Baucus does not represent his state, say Montanans

Source: DailyKos/Flathead Beacon

A poll conducted by the liberal blog Daily Kos is making rounds on the Web and being used to persuade Montana’s Democratic Sen. Max Baucus, chair of the Senate Finance Committee, to support a public option when crafting health care reform legislation. Kos hired Research 2000 to poll Montanans about their view of Baucus’ actions on health care reform thus far. I doubt our senior senator likes its findings:

Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Max Baucus’ actions on health care?

All: 42% Approve; 44% Disapprove; 14% Not Sure
Dem: 34% Approve; 55% Disapprove; 11% Not Sure
Rep: 49% Approve; 38% Disapprove; 13% Not Sure
Ind : 41% Approve; 42% Disapprove; 17% Not Sure

Do you favor or oppose creating a new public health insurance plan that anyone can purchase?

All: 47% Favor; 43% Oppose; 10% Not Sure
Dem: 78% Favor; 15% Oppose; 7% Not Sure
Rep: 23% Favor; 66% Oppose; 11% Not Sure
Ind : 48% Favor; 41% Oppose; 11% Not Sure

Entire poll results: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/21/770592/-Baucus-does-not-represent-his-state,-say-Montanans

Read more: http://www.flatheadbeacon.com/articles/article/poll_montanans_favor_public_option_unhappy_with_baucus/12597/

Ultimately, we can not equal the pockets of the Health Care Ponzi companies.

Just add an "(R)" after his name.

People are chasing him with You Tubes, and lefties want to throw him in a fire dog lake. I sure wouldn't want to be that guy.

One of Grassley's staffers just said he thinks it's one of them lakes that's so polluted they catch on fire! And there's wild dogs roaming around it, so if you jump out and escape drowning or burning to death, the dogs tear you to pieces! Holy hell, I guess Grassley's right! Them libruls is merciless killers! -- Max Baucus

he'll do just fine. He'll probably get re-elected because Democrats will vote for him because he has a D after his name and because we are not active enough pre-primary; and Republicans will vote for him because he is one of them. And, he'll get even richer. Besides, who knows where his wife and kids work or what boards they sit on?

Our hope lies in in joining our state parties in droves and getting active in choosing the primary candidate, then working like hell for him or her. We may still have a chance, but the Washington gravy train has pulled the entire country toward the right, be it toward DINO or RINO. That's where the play is these days, not in the Democratic base or the Republican base.

However, as some wise poster here noted, if you poll on principles and concepts, the country goes left. There should be some way we can take advantage of that, but we haven't seemed to figure it out yet.

the insurance and pharm money back?

He's in his 70's. You're talking about a guy who doesn't have to worry about what the voters think.

IN the healthcare industry.

We've seen this before.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,

And to the Republicrats for which it stands.

One party, under God, indivisble

Forever and ever. Amen.



(BTW, the flagmakers' lobby probably got Congress to adopt that pledge, else why do our kids pledge allegiance every day to a piece of cloth, rather than to our/their country? And, does proposing a re-design of the flag break the pledge? DUMB.)

All you need to know.

What percentage of Montanans are Dems and how many are Repugs?

I mean if Repugs are like.... a random number here because I have no idea... Repugs are 50% of Montana's population, and 49% of that 50% approve... that's less than 25% of the whole population and not a big number. 66% of 50% also ain't a lot of people not wanting health care reform.

I ask because 66% sounds like a lot...but a lot of what? A lot of some minority?

I wonder what the real numbers to my query are.

Numbers are not as easy for me to get. Geometry is easy for me. I need a pie chart!

According to wikipedia, in its entire history, the state has gone 60/40 in favor of democratic governors, and 40/60 against democratic presidents. And the current house is apparently 50 democrats and 50 republicans.

so.. what do you do with that? Me, I dunno. I suspect that a lot of Montanans consider themselves Independents, no matter their actual politics. Triangulating from the numbers the give for the total average, as compared to the R/D/I numbers, they must have something around 37% I, 37% R, and 25% D for their sampling size, though who knows what they are basing that on. That's a rough estimate, but math says that their R sample is significantly larger than the D sample given its greater influence on the totals. Which, given their split house, democratic Gov and 2 senators, and the fact that McCain only won by 2%, seems somewhat unjustified. Which means that the real numbers are likely even uglier for Baucus.

Daily Kos poll.

Another relevant issue: How many Republicans responded, how many Democrats and how many unenrolled?

At bottom, the information is not one bit useful.

the interests which decided years ago it was easier to buy whores in small states and install them in Houses great and small in Washington DC to do their every bidding.

the wingnuts

No offense to Montanans but...

Why are these huge unpopulated states, that are usually helped a lot financially by us populated coastal states, allowed to hold things up????

As Rachel Maddow pointed out, Why is this completely arbitrary "Gang of Six" deciding things instead of the whole commitee.... when the American People overwhelmingly elected Dems? If you're gonna have a Gang of Six , how about it reflect the election... like 5 Dems and one Repug.

going to mean something. He does not speak for the majority even in his own state.

public plan, the majority of the rest of the country is far more in favor. These politicians are chicken shits afraid of who screams the loudest while at the same time trying to get bought by the insurance lobby.

:beer:

That was in the 70's. Just shows you anyone can be bought out.

the one with the brains and did a lot to help him get to the U.S. Senate. Max was a very photogenic candidate.
Max has had a bad couple of years personally. He and his second wife earlier this year announced that they are divorcing after 25 years of marriage.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/09/montana-senator-max-baucu_n_185441.html

Actually, I guess he must have already been in the House at that time - I'm remembering late seventies. I did see him at the Capitol in Helena but he couldn't have been in the Legislature at the time.

But he was one of those who was a delegate to the State Constitutional Convention and thus very active in the redrafting of the State constitution in the early seventies, along with Dorothy Bradlee of Bozeman, one who I am sorry never caught on enough to have a more well-known political career. As a result of the redrafting, Montana had ... for a time at least ... one of the most liberal state constitutions in the US. I haven't kept track of exactly what's happened since, having not resided there since then.
Max's reputation as a "liberal" dates from those days, but he has changed a lot since then, IMO.

Who used to have wild election night parties, with a keg on the back porch. :)

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not D-Montana.

F'n money power grubbing douchebag is a god damned repuke.

him re-elected if he wants to campaign again.