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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 07:49 PM
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California faces prisons deadline
Source: BBC News

California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has just hours in which to submit proposals to reduce the state's prison population by 40,000.

If he fails meet a midnight (0700GMT)deadline set by federal judges, he could be held in contempt of court.

The judges had earlier ruled that inmates were housed in dangerously overcrowded conditions.

But state leaders recently rejected plans for the early release of thousands of prisoners.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8264163.stm
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 08:12 PM
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1. Let out the non violent drug offenders....that should be easy enough to do...
I say jail the state leaders and the crime rate will fall.
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Stumbler Donating Member (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 01:43 AM
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6. I fully agree with releasing non-violent drug offenders
I always cringe when I hear about a rapist being let out 5 years early "for good behavior," while some pot-head is still serving his mandatory 25 years for not abusing Oxy-Contin (sp?) instead. Our "criminal-justice" system is so dysfunctional and backwards, it hurts the average citizen just to pay attention.

Btw, Governator, your state could save $1 billion, and earn an additional $1 billion each and every year if you decriminalize and tax your state's largest cash-crop. That would not only help your budget woes, but would make this whole prison-overpopulation-thingy be a thing of the past.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 08:16 PM
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2. The willingness to abuse prisoners is
a marker of our diminished humanity.

Is there any point at which the public and the legislators they elect to represent them will be willing to say "this is going to far"? Prisons holding double the number of inmates they are designed to hold doesn't sound an alarm. How about 3x, 5x, or 10x?
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Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 08:57 PM
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3. The answer is simple:
release everyone who's primary conviction
was for drugs, gambling, and/or prostitution.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-18-09 09:12 PM
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4. I think It might be some what amusing
to see Arnold Schwarzenegger serve some jail time for contempt of court. It would be a first for
California.. having its first governor sit behind bars.

As he is lead away in handcuffs, he will undoubtedly shout "Alye be baakk!"
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 12:58 AM
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5. Heres an idea
I imagine there are a number of schools probably sitting run down and unused, why not move the non violent ones there or the ones who are due to be out in under 2 years and have them refurbish these schools as sort of halfway houses.
After thats done they could then put them to work at state parks as well as cleaning an repairing state roads, that way their giving back to society and maybe even learning some things.
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12string Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 03:48 AM
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7. More prisons?
Edited on Sat Sep-19-09 03:50 AM by 12string
You sure wouldn't want to release that pot smoker until he's paid his debt to society.No sense in scaling back the PIC when you can expand it.Give me a break.I don't think much of your idea.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 11:52 AM
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9. What state parks?
About a hundred of 'em are about to be closed. Why? The same state that can pay to incarcerate tens of thousands of people more than its prisons were designed to hold, apparently can't afford to keep them open. That's why. :grr:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 10:52 AM
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14. Can't do that. It makes too much sense.
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 04:45 AM
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8. I'll wait for the press and the republicans to start calling their guvanaror;
Weak on crime and a girlie-man.
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 12:26 PM
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10. Their parole system is a huge part of the problem. n/t
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 12:31 PM
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11. IF some are let out, then what will they do for jobs?
Just like if all the troops come home today, what will they do?
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-19-09 01:12 PM
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12. Let them grow hemp and pot for smoking too...
that would open factories and create a lot of jobs....and taxes.
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Old Hob Donating Member (296 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:51 PM
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15. they can trim.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 12:40 AM
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13. Release the "victimless" criminals, give the deserving prisoners more breathing room
and save us a whole bunch of tax money. I'm with y'all in legalizing/regulating marijuana and prostitution. It's about time that California and other states start focusing more on education, which is a big crime preventer.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-20-09 01:07 PM
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16. "Welcome to Hotel California"
Hotel California "2", the "new and improved version".
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