McCain: Obama must drop health care public option

Source: AP

WASHINGTON – Sen. John McCain says President Barack Obama will have to drop proposals for a government-run health insurance option if he hopes to reach congressional agreement on health-care reform.

McCain says many Americans are losing confidence in Obama partly because of concerns about the so-called public option. The Arizona Republican proposed that Obama meet with members of both parties in Congress to find areas of agreement, abandon the public option, and then make clear exactly what he wants in the legislation.

McCain said that right now Obama is simply leaving it to Congress to decide the details and that isn't enough. He maintains that Republicans are willing to sit down with the president and talk about various reforms.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090823/ap_on_go_co/us_mccain_public_option

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This from a kept man.

including all of his mistresses and kids.

He shows no concern for any one less fortunate than himself

What a pompous ass

:eyes:

"He maintains that Republicans are willing to sit down with the president and talk about various reforms."

Highly doubtful. They want the Dems to fail at this, period.

Logically speaking, that would follow.

Most people who don't have insurance couldn't afford to spend $3,000 to buy insurance in the 1st place never mind that the average health insurance plan costs $12,000. So the person would have to fork out $12,000 for the premium and then about $3,000 in out-of-pocket expenses and co-payments if he actually got sick.

So a single person making $25,000 is going to shell out $15,000 dollars for health care just to get $3,000 tax credit on $19,550 of income after standard deductions? That income requires them to pay $2,304 in taxes which will have been withheld from their paycheck. So with the credit, they will get a full refund of the money taken out of the check. So instead of getting $3,000 to pay for their health insurance, they will get $2,304. So this single person will have to pay $12,696 for their health care.

The remaining $12,304 of their check will go for state taxes, federal Social Security and FICA taxes, room and board, transportation, food and other necessities.

Wow John, what a deal! These guys are truly a joke.

Such as, tax cuts for the rich. And then there's tax cuts for the rich, and tax cuts for the rich, too.
Republicans are a one-trick pony.

McCain LOST.

McCain has had the benefits of a Single Payer health care ever since he was born at a military hospital in Panama.

I don't remember the media asking Dukakis his opinion on everything

One of many, many "big lies" Republicans tell that get believed.

Loser. Loser. Old fart obstructionist poor LOSER.

:hi:

OMG... I'm an old fart, too.

But... I never never yell at anyone to get off my lawn.

tee hee

McCain has had the benefits of a Single Payer health care ever since he was born at a military hospital in Panama.

to recognize his being born-into-free-healthcare-and-education advantage. Or to understand that his wife is a Stepford clone. Miracle of modern biology. His massive hypocrisy reflects a genetic marker of nearly all republican'ts. Anti-humanity, one and all, they are.
John McCain? :puke:

HaHa!

"thinks." Didn't he lose ALL credibility last year when he picked Palin?

McCain has no idea what he is talking about, even after decades in the Senate.

I find it funny that he is so stupid especially during the election the pundits were going how Obama was inexperienced while McCain was the one with experience. I guess sometimes experience wisdom doesn't come with experience.

He was so out of credibility that Palin gave him a bounce. However, he continues to lose credibility as he continues to defend choosing her, even after she didn't save his sorry ass in the election. And as he defends her death panel statement, and tries to make it seem rational, as he did with George Steph this morning.

Honestly, the more I think about Republicans, the madder I get.

*sigh*...Go to bed, old man.

McCain said "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation." (Sept. 2008 in Contingencies)

But hey, that's just a thought. Republicans are willing to sit down and lie. President Obama
they will smile in your face but they are backstabbers.



I get:mad:when you listen to the sly, slick and wicked.

He's just FULL of them!

terview him.

so, why is this shitbag talking?

STFU John - you're a LOSER and we don't want your opinion - you are supposed to represent a State - not a nation - and you are doing a pisspoor job of that.

You lost, shut up!

You lost.

...I am working to drop Carpet Bagger, deather, birther, McSame from Arizona....

from his cradle to his grave! Arizona needs to rid itself of 2 bloodsucking leeches.

are crying that we shouldn't have the same thing.

Cut off THEIR health care during the recession for a federal cost cutting measure, why not?

If it's good enough for you Johnny motherfucker, why isn't it good enough for the rest of us?


PS: Johnny motherfucker got SOCIALIZED HEALTH CARE at birth!

gratitude.

:grouphug:

:hi:

I guess they're just as anxious as the rump they represent to see that Obama "fails."

with some of THE trans-national economic Royalists on his opulent yacht in the South of France?

:sarcasm: Yep, this is the guy I want to tell me how to live! :puke:

edit: smilie ooops

Is a doddering old fool who can get bent. Seriously. I have no respect for that s.o.b and he needs stfu.

what other instructions does he have for the president to follow?

.... you get beat but you got a major ass kicking. Obama won and 77% of the American people want
health care reform w/ a public option too. You and the rest of the republicans are barking @ the moon
bat shit crazy.

After all, we pay for them.

.... government run health care provided for him. Hey he was a child of a career military man and
a wounded combat vet he has it coming but he really needs to shut up.


John McCain w/ out him the Keating 5 would have been the Keating 4.

team up with the DNC. Harry "Weak as Water" Reid and party leaders and kick the Blue Dogs in the re-election/committee assignment groin until they remember they're Democrats.

First of all the Repukes are not going to agree to anything, at least not on any broad basis. We might peel off a few moderate Republican like Collins and Snowe but there will not be any broad based support. I would guess that even if the Democrats gave trillions more away to the health care lobby in the form of direct cash payments the Republicans would be against it. They don't care about what is actually in the bill(s), they just want to be able to tell their ever-shrinking base that they were against it, whatever it was.

Second, I thought we had three key objectives with health care reform that even the blue dog (I prefer to call them "mongrels") Democrats originally agreed with:
(1) Increase the number of insured Americans (there have always been differences of whether this was to insure everyone or simply make a sizeable dent in the number of uninsured)
(2) Reform Health Care Insurance so that it is fair by eliminating lifetime caps, pre-existing condition rules, discontinuance of coverage due to age or illness and significant increases in premiums due to age or illness
(3) Reduce the cost of health care

Well it is difficult to achieve #3 if you don't deal with #1 in a more than substantial manner. All Americans need to be covered by health insurance so that the cost of delivering the services to the uninsured are not built back into the prices that providers charge health insurance companies. If everyone is covered you effectively spread risk across the entire populace and not just those that currently have health insurance.

I predict that without a public option to keep the insurance companies in check, all they will do is take the additional costs associated with #2 and roll them into new ever higher premiums for the insured. They will not take a haircut in terms of bonuses, lavish perks, etc. and they certainly won't ask investors to take a lower return on their investment.

A public option is needed to introduce competition into the marketplace. Without it we may see some marginal benefits in terms of lifetime caps, pre-existing conditions, etc. but it will come at a price paid for by employers and the insured.

Everytime I get frustrated with Obama (not often but it does happen) I imagine this nitwit in the Oval Office with Sarah Palin around the corner. Then I know the American people made the right decision in November.

Besides, he has bad judgement. He did pick Palin as his running mate.

On edit: he also proposed taxing existing health care benefits.

By a lot. Nobody care what you think.

Okay, other than the yearning to slap the shit out of this asshole...

If McLame is saying it - that means Obama should do the exact opposite! :rofl:

I am sick to death of all the idiots that have been on the news shos through this month. The only thing I can stand to watch is the Daily Show...and rachel & keith I can only take in small doses because the idiocy of it all is just too annoying. The RW is dead. let's get things passed without them... besides, if we elected our current pres with a landslide ...why do the LOSERS deserve to keep their microphones...? Especially when they are speaking nonsense and it is being spun as a majority viewpoint!?
The fucking M$M is really needing a mass overhaul or boycott or something - because I cannot stand that they keep giving pOS's like Lieberman, mccain , etc.. the soapbox to stand & spew from.

ack! i'm done

These GOPers know how to dissemble. The quickest way to kill an Obama presidency is for him to drop the public option. He will kill a massive element of his support, the ones who worked hardest for his initial election. I'll be gone.

They couldn't convince Jeb Bush to run and they were stuck with John-boy, whom the RNC consider a RINO. So they "vetted" an empty head VP hoping that if they did win the election, McCain would die mid-term and then empty head would be President and it would be just like Bush II. This carpet-bagging piece of crap just keeps cluelessly slaving with the party that doesn't give a shit about him anymore.

ASSHAT! NOBODY GIVES A CRAP WHAT YOU THINK, NOT EVEN YOUR OWN PARTY.

Keep 'em coming.

:puke:

:)

as a way of showing his solidarity with those poor little private health insurers? It would be like a hunger strike except McCain could actually put his health on the line for the sake of profit-making companies.

and hundreds could be insured! Sorry, I know that's simplistic and unhelpful but he is so infuriating and misguided. He and Lieberman really are heartless. Keep everyone in a state of submissiveness and desperation and we'll take whatever the corporate masters decide to "trickle down" to us. I can't stand their hypocrisy and ethical illness anymore.
All I can do is let Obama and my reps know how I feel.

math skills are lacking.

Please get over it, McCain.

:rofl:

The 2008 election is over--HE LOST!

it would have been in 2007, for like a hot minute while the media savaged that "joke" that John Kerry supposedly told. Remember, the one that ended his presidential aspirations for 2008?

Nobody cares what you think. Fuck off and get off the air already.

If we wanted McCain running the country we would've elected him instead.