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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:04 AM Original message |
SONIC WEAPONS USED IN IRAQ STATIONED AT TOWNHALL FORUMS IN SAN DIEGO |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. Scary shit. |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Here's some irony for you--I might be in front of one Saturday! |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Well, that will be interesting. Please report back on the reaction to your question. |
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Hoopla Phil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Good luck, stay safe. |
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babydollhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
46. come to Pittsburgh for the g20 |
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Mopar151 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
52. San Diego County Sherrifs bear watching |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. Nor would I |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
3. To scare the birds off a runway, it will have to be louder than a 747. n/t |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. Frequency, not decibels. n/t |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
4. Ok we know it's scary, but what are the countermeasures? |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. tin foil hats? |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
82. Good idea, tell me how that works out for you. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #14 |
87. metal helmet prolly just turns your noggin into a bell |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. Hoses aren't used to disperse crowds anymore, because... |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #6 |
68. Not true. |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
94. I didn't know that they're still used. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
88. eric, you ain't been to texas, have ya? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
95. I haven't been to Texas in a long time. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
7. K&R Wow, great story |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. I think the point is this: Military weapons ought to be banned from any and all civilian use/sales. |
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zelta gaisma (220 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I think most are, but your right,war weapons shouldn't be used on non-combatants n/t |
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loudsue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
57. War should be banned from the earth. |
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Treo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. How do you propose to enforce the ban?NT |
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lagavulin (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #8 |
73. Exactly. This is all about setting a precedent for their use! |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:05 AM Response to Original message |
9. 'the right to bear sonic arms' it is in the Constitution! |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. That being the case, I want my shoulder mounted tactical nuclear device! |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
58. The reason that amendment exists |
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Blandocyte (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
10. So those things receive a current thru the wire running to 'em? |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I'd think that flat objects (like riot shields) would reflect it back ... |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Parabolic reflectors would work better. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:43 AM Response to Reply #11 |
60. Yes, LRAD can be blocked by any sort of solid surface shield. |
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katkat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. poor wire |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. sound thingie! ha... |
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liberalmike27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
75. Yea |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
89. garden shears cut live cords quite well, and have wooden handles |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think I saw a similar type thing at the RNC convention in NYC. n/t |
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Old Vet (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. They are also being used to save lives! |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Could you explain more about how sonic waves save swimmers, |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #17 |
48. I suspect there may be one installed on our local police helicopter |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
63. Saves swimmers from worrying about drowing cause they are now |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. and it yells at people in burning buildings to "get out"maybe? |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #17 |
92. They can produce targeted sound that carries farther than megaophones -- |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
26. Please provide a source, if you can. I find nothing through Google. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
32. And they laughed at US when WE complained about it. |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
39. Personally, I still see them as a threat, |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Same here. But, if they're used against Republicans, maybe we can get rid of these things. n/t |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:08 PM Response to Reply #12 |
91. Yes, they were used at the RNC convention in NY. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
19. We've been complaining about this sort of thing for 8 years now. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
21. You might NOT want to use counter-measures to protect yourself against such things. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. So now iPods are "effective counter-measures"? "A field guide somewhere"? |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I would guess that earplugs (like ones used at a firing range) are more effective than ipods. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
22. (sound) waves are a powerful thing |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
24. That company that makes them must have one hell of a |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Not if they sell to China, among other places. |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
25. And you just know they're dying to try these out. |
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Aviation Pro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
27. LRAD? At a town hall event? |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
31. Piffle. Pshaw. And yawn. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:26 AM Response to Original message |
33. What next, unmanned drones? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. that's already happened in Florida |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
65. A friend in Mich. told me about unmanned observation balloons on the border up there. A few |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
86. Central Florida is ground zero for "homeland security high technology" -- Palm Bay let a local |
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lasttrip (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:29 AM Response to Original message |
34. the japanese whaling fleet used them on the sea shepards- |
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sohndrsmith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #34 |
83. First thing I thought of, too. Not only are such devices disorienting, but |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. Gee, it'd be a fucking shame if a mob of rabid teabaggers was dispersed by these... |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. Hmmm...Sonic weapons vs. tea baggers... |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. What, no Vietnam War protest era water hoses? |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #36 |
70. What, no Vietnam War protest era water hoses? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
41. Put a bullet through the face of it. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What happens if you attempt to disperse a crowd, and instead cause a stampede? |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. Yeah that Little Fascist Clown Car looks mighty tippable |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. I want one. :D n/t |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Really! Get two of them and hook them up to the CD player... |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. I think the thunder cars that drive by my house use them to play some kind of noise they call music. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
45. What happens if I aim it at a car with a really loud sound system? |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #45 |
79. There might be total quiet at that antimatter implosion point |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
49. The War has come home... |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
50. The Creative Protestor will need to upgrade to EMP weapons |
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IDFbunny (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
78. Military electronics are hardened for EMP |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
53. So the message is, if you don't want to go deaf, don't exercise your right to protest. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:59 AM Response to Original message |
55. The police state moves forward! |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
56. been watching "Whale Wars" recently, and the Japanese whalers are using LRADs . . . |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
59. Relax, tea-baggers, they only use that stuff against the "left." (nt) |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
61. I'm sure overzealous LE officers would NEVER use one of these |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
62. I'd rather have a loudspeaker pointed at me than a microwave emitter. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
64. What happens if someone has one of these devices and focuses |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
66. k i c k |
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bobshin (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
67. Interesting. I came across something similar in my search to disperse teenagers |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:54 AM Response to Original message |
69. Should there be government controls on who should be able to buy or own a sonic weapon? |
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Blacksheep214 (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It's designed to kill Granny! |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
81. So for crowds all the authorities can do is make them deaf, or shoot them? |
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notesdev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
76. Tasering one at a time isn't satisfying enough to a power-mad goon with a badge n/t |
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recoveringrepublican (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'm pretty deaf, was wondering if this would effect me while watching "Whale Wars" nt |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
80. Or what if someone flipped the "Deafening Tone Meant To Disperse Insurgents" switch by mistake? |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
84. I think it shows how worthless they are and they will only make |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
93. If they are good enough for Iraqi crowds, why not American? |
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