MISSING YALE STUDENT: CRIME SCENE FOUND IN BUILDING

Source: New Haven Register

NEW HAVEN — Bloody clothes and other evidence of a crime scene have been found inside the building where missing Yale University student Annie Le was last seen, police sources said Saturday.

The discovery may dash hopes that Le, whose wedding Sunday has been called off, would be found alive.

Police sources said the evidence was discovered in a ceiling at the Yale building at 10 Amistad St. where surveillance footage shows Le entering Tuesday morning. She has not been seen since. The building houses the university’s molecular biology labs.

Read more: http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/12/news/new_haven/doc4aabf19f66a5b662461713.txt

you are joking, it's an idiotic joke. If you are not joking, you ARE an idiot.

How is it that they're just finding this now? Wouldn't the last place someone was seen be the first place you would look for clues? Even if it was in the ceiling, still, you'd think there would be stains or something. Of course, what do I know?

I hope they find her, but these things usually don't end up very well, especially if someone took the time to hide the evidence.

rooms and heating duct areas, and other places not usually accessed on a summer/fall day.

There are areas where you have to know the door code to get in..not areas used for the business functions, areas like set aside for electrical and heating/air conditioning. Why that building wasn't TOTALLY OPENED UP for police and FBI in 3-5 hours... I have no idea...maybe there are computer logs about entry and exit to those areas..and no computer records of entry were listed, due to some computer monitoring glitch.

That's my BEST guess. I used to virtually LIVE in a large university with research facilities. They had rooms below rooms, sub-basements which were just for heating, internet, gas and electric, or air conditioning. There was a code to access them by elevator (and the staircase, too)..and a record of the access on a computer system for the entire university, and cameras at the entrance took a picure. I got down there with a building maintenance man, and my picture standing alone in the elevator got recorded by a camera. The next week, the university security had compared my face to my ID card record on file, and called me in to explain why I was there alone. Of course, it was cleared up in a day or so, when the facilities worker told them he'd taken me there to look at an internet connection wiring.

and when they looked at the cameras she was not among the ones evacuated. There were speculations that, perhaps, the fire alarm was a ruse.

Still, why would anyone decide to hard her?

If she had stayed behind, and there were not many people left in the building, that could have given someone the opportunity to do whatever was done to her.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549691,00.html


(sorry it is fox news, first one that popped up)

There was no footage of her leaving the building, in spite of a fire alarm that went off about 12:40 p.m. The alarm isn't thought to be connected to her disappearance.

Yet apparently her body was found inside a wall of the building.
A fire alarm would have gotten people out of the building, so it would have to be a very convenient coincidence for it to happen on the same day as she went missing.

a couple of blocks from the main Yale medical campus (where I was employed for a couple of years in the mid-'90s).

:(

but, according to the NY Daily News, they found her body. This is such a sad story.

WTNH in New Haven says, "New Haven Police Chief James Lewis would only tell News Channel 8 that no body has been found."

http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_new_haven_bloody_clothing_found_at_yale_200909121535

I live near New Haven and work there and have many friends who work at Yale. This is hitting people hard.

for setting the record straight on that. I wasn't sure since the source for the other story was the NY Daily News.

It could have been one of those "runway bride" things, aka Jennifer Wilbanks.
But if there is a bloody crime scene, it doesn't look to be that way.

On WTNH: http://www.wtnh.com/subindex/video/live_events_1

And the investigators aren't even sure any items found in the building are connected to her as of yet.
There was no confirmation at all on whether any bloody clothes have been found.
I am not sure why even have a press conference if they weren't going to really say anything.
But I guess some rumors have been shown to be false.

He is said to be cooperating with them.

what if she called it off at the last minute, he got angry and killed her?

who canceled a class the young lady was supposed to attend at roughly the same time as she went missing.

It's starting to sound like an episode of Law & Order.

Indeed.

"Citing a police source, the New York Daily News reported that police on Friday questioned a Yale professor in Le's disappearance. According to the report, Le was supposed to attend the professor's class on Tuesday, but the class was canceled and Le was discovered missing a few hours later.

However, the Yale Daily News quoted University Vice President and Secretary Linda Lorimer, who shot down those reports. Lorimer said the police were "interviewing tons of people" and that there was no reason to believe any professor was a suspect."

WTNH: http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_new_haven_bloody_clothing_found_at_yale_200909121535

So the class might have been cancelled because she, as a teaching assistant, didn't show up to teach it.
If it was a laboratory, she might have been responsible for teaching the whole class and without her it couldn't go on.

They probably would have checked his whereabouts during the period in question.

Le, a California native, was to be married to Jonathan Widawsky, a graduate student in physics at Columbia University. The two met as undergraduates at the University of Rochester. Widawsky has been cooperating with the investigation and is not considered a suspect, authorities say.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,549527,00.html

Source: NYDN

"Investigators found bloody clothing in the building where a missing Yale graduate student was last seen days before her wedding day, a police source said Saturday.

Cops discovered bride-to-be Annie Le's blood-stained clothes stuffed in the ceiling of the building at 10 Amistad St. in New Haven, the source said.

Still, authorities gave no clue they were any closer to solving Le's baffling disappearance.

"We're not in a position today to say whether this is a missing person case or whether criminality is involved," FBI spokeswoman Kim Mertz said."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/12/2009-09-12_cops_seeking_clues_in_missing_yale_student_annie_les_disappearance_say_case_wide.html#ixzz0QzdgeBWm

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/09/12/2009-09-12_cops_seeking_clues_in_missing_yale_student_annie_les_disappearance_say_case_wide.html

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I worked very briefly and tangentally on a similar case that occurred at Northwestern (I think) some years ago.

The Northwestern victim was killed and her corpse was taken out of the building in a suitcase. She was buried in a deep hole and was never found except the murderer tried to extort her parents to let them know where her body was.

Anyway, Annie Le is 4 foot 11 and 90 lbs. Check the video for everyone leaving with a large box, dufflebag or suitcase.

blood stained clothing. By the way, if a person is killed in the building and then the body is disposed of by taking it out of the building, why leave blood stained clothing behind? I don't think that makes any sense. Why not dispose of the body and clothing together?

She was a small woman. I believe she was a student in the dental school at Northwestern. The person who killed her was an ex-lover. He murdered her in the dorm and he walked out of the building with her body in a suitcase. After that I think he drove across the country to bury her. They did catch up with him, but it took a while.

so. If the bride is missing, you generally call off the wedding.

"...Le, WHO WAS TO BE MARRIED SUNDAY,..."

or "Le, WHOSE WEDDING WAS PLANNED FOR SUNDAY,..."

or several other options. Fucking reporters, fucking editors.

NEW HAVEN — The search for a missing Yale graduate student has turned to a trash facility in Hartford where towns and private haulers bring waste that is converted to electricity.

Paul Nonnenmacher, spokesman for the Connecticut Resource Recovery Authority, said state police were at the site late Saturday until early this morning, before taking a two hour break and resuming their search on Sunday. http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/13/blogs/doc4aad5240b27ab499772272.txt

Yale Daily News also is following this story and has articles: http://www.yaledailynews.com/

WTNH-New Haven: http://www.wtnh.com/dpp/news/new_haven_cty/news_wtnh_new_haven_reports_bloody_clothes_not_le_s_200909131726

New Haven Register: http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/13/news/doc4aad41ad5531c586462814.txt

"NEW HAVEN - The blood-stained clothes found in ceiling tiles at the Yale University laboratory where graduate student Annie Le disappeared are not the clothes Le was last seen wearing, law enforcement officials said.

The items were sent for testing to see if the clothes had any connection to Le, whose disappearance five days before her wedding has attracted national media attention.

Investigators said a small amount of blood was found on the clothing found Saturday at 10 Amistad St.

Le is the daughter of Vietnamese immigrants and her mother is said to own several nail salons in California. Sources said Le was primarily raised by an aunt and uncle."

someone to hide her clothes and then dispose of her body.
If somebody had disposed of the body, why wouldn't they have disposed of the clothing the same way?

And is it evidence of a crime involving someone else?

"the blood on the material could be either human blood or animal blood; many animal experiments are conducted in the research facility, he said, and so officials are currently analyzing the blood to determine its origins."

http://www.yaledailynews.com/crosscampus/2009/09/13/police-clothes-seized-lab-are-not-les/

Still, what was that clothing doing in a ceiling??

But perhaps somebody came to work, got their clothing bloody (doing animal experiments, for example), stuck them in the ceiling (would have to have a change of clothing with them, obviously) because that someone didn't want to go home that way? Could be totally unrelated to this case.

Anyone who has ever gone through this feels it all over again when a story like this comes out. They fear the worst, but they don't want it to be true. Nobody can eat or sleep or go on with life until they find her.

"NEW HAVEN — Human remains believed to be Annie Le were found Sunday in the Amistad Street building were the Yale grad student was last seen Tuesday, authorities said.

Tests are being performed on the remains, which were found inside a wall, authorities said late Sunday."

http://www.nhregister.com/articles/2009/09/13/news/new_haven/doc4aad8e5604e7d951608873.txt

Shit.

How would someone do it?
At the very least someone would need time to hide a body inside a wall. I am surprised authorities are so dismissive over the fire alarm being connected to the case. Fire alarm would have gotten everyone out of the building giving whoever did that time to hide the body.