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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:37 AM
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US, UK, French heads demand Iran nuke site opened
Source: AP

PITTSBURGH – Armed with the disclosure of a secret Iranian nuclear facility, President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain demanded Friday that Tehran fully disclose its nuclear ambitions "or be held accountable" to an impatient world community.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy said Iran has until December to comply or face new sanctions. British Prime Minister Gordon Brown accused Iran of "serial deception."

Said Obama: "Iran is breaking rules that all nations must follow."

Their dramatic joint statement opened the G-20 economic summit. Obama urged the International Atomic Energy Agency to investigate the site.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090925/ap_on_go_pr_wh/g20_summit_obama_iran
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 08:53 AM
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1. "rules all nations must follow" -- Including Israel?
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ro1942 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 09:47 AM
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2. Yes,what about Israel, are the inspectors there
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:36 AM
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3. show of unity
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:26 AM
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4. U.S., allies accuse Iran of building secret nuclear site
Source: Kansascity.com

PITTSBURGH - President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain accused Iran on Friday of building a secret uranium-enrichment facility that could have military uses. They threatened tougher U.N. sanctions unless Iran suspends its nuclear program by December.

"The size and configuration of this facility is inconsistent with a peaceful program," Obama said in a televised appearance with French President Nicolas Sarkozy and British Prime Minister Gordon Brown in Pittsburgh, where they're attending the G-20 summit.

The enrichment process can produce low-enriched uranium for nuclear power plants and highly enriched uranium for nuclear bomb fuel

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/440/story/1468454.html



It's déjà vu all over again.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:26 AM
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5. We all know Halliburton sold nuclear components to Iran.
Until Obama holds the last administration accountable, I could only believe Obama will take us into Iran.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:26 AM
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6. This the day after they invited inspectors in. Things that make you go Hmmm?
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nannah Donating Member (690 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:26 AM
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7. lets not forget the dismantling of brewster jennings.n/t
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:27 AM
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8. Nonsense, everyone knows they are just pursuing nuclear...
energy. :eyes:

I hear the 13th imam knocking.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:27 AM
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9. Yellow cake anyone?
Since the government has been so honest regarding threats in the past.
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AverageJoe5 Donating Member (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:27 AM
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10. What part of the NPT did Iran violate by the non-disclosure?
Reading the NPT text (http://www.un.org/events/npt2005/npttreaty.html) I don't see a requirement that the IAEA should be notified about facilities under construction, unless there are nuclear materials in the facility. Therefore, Iran was under no obligation to notify the IAEA about the new facility under construction, as long as there were no nuclear materials in it.

Also, in the NPT text, I don't see a limitation on the number of nuclear enrichment facilities an NPT member can have. Iran may build as many facilities as it wants to.
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MellonCollie Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:56 AM
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20. Nuuuuuurse! This one's asking questions!
Quick! Increase his dosage and get him back in front of the TV for more *cough* education *cough*.
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 02:35 PM
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21. Wish I could recommend based upon your comment!
Thank you for putting this in clear view.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:36 AM
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23. Do you want Iran to possess nuclear weapons?
This is a simple question, and I'm interested in a simple and direct answer.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 12:45 AM
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24. The violation is clear. Here are the relevant sections.
Article 42 of Iran's Safeguards Agreement, and Code 3.1 of the General Part of the Subsidiary Arrangements, oblige Iran to fully disclose to the IAEA any decision to build a facility to house operational centrifuges, and to further provide initial designs and plans about the facility, regardless of whether or not nuclear material has been introduced. The agreements specify that such an action will trigger a program of access to the site, along with design verification inspections, by the IAEA.

Note that the agreements do not require the presence of nuclear material on site to trigger the required notification and subsequent inspections.

Iran's secret Qom facility is illegal and continues to violate the agreements that Iran signed. These are the agreements which Ahmadinejad has assured us for years that Iran has upheld.
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angrycarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:27 AM
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11. Is it just me or is the media going crazy on Iran lately.
The last time I saw this many scary stories on Iran GWB was trying to get support to bomb them into the stone age.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:27 AM
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12. Exactly the same feeling
It also reminds me of the build-up for the war with Iraq.

And why not? We still have the Bush DOD.
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Mosby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:28 AM
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13. Iran Is Warned Over Nuclear ‘Deception’
Source: NYT

PITTSBURGH — President Obama and the leaders of Britain and France accused Iran on Friday of building a secret underground plant to manufacture nuclear fuel, saying the country has hidden the covert operation from international weapons inspectors for years.

Appearing before reporters in Pittsburgh, Mr. Obama said that the Iranian nuclear program “represents a direct challenge to the basic foundation of the nonproliferation regime.” President Nicolas Sarkozy of France said that Iran had a deadline of two months to comply with international demands or face increased sanctions.

“The level of deception by the Iranian government, and the scale of what we believe is the breach of international commitments, will shock and anger the entire international community,” Prime Minister Gordon Brown of Britain said. “The international community has no choice today but to draw a line in the sand.”

The extraordinary and hastily arranged joint appearance by the three leaders — and Mr. Obama said that Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany had asked him to convey that she stood with them as well — adds urgency to the diplomatic confrontation with Iran over its suspected ambition to build a nuclear weapons capacity. The three men demanded that Iran allow the International Atomic Energy Agency to conduct an immediate inspection of the facility, which is said to be 100 miles southwest of Tehran, near the holy city of Qum.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/26/world/middleeast/26nuke.html?pagewanted=1&ref=middleeast
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:28 AM
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14. Well, if I had a trio of nuclear powers rattling sabers at me...
I'd be building my shit underground, too
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:28 AM
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15. Good point. But
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 04:48 PM by Ghost Dog
latest I heard, it would cost the Brits

several days to actually

define any target program the equipment and...

actually pull the trigger,

don't you know, my good man.

(that's if it still works).
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:28 AM
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16. Oh, pure bullshit. There's no way Iran would do this and if they
admit it, it's a false confession. After all, in Dec 2007, DU was all lit up celebrating the National Intelligence Estimate that disagreed with Bush, and now President Obama contradicts the NIE? Pure bullshit, the media is faking the President making these accusations against Iran - he would never take Bush's side against Iran. The Neocons are behind these false broadcasts of SNL actors pretending to be the President.

Read the real truth, written here in December 2007:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2397223
Report contradicts Bush on Iran nuclear program

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3087773
Breaking News: U.S. Report Says Iran Nuclear Weapons Threat Overstated

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2397468
Iran Nuke Program Halted in 2003

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2397696
National Intelligence Estimate..that Iran is not into the NUKE thing...Comment from TPM...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x324628
Ray McGovern: A Miracle: Honest Intel on Iran Nukes


Did the National Intelligence Council give into pressure to pull punches on Iran and who pressured them?

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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 05:28 AM
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17. M. Valjean nails it. ;)
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 07:07 AM
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18. Mercy boo-coops, M. Psephos! -jvj n/t
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 08:35 AM
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19. The right wing is going to complain that Obama didn't do this fast enough
I saw this talking point premier on The Ed Show last night. Obama knew about the covert site in late 2008 but it wasn't until just this week where additional info came to light and he was able to get Brown and Sarkozy on board as well. The crazies feel acting unilaterally faster would have been stronger than having this joint statement. :eyes:
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-26-09 03:09 PM
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22. 'Armed with the disclosure'
Edited on Sat Sep-26-09 03:09 PM by sabrina 1
What disclosure? Where is the evidence? I heard Obama say they would not take 'military action off the table'.

The neocons are still working behind the scenes, Cheney and his cabal never gave up on a war with Iran.

Sounds like the 'disclosures' about Iraq. Another 'Niger Documents' scenario. That would be tragic, if Obama goes along with this. If the Israelis want to bomb Iran, let them do on their own and take the consequences. They are the only ones I've heard threatening to attack anyone.
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