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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:32 PM
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Physicians' Group Seeks Criminal Investigation of Torture Docs
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 06:38 PM by kpete
Source: Mother Jones

Physicians' Group Seeks Criminal Investigation of Torture Docs
— By Michael Mechanic | Mon August 31, 2009 12:52 PM PST
—Photo from Flickr under a Creative Commons license

Doctors, nurses, psychologists, and other health care professionals complicit in the US torture program should be subject to an independent investigation, and those found to have violated professional ethics or the law should be prosecuted and/or lose their license and professional society memberships. That sentiment, from the nonprofit Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), may well mark the first time a doctors' group has demanded true accountability of its professional peers.

Back in 1986, PHR was founded on the idea that health care professionals—given "their specialized skills, ethical commitments, and credible voices, are uniquely positioned to investigate the health consequences of human rights violations and work to stop them." Little did the founders realize they would one day be looking into the activities of their own government and colleagues.

Since 2002, doctors, medics, and mental health professionals in federal employ have brazenly violated longstanding and internationally recognized ethical obligations forbidding participation in torture and abuse of prisoners. As Justine Sharrock reported in our July/August issue ("First, Do Harm"), some military doctors did speak up internally regarding the aberrant policies—which came down directly from Donald Rumsfeld's Pentagon by way of the CIA and lawyers in the White House Office of Legal Counsel. But those voices were quickly stifled. Retired Army Brig. General Stephen N. Xenakis told Sharrock that after the dissenters were shut down, they and others feared for their careers and simply shut up.

They weren't the only ones. Physicians for Human Rights, which shared a Nobel Peace Prize in 1997, has been conducting the sorts of analyses that others—including state medical licensing boards and professional groups such as the American Medical Association and the American Psychological Association—have simply refused to undertake.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2009/08/physicians-seek-criminal-investigation-colleagues-who-tortured



Aiding Torture: Health Professionals’ Ethics and Human Rights Violations Demonstrated in the May 2004 CIA Inspector General’s Report

This 6-page white paper, published August 31, 2009, after the new release of the May 2004 CIA Inspector General's report, shows that the extent to which American doctors and psychologists violated human rights and betrayed the ethical standards of their professions by designing, implementing, and legitimizing a worldwide torture program is worse than previously known.

A team of PHR doctors authored the white paper, which details how the CIA relied on medical expertise to rationalize and carry out abusive and unlawful interrogations. It also refers to aggregate collection of data on detainees’ reaction to interrogation methods. Physicians for Human Rights is concerned that this data collection and analysis may amount to human experimentation and calls for more investigation on this point. If confirmed, the development of a research protocol to assess and refine the use of the waterboard or other techniques would likely constitute a new, previously unknown category of ethical violations committed by CIA physicians and psychologists.

http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/news-2009-08-31.html
FULL Report: http://physiciansforhumanrights.org/library/documents/reports/aiding-torture.pdf

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:32 PM
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1. "Bring it on." - decent citizens of the USA
Edited on Mon Aug-31-09 06:35 PM by SpiralHawk
Let justice be done.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:33 PM
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2. I Think The Movement Against Torture Is Going Viral!
Got my fingers crossed to my ankles on that.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:38 PM
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3. The Torture Docs must have taken the Hypocritical Oath. nt
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Chemisse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 06:39 PM
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4. I didn't see that one coming
And I love it!!

I like that it is not a political group. It really should not be a political issue; it is a criminal issue.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:06 PM
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5. kick
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Doremus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:40 PM
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6. Great, now we even have our own Dr. Mengele.
"human experimentation"

Go after them, please.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:51 PM
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7. There have to be firm rules, which the administration/military must make clear . . .
and that includes what doctors and other medical personnel can and cannot do --

obviously Cheney/Bush got away with so much of this because of corrupt personnel,

but also because they corrupted the rules -- failing to advise soldiers and CIA

that we are following Geneva Accords!



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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 07:57 PM
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8. I agree. Accountability at ALL levels.
In the words of George W. Bush, "War crimes will be prosecuted. War criminals will be punished. And it will be no defense to say, 'I was just following orders.'"

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mullard12ax7 Donating Member (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-31-09 11:43 PM
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9. Money is more important than morals to Americans
It's the "I got mine" syndrome, small-minded cheerleaders of whatever political party is controlling the propaganda only care about themselves and are unable to see society as a whole. This is a very serious problem that our culture will face in the next few years as it becomes obvious that unemployment and our destroyed infrastructure is going to be extremely difficult to fix.
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 05:49 AM
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10. Too Much Drama For Obama.
We can't let a few Megele-maniacs deter us from "looking forward" to our new bipartisan agenda.

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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-01-09 03:46 PM
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11. K & R for visibility
Doing nothing enables sociopathic behavior. They literally bank on fostering SOCIAL AMNESIA, apathy and intimidation, and that we "MOVE ON" to the future, where their methods will be much much worse. IT CAN GET WORSE. They will come back stronger next time.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 01:02 PM
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12. CIA doctors face human experimentation claims (The Guardian)
Where is the wide ranging investigation and prosecution of these criminals which justice demands? (sound of crickets)

CIA doctors face human experimentation claims

Medical ethics group says physicians monitored 'enhanced interrogation techniques' and studied their effectiveness

Ed Pilkington in New York
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 2 September 2009 18.39 BST


Doctors and psychologists the CIA employed to monitor its "enhanced interrogation" of terror suspects came close to, and may even have committed, unlawful human experimentation, a medical ethics watchdog has alleged.

Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), a non-profit group that has investigated the role of medical personnel in alleged incidents of torture at Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other US detention sites, accuses doctors of being far more involved than hitherto understood.

PHR says health professionals participated at every stage in the development, implementation and legal justification of what it calls the CIA's secret "torture programme".

The American Medical Association, the largest body of physicians in the US, said it was in open dialogue with the Obama administration and other government agencies over the role of doctors. "The participation of physicians in torture and interrogation is a violation of core ethical values," it said.

The most incendiary accusation of PHR's latest report, Aiding Torture, is that doctors actively monitored the CIA's interrogation techniques with a view to determining their effectiveness, using detainees as human subjects without their consent. The report concludes that such data-gathering was "a practice that approaches unlawful experimentation".

Human experimentation without consent has been prohibited in any setting since 1947, when the Nuremberg Code, which resulted from the prosecution of Nazi doctors, set down 10 sacrosanct principles. The code states that voluntary consent of subjects is essential, and that all unnecessary physical and mental suffering should be avoided

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/02/cia-usa
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 02:16 PM
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13. torquemada had doctors present when he tortured prisoners.
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 03:42 PM
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14. YES!!!!!!!!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 05:33 PM
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15. Bravo, Docs, Bravo!
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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16. CIA doctors face human experimentation claims
Source: The Guardian

Doctors and psychologists the CIA employed to monitor its "enhanced interrogation" of terror suspects came close to, and may even have committed, unlawful human experimentation, a medical ethics watchdog has alleged.

Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), a not-for-profit group that has investigated the role of medical personnel in alleged incidents of torture at Guantánamo, Abu Ghraib, Bagram and other US detention sites, accuses doctors of being far more involved than hitherto understood.

... The most incendiary accusation of PHR's latest report, Aiding Torture, is that doctors actively monitored the CIA's interrogation techniques with a view to determining their effectiveness, using detainees as human subjects without their consent. The report concludes that such data gathering was "a practice that approaches unlawful experimentation".

Human experimentation without consent has been prohibited in any setting since 1947, when the Nuremberg Code, which resulted from the prosecution of Nazi doctors, set down 10 sacrosanct principles. The code states that voluntary consent of subjects is essential and that all unnecessary physical and mental suffering should be avoided.

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/02/cia-usa
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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17. Ah, on what slippery slopes we try to adhere, when torture and fear we begin to hold dear. . .
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Piewhacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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22. "The Doctors Trial" and the Nuremberg Code. Deja-Vu all over again.
The "Doctors Trial" at Nuremburg was in response to inhumane Nazi human experimentation (ie Mengele...)
In August 1947, the judges delivered their verdict in the "Doctors' Trial" against Karl Brandt and several others (United States of America v. ... Brandt), setting out The Nuremberg Code as a set of principles for human experimentation (see Karl Brandt, personal physician to Adolf Hitler who headed the administration of the Nazi euthanasia program from 1939).


Ten points were set forth regarding human experimentation:
1. The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, over-reaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonable to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.
2. The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
3. The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
4. The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
5. No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
6. The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
7. Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
8. The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
9. During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
10. During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.

cite http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/Nuremberg-Code





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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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18. And where oh where is the law on this matter? Why is no one being investigated?
What more is needed before someone says "Enough!"
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oligarhy Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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19. None of these people remembered their history classes
We were taught that the Nazis did this stuff, and these doctors are supposed to be more educated then us?

They should be prosecuted in the U.S. and then at the Hague.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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20. Hope the torturers fry sooner rather than later.
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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21. Has George W. Bush been cloned 666 times over yet?
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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23. Yeah the bush administration did constantly remind me of nazis. It was the way they worked.
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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24. I don't know
why anyone would believe tales like this.

Oh, maybe the 'Links' give credibility to stories like torture or shadow experiments.

Surely though one would be a fool to believe the Bush administration would target a poster at DU lacking the necessary credentials of Links.

Sorry - I'm in a bad mood after the last 5 years lacking credentials.


:redbox: :tv:


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DannyNoonan Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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25. Further
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 07:11 PM by DannyNoonan
down the rabbit hole we go. I'm sick of hearing comparisons to Nazis whether it's about health care reform or the Bush policies. America owns this.

http://www.pufferfishblog.com/
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:15 PM
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26. Every doctor and nurse involved in torture should be stripped of their license.
Edited on Wed Sep-02-09 07:12 PM by McCamy Taylor
That would send a clear message.

Here is a suggestion. If you know doctors and nurses who were involved in torture, contact the state medical board that licenses them and file a complaint. Such boards are required to follow up on complaints received, no matter how frivolous. And torture is serious.
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 07:25 PM
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27. K&R
They did the same things during the Cold War.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-02-09 09:34 PM
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28. YES!
Good People!
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