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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:40 AM
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Top Bush Terrorism Adviser Admits CIA Docs Didn’t Prove Torture Worked
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 09:42 AM by kpete
Source: The Plum Line

Top Bush Terrorism Adviser Admits CIA Docs Didn’t Prove Torture Worked

Okay, this should settle it, but of course it won’t: We now have a former homeland security official under George W. Bush who has contradicted the claim by conservatives that the CIA docs released yesterday proved torture worked, as Dick Cheney said they would.

Frances Fragos Townsend, a homeland security adviser and close confidante of Bush on terrorism, made the admission late last night on CNN, where she’s a contributor. Here’s her quote (from Nexis):

*** It’s very difficult to draw a cause and effect, because it’s not clear when techniques were applied vs. when that information was received. It’s implicit. It seems, when you read the report, that we got the — the — the most critical information after techniques had been applied. But the report doesn’t say that.

Cheney defenders have grabbed onto the idea that the docs imply torture worked with the urgency of a drowning person clinging to driftwood. But let’s be clear: Cheney said repeatedly that the CIA docs would settle the question. And even a top terror adviser in his administration is now admitting that this isn’t the case.


Read more: http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/torture/top-bush-terrorism-adviser-admits-cia-docs-didnt-prove-torture-worked/
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:56 AM
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1. But Darth doesn't want you to say things like that!
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:57 AM
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2. funny, because we never needed to prove it doesn't work... we already knew it
from history. Well, "we" as in the moderately informed.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 10:15 AM
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3. K&R. I agree and was glad to see that point reviewed with care
by Alison Stewart on the Rachel Maddow show.

They showed Cheney clips and then reviewed the careful change of language they used to obscure the fact that the useful information was obtained before torture was used.

Something like useful information was obtained from those who were subjected to the harsh interrogation techniques. Just never mind that we got the stuff we needed using professional interrogators before things were turned over to privatized brand new interrogators who broke international laws.

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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 11:19 AM
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4. Wasn't Frances a spokesmodel...errr...spokesman for the DoD?
Dana Perino-esque.
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