinosaurs are conquering us.
n/t
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 03:56 PM
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30. Good point, I never thought of it that way.
Edited on Fri Aug-21-09 03:58 PM by Uncle Joe
We,re burning dead dinosaurs and pumping the remains in to the atmosphere; a cosmic global Jurassic Park.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:45 PM
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4. that means stronger hurricanes
among other consequences
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:07 PM
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5. "We will adapt" -- George W. Bush
Asshole
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:24 PM
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6. Sure we'll adapt
The few humans who survive will be forced to live in areas that are now considered largely uninhabitable. Antarctica will be the new tropics. Of course, sea levels will rise several meters, and what's left of the currently inhabited areas will largely be under water.
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:38 PM
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8. Bad News for Costner haters (not me). Waterworld will become reality.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:35 PM
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7. Adaptable Asshole - Sounds like a band name...
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:50 PM
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11. Santorum adaptorum
Santorum is Latin for asshole, isn't it?
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digidigido Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 04:13 PM
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12. actually it's Italian for asshole
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Bearware Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 03:48 PM
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10. They might get some world class surfing early next week when Bill wanders by
On second thought maybe instead of surfing planks they should start looking into plywood sheets and high ground. :scared:

I wonder what the Mt. Washington weather will be like if Bill comes close.:wow:

It might be a good time to hike the Appalachian trail.

The only good I can see coming out of this is enough people may finally wake up and start to go after the corporations standing in the way of doing anything about climate change. If we can't get a health care public option maybe we can force a "compromise" to just let people buy in to medicare. :evilgrin: While the torches and pitchforks are still out we can then look to the coal and oil companies in a month or so. :grr:
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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 06:02 PM
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16. This ocean warming will not be reversible easily

Breaking heat records in water is more ominous as a sign of global warming than breaking temperature marks on land, because water takes longer to heat up and does not cool off as easily as land.
"This warm water we're seeing doesn't just disappear next year; it'll be around for a long time," said climate scientist Andrew Weaver of the University of Victoria in British Columbia. It takes five times more energy to warm water than land.
The warmer water "affects weather on the land," Weaver said. "This is another yet really important indicator of the change that's occurring."
Georgia Institute of Technology atmospheric science professor Judith Curry said water is warming in more places than usual, something that has not been seen in more than 50 years.

In hot water: World sets ocean temperature record
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 09:05 PM
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17. Now everybody think about 24 hour sun in the Artic
when the ice is all melted

We are so screwed
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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18. In hot water: World sets ocean temperature record
Source: Associated Press

In hot water: World sets ocean temperature record


WASHINGTON – Steve Kramer spent an hour and a half swimming in the ocean Sunday — in Maine. The water temperature was 72 degrees — more like Ocean City, Md., this time of year. And Ocean City's water temp hit 88 degrees this week, toasty even by Miami Beach standards.

Kramer, 26, who lives in the seaside town of Scarborough, said it was the first time he's ever swam so long in Maine's coastal waters. "Usually, you're in five minutes and you're out," he said.

It's not just the ocean off the Northeast coast that is super-warm this summer. July was the hottest the world's oceans have been in almost 130 years of record-keeping.

The average water temperature worldwide was 62.6 degrees, according to the National Climatic Data Center, the branch of the U.S. government that keeps world weather records. That was 1.1 degree higher than the 20th century average, and beat the previous high set in 1998 by a couple hundredths of a degree. The coolest recorded ocean temperature was 59.3 degrees in December 1909.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090820/ap_on_sc/us_sci_warm_oceans
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Sandrine for you Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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19. That//,s hot !! nt
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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20. there is only one tick left on the ticking climate change clock so


we better get down to business.

get the health reform bill that covers everybody passed PDQ so we can work on stopping climate change.

I know its like stopping a speeding bullet but we have to try.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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23. We've been hitting the snooze for years. Do you expect that to change? nt
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:51 PM
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26. Most of the public really still doesn't understand the true threat of Global Warming . . .
And it should remain "Global Warming" btw because it makes clear this is about

HEAT -- not about any incidental or coincidental or normal "climate change."

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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21. I knew ocean waters were warming but this is amazing
Maine's coastline has always been pretty cold.
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EmilyIverson Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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22. I am glad
that the ocean is warming up. It was the coldest July ever recorded for the state of Connecticut. At least the fish are having a summer.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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24. Bit more complicated than that, the oceans are dying. Heat adds a stressor to an already vulnerable
system. Welcome to DU!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:54 PM
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27. "Song for the Blue Ocean" by Safina ----
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 04:57 PM
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31. Wow, thanks for that link. nt
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 12:42 PM
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25. The fish are not "having a nice summer."
In oceans that are already straining from a lack of dissolved gases in them warming thme up reduces a liquid's ability to store dissolved oxygen and Co2 needed to sustain oceanic life.

So basically these gasses are passed into the atmosphere and dead spots increase. Most of the population relies on the oceans either directly or indirectly so warming oceans could be a very very bad thing.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 06:18 PM
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32. Google "ocean acidification" and see if that sounds like fun for aquatic life
So much of the CO2 we've released into the atmosphere is being absorbed by the oceans and converted to carbonic acid that some species of sealife may not be able to grow shells anymore. That includes zooplankton, the foundation for the oceanic food chain.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-23-09 05:46 AM
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34. So nice to have smart people contributing their intelligent thoughts on DU!
I look forward to more of your brilliant nuggets of wisdom. :hi: Welcome to DU!
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-21-09 02:58 PM
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28. I was in Maine last week...
where the hell was the 72-degree water?
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