Arctic reverses trend, is warmest in two millennia

Source: Associated Press

The Arctic is warmer than it's been in 2,000 years, even though it should be cooling because of changes in the Earth's orbit that cause the region to get less direct sunlight.

Indeed, the Arctic had been cooling for nearly two millennia before reversing course in the last century and starting to warm as human activities added greenhouse gases to the atmosphere.

"If it hadn't been for the increase in human-produced greenhouse gases, summer temperatures in the Arctic should have cooled gradually over the last century," said Bette Otto-Bliesner, a National Center for Atmospheric Research scientist and co-author of a study of Arctic temperatures published in Friday's edition of the journal Science.

The most recent 10-year interval, 1999-2008, was the warmest of the last 2,000 years in the Arctic, according to the researchers led by Darrell S. Kaufman, a professor of geology and environmental science at Northern Arizona University.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/09/03/national/w110104D96.DTL&tsp=1

there was a scientist and when questioned by Ingraham the scientist said yes the earth was warming and Ingraham "had" to quickly go to a break and said the earth is not warming it is getting cooler. She is a complete idiot.

But that's from all the Ice that has melted in the Arctic. Next year could be brutal. we could see our first 100 degree day in May.

whole region was cool this year. I can hear the deniers say that because their region was cooler than normal, the whole earth is cooler.

going on and on about how ridiculous it was that Gore was talking about global warming ... essentially, the radio idiot was saying "We just had single-digit temperatures!" as proof ... imagine that ... cold ... in January ... in Cleveland! What are the odds of that?

And, without even a fleeting glance at irony, the RW idiot went into the weather report, which pointed out that, despite just having low temperatures that day, Cleveland was going to have temperatures in the 50s by the weekend ... imagine that ... 50+ degree weather ... in January ... in Cleveland! (and what are the odds of that?)

Link to me posting about that ... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=109x31616

that self centered view of the world become Democrats.

Thanks.

I think beer has been the muse of many a wise man. Maybe even more than marijuana. Sober people tend to come up with stupid stuff like, just say no and Iraq has WMD's. :eyes:

:crazy: What the hell was I thinking?

:rofl:

Someone that looks very much like the dumbass that was in the White House the last 8 years....

I'm talking about the process not the theory. If you know what I mean.

minimum our star is going through. Once that is over the overall warming trend could snap back at us like a rubber-band.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/08/another-little-ice-age-solar-activity-and-climate-change.ars

Jay

its good to know your enemy. I am glad we have a few watching Fox.. just so they can report back to us the crap, as Republicans ratchet it up a few links. I am glad some one has the stomach for it, because like watching surgery films, I would probably vomit alot.

We need more people watching C-span I, II and II and monitoring it for us --
I miss a lot every day --
IMO, that's more important --

The organizations have done a good job of it -- and we've had pretty good
response on things they've brought to our attention, I think?

We need government to break up this monopoly -- put our anti-trust laws to use!

What the FCC has done is also outrageous -- all of this stuff has to be straightened out
if we're ever to get back anything we might call a free press.

Right now, it's all a merry-go-round of corporate money --
Campaign finance BRIBERY buys our candidates and elected officials -- government.
TV/corporate-press gets 80% of that for election ads --
Corporate-press blocks reality of 9/11 and WMD, Bush/Cheney lies and then
these companies profit from the wars!

Not much chance of their changing their tune with all of that going on.

And -- we have "pre-owned" Baucus heading up the health reform hearings!!!

I was flipping between MSNBC, Fox and CNN and caught Ingraham saying that. I did not stay long.

If C-span gets boring I go wandering . . . really frightening what's on the TV!

:evilgrin:

Well, okay, she might be stupid, too, but that's not why she's repeating the lies.

All that proves is you need to be using more conditioner. It has nothing to do with the global warming hoax. :crazy:

Thanks for the thread, Newsjock.

Being that the earth is only 6000 years old that is hard to believe :rofl:

The people that also believe global warming is a hoax are only concerned about Iced Coors. Who cares if the mountain out back is on fire? As long as the mountain on the can is blue, we're cool.

In 40,000 years, the Earth has NEVER warmed this much in such a short period of time. The ice cores prove it. That's my evidence--not the "models" put forth by either side of the argument.

We're only up to 1959 now . . . in the effects we are feeling!!

Another few years w/o rain the amount of tree's dying will go from 25% to 50%. It's really a bummer. Throw in all the new lightning storms we are getting every year and this state will be burnt to a crisp. It'll make this year seem like a campfire.

In just the last couple of days, the ice cleared between Severnaya Zemlya and the Siberian coast, making for clear sailing between Europe and Asia.

A map showing the extent of ice in the Arctic is at

A previous DU story on the sailing of two ships from Vladivostok to Rotterdam is at http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=206476&mesg_id=206476

The Northwest Passage through the Canadian islands is still showing some ice, but is probably pretty navigable by icebreakers.

Resist professional PR bullying on the healthcare thing because their next move, funded by Old Energy companies, will be to oppose cutting US carbon emissions.

Those amoral right wing PR firms are cranking out a bunch of "energy citizen"s to protest that damn socialist energy retooling we desperately need to do.

If our dear Dems don't stand up and slam expanding Medicare as the public option back in the face of their professional bullying, they'll roll out the damn storm troops to order for corporate block to corporate block. Professional bullying is a lucrative business.

who study our atmosphere, have claimed since the '50's (a convention held in Huntsville, Ala) that this earth will become uninhabitable by the year 2100. There was a convention. That was their resulting conclusion. Uninhabitable by 2100. So it makes sense why the top 1-2% need money. They all have known, thanks to their think-tanks. There are space shuttles out there. (Built with tax payer money). 'Sir' Richard Branson of Virgin Airlines has manipulated governments to help build his Spaceport, I believe in New Mexico, but it could be Arizona. These are facts. Thread them together, you get a sci-fi reality peek into the not too distant future. :scared: :scared: :scared: In a way I wish I didn't know how bad it's been and is going to be.

The general temperature trend since the Holocene Maximum 8000 years ago has been slowly down. the Little Ice age was the coolest period in the last 8000 years.

Health care reform, campaign finance reform, terrorism, education, poverty all become moot issues if we let our planet go to hell. For the infants who refuse to believe humans are causing this harm to our Mother, use simple, direct language to help persuade them. Forget those who cannot be persuaded. Vote only for politicians serious about tackling climate and pollution problems. Government and the private sector must cooperate; the problem is too big for only one or the other.