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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:28 PM
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Competition lacking among private health insurers
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 01:30 PM by Stephanie
Source: Associated Press

Competition lacking among private health insurers
By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR, Associated Press Writer
Sat Aug 22, 9:45 am ET

WASHINGTON – One of the most widely accepted arguments against a government medical plan for the middle class is that it would quash competition — just what private insurers seem to be doing themselves in many parts of the U.S.

Several studies show that in lots of places, one or two companies dominate the market. Critics say monopolistic conditions drive up premiums paid by employers and individuals.

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Wellpoint Inc. accounted for 71 percent of the Maine market, while runner-up Aetna had a 12 percent share, according to a 2008 report by the American Medical Association.

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Congressional investigators this year looked at insurers catering to small employers around the country. The Government Accountability Office found that the median — or midpoint — market share of largest carrier increased to 47 percent in 2008 from 33 percent in 2002.


Read more: Yahoo News



The article cites a study by the Urban Institute that estimates "a public plan could save taxpayers from $224 billion to $400 billion over 10 years." The president of the AMA is quoted as saying, "The fear and concern is that the public plan could become the market-dominant plan."

The problem with these free-marketeers is that they hate competition.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:29 PM
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1. They hate it only when THEY become affected. Until then, everyone else is free market...
with themselves being socialist, pardon my bad grammar...
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:41 PM
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2. There is a fierce competition in that industry...
to see who can return the greatest profit to their investors and provide the least service to their customers. So have to ask, what is their real product? I see them as wealth redistribution companies that remove money from businesses, middle-class, and the poor and redistribute it to the affluent and wealthy investor class.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 01:47 PM
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3. Latest Breaking News
In other late breaking news, fears of Y2K have proven to be exaggerated.
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joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:01 PM
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4. The WH has been slow in pushing this very imp. point.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:19 PM
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5. It is a total joke to be even talking about the Health Insurance Industry. A total joke.
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:25 PM
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6. Remember "anti-trust" laws?
Those were the days, huh?
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pattmarty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 02:49 PM
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7. Yeah, and funny the laws are still "on the books" and not used.
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tooeyeten Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 05:52 PM
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12. banks,insurance companies
robbing us blind.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 03:27 PM
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8. The AP article misses the point, health coverage shouldn't be a commodity allowing
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 03:28 PM by Uncle Joe
legalized gamblers; having nothing to do with actual health care to profit on, competition or not.

The for profit "health" coverage system; at it's very best is immoral, dysfunctional and inefficient, the fact that's it's monopolistic only makes an evil situation worse.

Any so called progress; made by attempting to create competition under a for profit mode without changing the fundamental, dysfunctional structure of coverage ie; universal single payer coverage from the cradle to the grave, will be illusory and very temporary in duration.

It is not the job of the U.S. Government's to reward for profit insurance corporations for their long running abuse of the American People, put the insurance corporations out of their's and the American Peoples' misery.

Thanks for the thread, Stephanie.
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Old Codger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 03:54 PM
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9. Where I live
I have medicare but the only one who sells supplement policies here is blue cross, no other options for what they laughingly call "medigap" policies, after I dropped them and started getting my bills sent to me I found that I really pay less now that when I had the supplement.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:19 PM
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10. "There is never be competition among the insurance companies because they're IMMUNE"
There is never be competition among the insurance companies because they're IMMUNE


Why are we even having this phony debate?


Big Insurance's Competition Immunity


The Sunday morning political talk programs were filled to the brim with health care reform discussions, and central to these discussions is the idea that the insurance industry needs competition. Competition, in the form of a public option or in health care cooperatives, is supposed to level the playing field and bring down premiums for all Americans while providing as close to universal coverage as we can do right now.

There's just one itty bitty, teeny weeny problem. The insurance industry has federal IMMUNITY from competition!

The federal government has not been able to attack the insurance companies through federal anti-trust laws for over 60 years. Under the McCarran-Ferguson Act passed in 1945, insurance companies (and Major League Baseball!) are specifically excluded from federal anti-trust laws as long as the state regulates in that area, and federal anti-trust laws will apply ONLY in cases of boycott, coercion, and intimidation.

Under the McCarran-Ferguson Act, Big Insurance is allowed to collect and SHARE data with each other about claims. With this information, Big Insurance can fix prices, set coverage requirements, outline conditions for coverage denials (like pre-existing conditions), and many, many more.

That's right, folks! Big Insurance can plot together to bring us all down!

http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/8/17/21730/8042

If we don't get a public option everybody can escape into we will all be raped to death.

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 04:22 PM
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11. Ya think?
What ever happened to the free market, to make private companies afraid of competition?
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NikolaC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 06:15 PM
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13. Huh
Another bit of "No Shit Sherlock" news coming out of the M$M this week. They have really had a knack for reporting the obvious and old news this week.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 07:13 PM
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14. Collusion
Edited on Sat Aug-22-09 07:14 PM by liberal N proud
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steven johnson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-22-09 10:06 PM
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15. In other words healthcare insurance companies have had a near monopoly for years
The pro-business Bush Administration has had an antiregulatory, anti anti trust policy for years allowing monopolies to develop unchallanged.



April 18, 2006
Health insurance is nearing monopoly status in most markets, driving up the cost of insurance, reducing innovation in health care and squeezing doctors and hospitals, an American Medical Association (AMA) report finds.

"The remarkable reduction in the number of competing health plans is troubling for doctors and patients, as competition drives innovation and efficiency in the health care system," said AMA Board Member J. James Rohack, M.D. "Most alarmingly, in the combined HMO and PPO markets, 95 percent of metropolitan areas have few competing health insurers."

In addition, the study found that in 95 percent of markets, a single insurer had a market share of 30 percent or greater, and in 56 percent of the markets, a single insurer had a market share of 50 percent or greater.

The AMA report, Competition in Health Insurance: A Comprehensive Study of U.S. Markets, analyzed 294 metropolitan health insurance markets against an index used by federal regulators for measuring market concentration. According to the federal index, markets that are highly concentrated have few competing health insurers.




Health Insurance A Near-Monopoly, Study Finds

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