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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:53 PM
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'Bin Laden' message harangues US
Source: BBC

Page last updated at 03:47 GMT, Monday, 14 September 2009 04:47 UK

An audio message purportedly by al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden has been released on an Islamist website.

The message, entitled "a statement to the American people", was about 10 minutes long and was accompanied by a still image of Bin Laden but no video.

In the message, a voice tells the US president that he is "powerless" to stop the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

<snip>

In the recording, the voice discusses what motivated the al-Qaeda network to launch the 11 September attacks. He explaining that they were, in part, fuelled by US support for Israel.



Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8253827.stm
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-13-09 11:57 PM
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1. Is anybody actually buying this shit any more?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:04 AM
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2. Even if it's legit (highly doubtful) so what? "His" messages thus far haven't
been harbingers of doom, just more anti-American-Israel rhetoric. He's impotent.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:09 AM
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3. It's been mistranslated, he's actually upset over Kanye West being a douchebag at the MTV VMAs.
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 12:11 AM by DRoseDARs
What a gay fish. :thumbsdown:



*Note: That's a South Park joke that, in the episode, everyone in the country got ... except Kanye West because he's a self-important douchebag (in real life too).
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Grinchie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:43 AM
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8. Not me, but I can see the need for a bump in the Polls before the G20 meeting.
Bin Ladin is probably right. Obama cannot stop the war in Afganistan, if he could, he would have by now, but the MIC demands payment and action.

I'm not so starstruck with Obama as others not to think he's just a quick to use Fear as a political tool as Bush did when the time is right.

Get people fired up and on edge for the big meeting next week in Pittsburgh.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:27 AM
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14. Riiiight... what are you doing here on this site, again? nt
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:20 AM
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19. It's neocon propaganda or might as well be.
It conforms to their reverse psychology technique.
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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:41 AM
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21. Your just so STOIC, I really admire your GREAT wisdom.

Your a visonary.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:11 AM
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4. Bin Laden Warns U.S. On Israel Ties: Website
Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden warned the American people over their government's close ties with Israel in an apparently new audio tape posted on an Islamist website on Monday.

"The time has come for you to liberate yourselves from fear and the ideological terrorism of neo-conservatives and the Israeli lobby," Bin Laden's latest tape said.

"The reason for our dispute with you is your support for your ally Israel, occupying our land in Palestine."

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/09/13/news/news-us-binladen-tape.html?_r=1
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:04 AM
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11. And that is designed to rally support for Israel.
I suspect the neocons, Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld to be the ones behind this. Where's Michael Ledeen these days? We are supposed to now express undying support for whatever Bin Forgotten is against, just to show him he has no influence over us. So transparent it's almost laughable.

Do they think we are children? And fwiw, I doubt very much that Obama had anything to do with this. It's just too stupid for him to be involved wit.

I don't know why the media even covers this garbage ~
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:13 AM
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5. There goes bin Laden stealing credit again for 9-11 from bushco!
It's almost like he's got a vendetta against truthers. ;)
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:19 AM
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6. IntelCenter is simply not credible
It's run out of a P.O. Box in Alexandria, Virginia
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:31 AM
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15. What, not even in Delaware,
like Goldman Sachs?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:43 AM
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7. Obama isn't even trying to stop the wars.
Wars--plural. He's working on Iraq while pushing to continue Afghanistan.
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:49 AM
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9. Is the CIA acting on it's own ?
Using the old standby fear mongering to inject more misery on the administration? :evilfrown:

Usama has been dead for some time now.
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GivePeaceAchance Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 12:50 AM
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10. ...
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 01:02 AM by GivePeaceAchance
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:10 AM
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12. Osama Bin Laden has released a dust fart.
Because he's dead.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:10 AM
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13. audio is so 'right wing' - lets see some video and see how bad he's doing

he must be failin fast if they can't run a camera on 'em any longer.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 01:35 AM
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16. He's dead. Why shouldn't we believe what Benazir Bhutto said? nt
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:13 AM
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17. Classic use of Rovian reverse psychology.
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 06:16 AM by CJCRANE
Also Bin Laden has changed his tune, he gave a different main reason for 9/11 before.

It's time to track down whoever is making these tapes...

On edit: and why does the media even report this sh*t? It could be anyone making these tapes.
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:18 AM
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18. Motivations
Edited on Mon Sep-14-09 06:19 AM by Alamuti Lotus
Also Bin Laden has changed his tune, he gave a different main reason for 9/11 before.

This is incorrect. While there are a variety of primary reasons, and their perceived 'importance' has occasionally shifted amongst themselves, this has always been one of them. I clearly recall the Sheikh citing the zionist assault on Beirut city towers in 1982 as a direct influence on the method of the attack that was chosen, and the US support of this war machine as a key motivation for action.
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 06:22 AM
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20. In his first statement he cited
US troops on Saudi soil as the main reason. Bush capitulated a couple of few years later.

The reference to Beirut came in a later statement IIRC.
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 08:57 AM
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22. What did 2Pac have to say about it? nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-14-09 09:52 AM
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23. BOOOO ...I'm the boogie man ...er fake CIA bull shit repuke scare tactic.
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