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MinM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:19 AM Original message |
Owosso police look into two related murders |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. Interesting. A Fox story refers to him as "anti-abortion" |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. "The Michigan State Police say an anti-abortion activist "-so do |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I know. When I first noticed that headline I wanted to scold the OP |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Fox news actually got something right! |
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Dr_Willie_Feelgood (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #8 |
37. I have problems with the death penalty and war... |
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SPedigrees (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
55. Yes, if these are your views, I would say you are genuinely pro-life. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #37 |
73. Well, of course. Go ahead and call yourself "pro-life" because you truly seem to be. |
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Hestia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. That's exactly what I tell men who want to "discuss" abortion - you can't get pregnant, so you have |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. .. |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
4. Comments at the freep are interesting. |
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Dr_Willie_Feelgood (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Is abortion the Lithmus test? |
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apnu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. I have no idea, the whole thing is confused... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
47. most definitely no |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Please define what you mean by "pro-choice" in order to help me figure out what you mean |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. I wonder what happened. |
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comtec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
6. in trying to work up a tear |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. ................... |
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Bozita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. update: 2 killings in Owosso |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
10. Was the activist shot dead BECAUSE of his activism? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
19. To identify him better to their readers. It sounds like he was a fairly well-known character. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
11. I found this in the comments section....... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
58. " dont take a coat hanger to your vagina" is a good reason they should be legally and hygiencially |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
12. Apparently the antis have been terrorizing schools with their bloody pictures. |
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demoborn47 (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
13. I wish the actual facts mattered, but |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Pretty much (nt) |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Explain to me how this death is anything but a good thing. One less reich-wing cretin abusing |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
32. First you call for the assassination of Mark Levin |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. I've heard of Levin (he's a Hannity-ite with his own show) but cannot remember |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #48 |
67. I very vividly remember your call for his assassination |
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Dr_Willie_Feelgood (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. WRONG ANSWER!!!!!!!!! |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. IN other words, to borrow an acronym - IBTL. Sorry, but the achievement of the goals |
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Dr_Willie_Feelgood (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. I wish I had flawless knowledge! |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. i have friends on both sides of the abortion fence |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. So. Can you tell me what values and stances YOU have that you think are wrong? |
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Dr_Willie_Feelgood (129 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. The death of some old coot carrying a protest sign... |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. Yeah...because murder is so awesome! |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. I heard the SAME thing about Tiller |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #29 |
72. How was he "abusing children"? Did I miss something? |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
74. Disgusting |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #29 |
75. Your parents must be ashamed. |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #75 |
82. You Know, Your Outrage Might Resonate Somewhat Stronger.... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. As if murder and self defense are the same thing. Your parents should be ashamed too. |
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Paladin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Serena Williams Sends Her Regards....... (n/t) |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. At least she's not threatening me. n/t |
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salin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 08:23 AM Response to Reply #29 |
81. This sentiment (but from the other side) is what leads to the crazies |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
14. Keep us posted and find out all we can. Hopefully we have not |
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T Wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Not everything. Just some specific, individual problems. And yes, the media will spin this to |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
16. Fight breaking out in the comments section. These are local people. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I know I shouldn't have laughed |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. lol |
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texasleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
43. lol |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
61. idiots. The guy also shot a man he knew at a gravel pit. Odds are abortion is not the issue. n/t |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
21. Are we supposed to be sad? Because I'm not. |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
41. I expect us to be better than them. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. So, you think we should be forced to be sad when someone who |
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Duke Newcombe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. And there's the problem, I'm afraid... n/t |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
53. I will NEVER shed a single tear for anyone who wishes to enslave women. |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. So having children is enslaving women? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. +1 nt |
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Kievan Rus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-12-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #53 |
76. And if you feel that way, then you're no better than they are |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
71. Classy. Real classy. |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
22. He was a member of Operation Rescue! Jim Pouillon |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
23. Retroactive abortion? |
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get the red out (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
24. I have a feeling |
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MinM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Re: I have a feeling |
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MinM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:03 AM Response to Reply #28 |
87. Depression: Not Political... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
25. The suspect shot two people. The other guys name was Mike Fouss |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
27. The second guy has a website.... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
31. Owosso Township gravel pit owner identified as second homicide victim |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. A "rumor" |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
38. If this were an abortion/prochoice activist, we would be... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 12:15 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Thank you for your post |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 01:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
77. Where are you getting this "violence in the pursuit of political ideals" stuff? |
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Crowman1979 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
45. I think these shootings have nothing to do with politics. |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. You could be right. |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. And it could be that this dude had some other history with the shooter. |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
51. A local gravel pit owner was murdered first. So why doesn't that lead? |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:49 AM Response to Reply #51 |
78. No, Fouss was killed about an hour after Pouillon |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
54. I'm pro-choice, but this ain't right |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Do you think he shot the gravel pit guy over his pro-choice views? This was probably random.. |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Dunno about the gravel workers' view on abortion, but... |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
59. I think the shooting was random, since the man also shot someone he knew at a gravel pit. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
69. ABC news compared it to Tiller and put them on "opposing sides." |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
65. Police: Shooting suspect offended by anti-abortion material |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-11-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I dunno if this was premeditated or not. He could've been angrily walking by the dead fetus signs... |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 04:52 AM Response to Reply #68 |
79. Pouillon was the FIRST victim |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-13-09 05:14 AM Response to Reply #65 |
80. This is pretty in your face inflamatory material directed at high school kids |
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