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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:42 PM Original message |
Swine Flu Deaths Show This Flu Is Different: Experts |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. I had acute respiratory distress syndrome, or ARDS, back in |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I'm sorry, ARDS sucks... no pun |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Bummer dude |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. It's the cytokine storm that causes the diffuse alveolar damage |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. I wonder if there is a way to counter this? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. In theory they reduce the severity of the infection and |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Would steroids help? |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Steroids, I am not a doctor, but from my limited knowledge as a medic |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Yeah, the antivirals help to an extent, but really, it depends on one's immune system |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Even though I am not generally a proponent of flu vaccines |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I'm a nurse so I will be on the first list |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. They are using the same processes as they do with the annual |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Safe as the lottery we take every year is what concerns me. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Have a long talk wiht your provider who knows the history |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
29. She's the one who will have to make the decision, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:56 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Good that is the way it shoudl be |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Not within a week of the immunization |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:42 AM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It's been hard to get straightforward information |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Latest CDC info |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. That's weird |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. That's the latest, Fauci said such the other day on CNBC |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. My hubby went to a meeting |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. I've read that there is no squalene, aluminum or mercury. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:02 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The formaldehyde is bothersome and completely contraindicated if you are allergic |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I happen to be allergic to it. And, I have an aversion to carcinogens. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. A woman I work with is allergic to it. It's in about everything. |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Agreed. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
52. There was a study that came out this week or late last week saying one shot |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. I've heard Zinc is helpful in combating the cytokine issue? |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. I would be surprised, since it isn't generally helpful with the flu |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. It's difficult to say without proper studies. However Coldeeze is still |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:59 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. If you read the ColdEEZE site carefully, |
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mzmolly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I didn't say they made that claim. |
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Ms. Toad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Studies do support their claim that it shortens the duration of colds |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. Thanks for sharing this. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:16 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. I'm taking the vax too |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:45 AM Response to Reply #9 |
36. same here |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
40. For HiN1 the virus actually massively invades the lungs and blood stream |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #40 |
56. neither does this flu - in most people. & all flus will enter the lungs in people with |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. cytokine storm = theoretic construct |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
3. Kick |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
4. ARDS was also common in the deaths we have from... 1918 |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I'm there!!! zero to conspiracy in .05 seconds!!!! |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. This is a very similar virus to the 1918 one so it isn't the least surprising |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Well from what I understand they tested |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. Does your dog bite? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Hey, I read the Stand |
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stuball111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
20. My Theory is this... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Here is an old saying from mexico regarding the Gripe, aka flu |
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stuball111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:22 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. True... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Now I will have to ask the usual question |
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stuball111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-17-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Do you think a flu shot will help? |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #20 |
47. DING!DING!DING! |
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NecklyTyler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:14 AM Response to Original message |
38. K&R |
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Ghost Dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. I'm curious whether smokers are considered more or less vulnerable |
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necso (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:28 AM Response to Original message |
41. CDC flu map (data): |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
44. So you're telling me pigs can fly? |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yet another reason not to get vaccinated |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
50. sounds exactly like the 1918 flu |
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