White House Calls Out Fox By Name For Lying

Source: Talking Points Memo

In a new post on the official White House blog, http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/Reality-Check-Turning-a-Point-of-Pride-into-a-Moment-of-Shame/ an administration official specifically names Fox News for lying about the administration's push to bring the Olympics to Chicago.

"Last night Fox News continued its disregard for the facts," the post begins, "in an attempt to smear the Administration's efforts to win the Olympics for the United States."

The author, White House online programs director Jesse Lee, goes on to point out several quotes from Glenn Beck, which it says are lies, and the truth behind them. ("Rhetoric: Beck said Vancouver lost $1 billion when it 'had the Olympics.' ... Reality: Vancouver's Olympics Will Not Take Place Until 2010.")

"In the past, hosting the Olympics has been a source of pride and unity for the country, but once again Fox News' Glenn Beck program has shown that nothing is worthy of respect if it can be used as part of a partisan attack to boost ratings," Lee writes.

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:rofl:

I know Glenn Beck is ultimately going to implode and get carted away to a mental hospital or get treated for a burst anyeurism, but the sooner the better and this might just do it.

His insurance company should realize that it's a pre-existing condition that he refused to disclose to them.

This was either last night or the night before---cannot remember who the anchor was (since they're all the same)---maybe O'Lielly?

The FAUX douchbags are the worst liars in the world. :puke: :grr:

It's the public OPTION, stupid. :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

Maybe that'll be how he tries to restore his credibility: by claiming he's from the future and knows how everything is going to turn out.

So even people who are really from the future have a hard time getting the olympics predictions right.

If you have no idea what this is in reference to, look up John Titor on Wikipedia :)

He already claims that.

doom doom doom doom!

Vancouver lost during their Winter Olympics,

which open February 12, 2010.

:rofl:

I think the right wing has put itself on the edge of a cliff... And it's to give them a push...

How?

From the University of " I don't know "
Name your source Becky or your shit is bull- O- Nee,
NO MORE TEARS......

Fox fired an anchor who refused to lie on air. She sued, and lost. The judge ruled news outlets have the right to outright lie to the American public.

It isn't just Fox either. All the major networks filed briefs in the case in support of Fox.

However, that's probably the single biggest thing we could do to save the nation: call out the liars and take away their megaphones.

http://www.earcandleproductions.com/Atlas_Wept.swf

need flash player won't work on iphones.

this is clearly open and approved corruption.

Freeze their assets, have them arrested, tossed in jail for life. Arrest their lawyers so they don't have anything to yabber about.

They've abused the airwaves long enough.

They are poison to the American people.

While we're at it, let's yank Clear Channel's license for letting Fatty Fatburger and Guile Dreck spew their shit on the air.

I know this - my father is affected.

Hawkeye-X

Someone yank their FCC license.

FOX has destroyed this country. I'm sick of their baloney.

My family hasn't even met or visited us since I had my daughter three years ago because I don't believe everything FOX spews and questioned some of their reporting. WTF? FOX is poison.

That's what it is. Not real news.

..it's their huge loss..but, I know that doesn't help.

Their garbage is causing family rifts all over the nation. And Faux wants more of it. It appears what they really want is a civil war.

You know you are in the right, but it doesn't help much when families are broken apart over politics.

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While I agree with your point that there's a first amendment protection. However, Fox is selling a product and that product is presenting the public with the news. Since they knowingly and intentionally lie about and distort the news, they then therefore are guilty of committing fraud and the Constitution doesn't protect fraud.

If I were Obama I would make reference to this fact when I suspend Fox personal from any access to the White House, namely White House press conferences.

BTW, I am a staunch supporter of, and the reasons for, the second amendment. Just thought I'd add that.


Peace,
Xicano

he needs to ask himself "would God approve of my hate smearing lies". His church needs to reel him in because he is sure giving them a bad name!

Where in the Constitution does it say one is able to demonstrably lie in order to foment public unrest against the legitimately elected government of this nation, and its office holders?

You also agree that throwing innocent lawyers in jail for representing them is also Constitutional? You are right disgraceful isn't the right word despicable and disgustingly fascist is a much better description of those thoughts.

Re-read the post. I posed a question you didn't seem fit to answer.

Typical, for you.

There are punishments for breaking those laws. Life in prison without trial and jailing the lawyers that would represent the defendents is not in keeping with our Constitution. I'm having trouble understanding what is so hard to understand about this and I'm definitely having trouble with Democrats defending such fascist behavior.

"Freeze their assets, have them arrested, tossed in jail for life. Arrest their lawyers so they don't have anything to yabber about."

Feel free to defend the Constitutionality of the above quote, I'd love to see your rationalization.

Always seems to be either-or these days...

"Then, sir, order the FCC to yank their license to broadcast. Freeze their assets, have them arrested, tossed in jail for life. Arrest their lawyers so they don't have anything to yabber about."


He is advocating arresting peoples lawyers for defending their right to Habeas Corpus. It's pretty clear to me, feel free to defend the statement.

They don't use the "public airwaves", and are not regulated by the FCC.

I dislike FOX as much as anyone else, but government censorship is not the answer.
It is never the answer.

We need to find other ways to counter FOX (and other propaganda outlets).
Public ridicule is good.
Going after their advertisers is another.

have any kind of jurisdiction over a cable station?

Their lies and propaganda bring in so much money in tax breaks and friendly legal decisions that can lose billions per year in ad revenue and still be in the black.

Public ridicule? How exactly is that going to help?

No, getting them off the air one way or another is the only thing that will save America from Fox "News" and hate radio.

All I see is some sort-of tough talk on a blog post- I dont see anyone even hinting at such far-reaching acts.

Or did he use that favorite DC term--"mis-spoke"?

just askin..
:shrug:


Just for once I would love to see their broadcast licence revoked.. better yet, have the
IRS investigate their taxes..

the point is for the White House to go on record and rebutt their lies so the people can see the facts for themselves.

When Color For Change (if I got the name right) went after Glenn Beck's advertisers with a boycott. It started to work until Beck went after the founder Van Jones with a vengence. And we all know what happened after that, unfortunately. Don't underestimate the enemy.

then it's easy to sway them further when their priest/minister tells them that Obama's evil ...

More than some may relize. But numbers don't threaten me so......

but they dont, its a cable channel...

My guess is that half of the folks at FOX news-and certainly their viewers- do not even know that this internet text exists.

Give those egomaniacal losers the attention they think they deserve.

facts out there and it's about time.

lie fauxmedia puts out. Like the quick response during the campaigns.

This is war and glen beck is taking over limpbaugh as the stupidhead of the gop.

Faux is the head of the hydra. If all Dems quit going on the network it would lose any credibility it has left. It needs to be called out as often as possible as the right wing propaganda machine that it is. Soon the Beck, Hannity, O'Leilly and the pairs of brain dead bimbos they put on will be so far out of touch with whats really going on in the country that they will lose what little influence they have left over geriatrics. We need to use Cheneys screwy technique of manufacturing our own reality away from theirs. Eventually they won't be relevant. The sooner we sink em the better. Exposing their lies directly is a big step. Obama needs to call em out by name every interview. Define the opposition as the nutjobs they really are. Now is the time. Call out O'Leilly for the sexual harrassment. Call out Liddy and North for their crimes. Call out Limbaugh for his drug crimes. Now is the time.

Beck and fux and the rest of those you-know-whats, use "freedom of speech" to say whatever they want. I know beck is mental, and he probably doesn't know shit about Canada and the Vancouver Olympics, but I find it hard to believe that. The thing is, he is in a position to make up anything he damn well feels like. He KNOWS it's a lie, but he and the rest of them know that there are ignoids out there that will believe anything they say. That's why they make it up! And that smarmy little piece of asscrap sits there gleefully puking lies out day after day, hell, he don't give a shit! He's getting rich!

I love his style. :bounce:

Do you sense a counter attack coming? I hope we hear more form him, tells it like it is....and better than I have ever heard! "
You want death panels... well, we already have em, and the republicans (and bluedogs) condone them and insist on them continuing" is basically what he was saying..... cool:headbang:

Other than Grayson, Howard Dean and Al Franken the rest are mild mannered.

I'm reading Senator Kennedy's book right now ~ now he was strong!

So far, Grayson is the winner in my book now because he did not back down one bit!

deliberate technique to conceal or limit the control of legitimate information. Fox seeks to limit legitimate discourse and offers conflicting information and conclusions that seem to support to the claims. They dump lots of stuff that can be almost immediately disproved on the air waves in a way that it actually controls group think. I don't hear many Fox viewers going "this is bullshit", when some of the outrageous claims are shoved out there. Disinformation or deliberate misinformation is designed to control and influence political discourse. Fox uses a preplanned broadcasting technique, remember how they spewed forth the Republican talking point or the * administration. It was like some said the fax machine was directly hooked up to the broadcast boot.

It's really refreshing to see someone else using the correct definition of the propaganda they are spewing, I've been getting pissed with everyone calling it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misinformation">misinfomation.

Just added you to my Buddies list.

:toast:

Nor does it mean you don't have to take responsibility for that speech. If you slander someone, they have the right to sue you. You don't have the freedom to slander someone.
If you say something that causes harm, say, inciting a violent act or getting someone fired because of a private opinion or non-criminal confidence, you can be prosecuted for it.
No where does anyone have the freedom to break the law with their speech. And no where does anyone have the freedom to not take responsibility for their actions, including speech.

The first Amendment gets misquoted all the time.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Couple that with wording within the Constitution concerning treason, levying or promoting insurrection or rebellion, and "speech" promoting the overthrow of a legally elected government really does not seem to be protected under the First Amendment, no more than "speech" inciting riot or "vigilante" violence against a specific person or legal organization is.

Haele

Are those pictures of your kitties? they're sweet! Watch it though, I just saw a pic here tonite of GW Bush eating a kitty! If I knew how to post pics, I'd put Melvyn up here... My cat

I wish that one fo these days Faux News will get its plug pulled!

It's about time. :thumbsup:

it always gets ripped out. I really don't expect this time to be any different.

That is what Bullies do.

Most people received "good home training" and try to ignore Bullies.

Bullies know that and make the most of it.

I am reminded of a strong willed Boss of mine...
He was speaking to an outside assembly of nearly 300 people, including young children.

A Bumble Bee started buzzing around his head as he was getting into the main part of his Speech.

All of a sudden he looked at the Bumble Bee and said, "Bumble Bee GO HOME!!"

I can still see that Bee flying off into the next block!

I say all that to say, sometimes you have to look right at the enemy and "Say it like you MEAN IT!"

That's what I love about Grayson, he had his charts and didn't stutter!

When they tried to mess with him again ~ he told them again in ABC language that he meant business!

:bounce:

That always puts them in their place.

every time they lie. Now we would require several new Czars because it would be a huge job. :rofl:

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You'd think CNN would jump at the chance to show Faux News for what they really are, but it probably won't happen.

Fox has been lying to the American people since day one, and CNN did nothing about it.

FAUX lied about their coverage of the freeper/teabagger march. They were insulted that FAUX lied that they hadn't covered it, when, in fact, they were on the scene and giving plenty of facetime to the wingnuts. Completely useless so-called "news" outlet.

If DEMS want this text to be actual soundbytes in the the cable & network echo chamber, they know which shows they can get their PR people to book them on.

I'm not convinced that DEMS really want to take this fight past a few "red meat" blog posts aimed at the DEM base.

that's what propaganda is

Keep calling 'em out! :headbang:

unload a dump truck full of fetid horse shit at Fox headquarters' front door. Murdoch and his propaganda shills should be charged with sedition and water boarded.

Sorry.
(Probably they should but that's a legal matter)

existing lines? and wire into our homes to deliver lies? I'm genuinely ignorant about this. I thought FCC covered the corporations not the method?

Also, if the FCC doesn't regulate, is there a way Dems can use that to an advantage? Perhaps this question is too far spreading - but why not fight back on cable?

If xxx company spends 886 thousand in advertisements and it is paid to xxx network, do they say use 400 thousand on FOX news and the balance on Fox cable or are they separate contracts? Of do they buy ads strictly by programs - what was the outcome of all those companies pulling money from Beck?

I'm not sure what I'm getting at, but there must be some sponsors who would be willng to help a Dem cable company get off the ground? What was it exactly that Al Gore gave up on - cable of FCC?

There are no regulations for cable?

Fox will eventually be considered the "lying news channel" among most (rational) Americans. If you want real news, tune in somewhere else.

Nice work- keep it up. make it stick.

"It is the LIEin' Station."

You would not be saying anything but the truth.
As someone pointed out, CNN can't say they LIE because they want to get some of their listeners.

They wouldn't say it for another reason,they are really Pals.

WE can say it every chance we get and I do ~

I was in the Bank the other day and as is the case since GW took office, FOX "NEWS?" was on their television screen.

I walked over to the manager and said " I wanted to make a deposit,this is my $$$ check."

I looked him dead in the eye and said "FOX LIES,I'll take this money to my other bank,call me when FOX LIES is not on to ruin my day."

Wish you could have seen his face. :bounce:

We don't have to carry signs, we just ned totell the truth anytime we get the chance.

n/t

Foxed-up Nooz embarrasses itself once again. This time, so badly that even the WH took a clear shot at their chin - landing a left cross which has caused those fools to stagger back across the ring. About time the WH hit back!

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

n/t

I am in the same situation as you are, and I see that there are others here as well in this situation. I had to leave a family gathering due to the absolute nonsense that was being 'discussed'. I haven't attended another as they are pretty much Faux viewers and Lou Dobbs quoters as well. It does become tiresome, and it is so very unnecessary for we as families, and as a country. It does nothing but weaken what we all need to do and that is to bring this country around where all are considered equal and worthy.

I sincerely hope that this will happen in my lifetime.

now about yanking their license for trying to get people on the left killed... and for inciting any American sentiments by dividing this country the way they have.

those yahoos!

:rofl:

Either that or he'll show up for his show drunk.

This from one taking care of my mom with Alzheimer's. I see parallels with Bleck.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U88kA15HOq4

We can start with Hinchey's (badly named) MORA ACT (Media Ownership Reform Act): http://www.house.gov/hinchey/issues/mora.shtml

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FOX Cable TV is nothing but a right wing noise machine.
Hmm. Great bumper sticker.

they are rooting for other countries..

they are still paying for it.

First, the Olympics are held every 4 years, not every two years. Second, there have only been two other Olympic games held in Canada - Montreal in 1976 (summer) and Calgary in 1988 (winter), they've never been held in Vancouver before or anywhere else in British Columbia.

still totally clueless, I see

Is this being being repeated by Top DEMS in front of cameras & microphones, you know- where swing voters can hear it?

Has there been any additional effort by DEM officials to get this discussion going in the echo chamber, or is this just more "for base/bloggers eyes only" red meat?

Is this just the usual type of "statement" or "release" that we get all worked up over for nothing? You know, like a "strongly worded letter" from Harry Reid to Bush or whatever?

My larger question is: What is the follow up on this, beyond some blog text that mostly DEM loyalists are viewing & discussing?

I'm not convinced that DEMS really want to take this fight past a few "red meat" blog posts aimed at the DEM base.

If so, there's your next step right there: pull their credentials. Since those news conferences are for news organizations, and Faux is demonstrably NOT a news organization, there's no earthly reason for them being there. Yank their access, let it be known that you did, and just sit back and let them fume.

That's it. Cut off their access, and let them say anything they want. They can rename themselves as "The GOP Channel" if they're so inclined. Who cares? They'd be considered as nothing more than an "entertainment" channel for the Bottom-Feeders soon enough.

But from that day forth, they would not be treated as a legitimate news organization by the WH. Make 'em a laughing stock.

I'm sure the Colbert Report would love to have an official White House correspondent. And the press conferences would never be dull.

LIE MACHINE :puke:

I agree, it's not funny. Very serious matter that no teacher could get through to Bleck. :puke:

That's exactly what Fox is doing... on a grand scale. They are inciting panic, and real violence based on their fabrications. This is a serious issue. This is modern day Yellow Journalism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism
Every major US network is guilty to some degree or another, but FOX is leading the charge. Iraq was not the first media driven war. Newspaper mogul William Randolf Hearst played a significant role in the launch of the Spanish American War. It's our duty as citizens to take action against unethical journalism because it is quite literally a threat to the National Security of the United States.

The problem with enforcing against Fox is that it could just as easily turn around and bite us in the ass. There is no law made by us that couldn't be abused by republicans in the future.

If heaven forbid if, years from now, Sarah kriffing Palin ends up getting elected, she could revoke the licenses of legitimate news organizations because she doesn't like what they say about her.

I can't think of any type of legislation that could be used against us later. Not to mention any Congressional Democrat even thinks it there will be outcries of "SOCIALIST CENSORSHIP, blah, blah, COMMUNIST OPPRESSION, blah, NAZI, blah, FASCIST, blah, blahbity, blah blah..TAKING AWAY OUR FREE SPEECH!!"

There is another way. Whether they show it or not, Fox has been under a lot of pressure from it sponsors over Glen Beck's antics. We could turn up the heat with e-mail campaigns to the rest of Fox's sponsors and back them up with boycotts of the ones that continue to back the station. The best way to counter these greedy bastards is to hit them in their wallets.

Doesn't matter how good their ratings are, what's the point of advertising on a popular channel if you end up losing your half your customers over it. If half the country threatens to boycott, the sponsors will pull out, and spend their add dollars on more politically neutral networks.

I think it is possible, but that it would need to be crafted well, and the offense would need to be rooted in provable facts rather than mere opinion. I favor laws which address 1) the persistent use of known falsehoods 2) spread using a limited access medium (broadcast or cable, but not internet or print) 3) which uses public airwaves (broadcast) or highway right-of-ways (cable) 4) with the intent to manipulate public opinion 5) (and make it an aggravated offense if the manipulation is done for personal gain or to promote violence)

If you can't prove persistent use of known falsehoods, you can't stick the charges. Sure, you can just file them anyway, like Rove's favorite district atty's, but they won't stick.

Beck is a ridiculous liar but this is not something to call him out on because his overall point is actually right. The Olympics are money losers and taxpayers shouldn't be subsidizing this. Just as they shouldn't fund sports stadiums/arenas. He was probably mixing up Vancouver with Montreal, which did lose an estimated $1B and took 20 years to recover from.

A lie is a lie- and Beck lied- even still, you might have a point in that they should attack Beck over a more important issue- like the Public Option. He has lied about the Public Option many times.

One of my 1st thoughts was: Well, it's great to call them liars- but interesting that the issue is over the olympics, not something more important.

My second thought was: So what? This is just a blog post- it means nothing.

...to describe ourselves accurately is patriotic; likewise, the right wing should be labeled, with equal accuracy, as unpatriotic.

the jerks that spew their bs on fox and the other cable clowns,are doing a disservice to our country,wake up America,its morning in America and there are too many asleep at the switch.