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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 11:56 AM
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Rating agencies lose key free-speech claim
Source: Reuters


NEW YORK (Reuters) - Credit rating agencies may find it harder to argue that their opinions deserve free speech protection after a judge rejected efforts by Moody's Investors Service and Standard & Poor's to dismiss a fraud lawsuit.

In a case alleging that inflated ratings on risky mortgages led to investment losses, U.S. District Judge Shira Scheindlin on Wednesday said ratings on notes sold privately to a group of investors were not "matters of public concern" deserving broad protection under the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

The Manhattan judge said investors may pursue their lawsuit accusing Moody's, S&P and Morgan Stanley (MS.N), which marketed the notes, of issuing false and misleading statements about the notes, which were backed by subprime mortgages and other debt.

Scheindlin's ruling may affect lawsuits by pension funds -- including the nation's largest, the California Public Employees' Retirement System, or CalPERS -- and other investors that want to hold banks and rating agencies responsible for exaggerating the value and safety of debt in order to win fees.

"This is potentially a very significant opinion," said Joseph Mason, a finance professor at Louisiana State University's business school in Baton Rouge.

"It seems they have found a hole in the First Amendment defense, the agencies' primary line of defense," he said. "There is a feeling throughout the investment industry that agencies committed an egregious breach, but the issue is how to gain traction under the law. This opinion seems to give hope."

Rating agencies typically get broad free-speech protection similar to that afforded journalists, and plaintiffs must often show that ratings reflect "actual malice" before they can recover. That protection, of course, is not absolute.

"The First Amendment doesn't allow anyone to commit fraud," said George Cohen, a professor at the University of Virginia School of Law.

Sean Egan, managing director of Egan-Jones Ratings Co, an independent agency critical of how rivals are compensated, called Scheindlin's ruling "a watershed event. This is the first major breach in the First Amendment defense, and makes it substantially easier for other plaintiffs."


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/reutersEdge/idUSTRE5824KN20090903
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:08 PM
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1. What's next? Claiming your cooked books are entitled to First Am. protection?
How about Madoff's financial statments?

Come on, people.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:00 PM
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8. "My general ledger is an expression of angst in the modern world"
"My 1040A is about the optimism inherent in the human spirit..."
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:06 PM
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11. :D That made me literally laugh out loud.
:rofl:
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:13 PM
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2. WTF? THis was EVEN talked abut in a US Court of law?
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cleverusername Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:40 PM
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3. Rating agencies are a racket
Not only that. The rating agencies have no duty of due diligence. Their opinions need not be based on objective facts (like balance sheets, sufficient capitalization, etc.). It's truly a racket.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 12:45 PM
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4. time to make corporate personhood illegal
enough is enough
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:14 PM
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5. Amen! Then Congress would have to go back to serving We The People.
Instead of They The Coporate Persona they currently ignore us to serve.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:20 PM
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6. exactly... it would go a long way to changing things in DC
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 01:44 PM
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7. You know DC would counter that with giving corporations the right to vote.
Then they could just shut us out altogether.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:29 PM
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9. Bingo.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 02:53 PM
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10. they would try... but it would get lots of attention
and I'm not sure they'd be able to pull it off.
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:08 PM
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12. Peter goes to Congress. All they'll need is a paper clip to pass it.
They'll attach it to the you're all dead if this doesn't pass Act. They might even attach it to the you're all rich if this passes Act. But either way corporations gaining the right to vote will be the least of your worries.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-03-09 03:18 PM
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13. where there is a will, there will be a way. This fight has no...
beginning nor end. I am ver going anywhere, and know too many who feel the same.
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