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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:53 PM
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Microsoft releases biggest patch on record
Source: Reuters

SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp issued its biggest software patch on record on Tuesday to fix a range of security issues in its programs, including the yet to be released Windows 7 operating system.

In a monthly update sent to users of its software, Microsoft released 13 security bulletins, or patches, to address 34 vulnerabilities it identified across its Windows, Internet Explorer, Silverlight, Office and other products.

It said six of the patches were high priority and should be deployed immediately. The patches -- which update software to write over glitches -- are designed to protect users from hackers or malicious software downloaded from the Internet.

Several of the patches affect Windows 7, the software maker's new operating system, which will be officially unveiled next week, but has been widely used in test versions.


Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE59C5EJ20091013
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:57 PM
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1. B, but Windows 7 was supposed to be DIFFERENT! nt
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:01 PM
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3. Everything new from Microsoft is a step backward.
When will they simply introduce the Microsoft PATCH Operating System?
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:05 PM
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4. All software, except for the most trivial, has bugs that needs to be patched.
I would be more concerned if they were not releasing patches. Take a look at any open source project and you will just as many security patches released.
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Aragorn Donating Member (784 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:28 PM
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9. hence
the Apache servers. Get it?
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:44 PM
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23. Well, that's true. But open source products don't have giant multi-
billion dollar operations behind them.

I'm looking forward to a Linux flavor that's user friendly, and it's getting closer and closer.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:24 AM
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31. I've been using Linux for nearly two years. It's friendly.
First Debian Linux and now, Ubuntu. Everything I need is included. For free.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:48 PM
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42. Does Ubuntu really include everything?
I thought that Ubuntu does not ship with proprietary audio and video codecs, among other things.
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 10:49 PM
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47. I haven't found anything I can't play (though I tend to use the Divx enabled DVD player for that).
You can manually install different a/v players and each seems to come equipped with a variety of codecs. If I can't play a file with one app, one of the other three will work.

All of my a/v applications take a far smaller byte of my HDD than a single installed instance of Windows Media Player or Real Player, and I don't feel I have to worry about any of them being spyware (which I've never been able to say about any of the Windoze products which seem to be online at all time and, I suspect, reporting on every file on the HDD).

If you've got an old PC laying around, check out Ubuntu. My dual boot setup was a bit wonky and MS kept deleting the Linux install with every upgrade (quelle suprise).
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tXr Donating Member (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 04:12 PM
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43. Linux Mint is very user friendly.
The most recent distro, Mint 7, is based on Ubuntu 9.04.

I recently reformatted an Acer netbook, deleting the OEM XP and transitioning to Mint.

Everything worked flawlessly - after installation all I had to do was enter the WEP key for the wireless and I was up and running.

VERY impressive.

http://www.linuxmint.com
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:25 PM
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32. True, even my OSX Mini gets patches and updates from Apple.
It's a normal thing in the software world.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:34 PM
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10. Yes it would be better if they just left the bugs unpatched.
:crazy:
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:04 PM
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16. Yeah, and I thought this version was going to be called "Windows-Hasta La Vista." n/t
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 04:58 PM
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2. Obviously, the patches failed, since I can still log in to the internets!
Neener! Neener! :bounce:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:05 PM
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5. windows SUCKS!!
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:26 PM
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8. Apple BLOWS!!
Linux ROCKS!! :headbang:
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:44 PM
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11. i agree... i have ubuntu and windows currently.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:53 PM
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13. I have all 3 and I prefer Linix hands down
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:07 PM
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17. Puppy Linux is slicker than greased guano!
Check it out. It's so fast. If you have a Pentium III with 256MB RAM, it'll load EVERYTHING into RAM! EVERYTHING!!! Operating system, AND applications. It's only 200MB on disk, and screams on old hardware. Check it out at http://www.puppylinux.org
It's my fave distro of Linux.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:42 PM
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22. cool.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:00 PM
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14. Uhh, OS X IS essentially Linux!
Free-BSD is essentially Linux, and OS/X is Free-BSD with a shiny X-server in front of it.
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:12 PM
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19. I don't want a "shiny X-server in front of it" ...
and I don't want a Linux ripoff, thank you very bloody much.

CODE OR DIE!!
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:46 PM
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24. There's no such thing as a "linux rip off". That's part of the point of the OS.
Everyone is free to do what they want with it.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 01:08 PM
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34. Actually, BSD is freer than Linux.
You can download FreeBSD and do anything you want with it, including reselling it to make a billion dollars the way Apple did. Linux, on the other hand, comes with strings requiring source code releases, restrictions on hardware dependencies, limitations on certain uses, etc. In fact, the GNU GPL license, which makes Linux "free", is twelve printed pages long and is full of rules, restrictions, and caveats. The copyright for BSD, in comparison, is two paragraphs long and boils down to two simple concepts: "1. You are responsible for any damage you do with this software. 2. If you release any derivative source to the public, it must also be BSD licensed"

BSD is a "free" operating system.
Linux is a "greater good of mankind" operating system.
There is room for both, but one shouldn't be confused for the other.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:31 PM
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39. As if Linux isn't a Unix ripoff.
:rofl:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. Um, no.
BSD, even Free BSD kernels predate Linux by a considerable amount of time.

-Hoot
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 12:56 PM
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33. I know dozens of geeks who would beat your ass for that comment.
BSD predates Linux and is a real UNIX distro that was written by real commercial developers including IBM. Linux was created later by Torvalds as an IP free "clone" of BSD and the other *nixes that would be released under the newer GNU license. Linux was created to imitate BSD, and enforce a more open environment at the same time.

More importantly, Linux would not exist today if not for BSD. The functionality of the modern *nix environment was largely developed within the SunOS and ULTRIX environments, which were both BSD derivatives. Those environments gave us many of the applications and conventions which became standard in the UNIX world, and which were later copied by Torvalds.

Linux is an upstart ripoff compared to the storied history of BSD. Claiming that "Free-BSD is essentially Linux" is both insulting to those who helped to develop the *nix platforms, and displays a serious lack of education about the history of Linux computing.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 01:29 PM
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37. Sorry, I stand corrected.
I knew that, just that BSD and Linux are so similar, it's easy to confuse them.
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:30 PM
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38. I'd rather get blown than have a rock.
.. At my age, getting blown by Apple is as good as I can get.;)
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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:13 PM
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6. LOL the HUGE pack is about 10 megs >< n/t
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:25 PM
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20. Ubuntu updates are larger. The first one after install is always gigantic.
But nobody mentions it because everything's free and that's disruptive to the market.

What I want is for WINE to be perfect and game developers to write for OpenGL as well as DirectX. Then we can all walk away from Micro$oft once and for all.


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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:23 PM
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7. I just updated mine it took 11... Mostly security updates.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 05:51 PM
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12. (sigh) Reuters hits the panic button (39 MB for XP is not a huge patch)
includes Office patches.



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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:03 PM
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15. Not Really, XP Service Pack 3 was bigger.
And some MS Office Service Packs were bigger.
I will admit that Windoze DOES suck, but it pays the bills.
Oh, and BTW- It was 18 bulletins, not 13.

The truth is, you can't patch poop with poop. It just falls apart, which is why they keep trying to write better software every year and a half or so.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 07:26 PM
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21. Was it always poop, or did it biodegrade? n/t
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 06:11 PM
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18. biggest?
it was 10 megs.... now if you meant to say this patch was one of the more critical patches, than maybe I'd understand.

"34 vulnerabilities.

"In a monthly update sent to users of its software, Microsoft released 13 security bulletins, or patches,{b} to address 34 vulnerabilities it identified across its Windows, Internet Explorer, Silverlight, Office and other products."

Now that sounds bad, but the title sounds worse.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:12 PM
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25. Yep, it's a copy of OS X. It fixes everything.
:D
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-13-09 08:40 PM
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26. Windows haters are funny. I love Windows, wether it be Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7
Edited on Tue Oct-13-09 08:40 PM by no limit
How wonderful to be able to simply plug something in and it works like it's supposed to. But I guess convenience isn't appreciated by everyone.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:34 AM
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28. Most flavors of Linux these days work the same way.
Ubuntu, Open Suse, and others are just that, plug and play, not plug and pray, as is Windoze.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:22 AM
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29. Plug and pray? What is this, 1995?
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 08:23 AM by high density
If you want to slam Windows on something, targeting its vast peripheral support seems like an idiotic place to begin.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 01:25 PM
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35. That's funny, I just plugged in a USB drive that I have plugged into this Windoze box
at least 100 times, and it says that it needs a driver. I plug it into another Windoze box, and it doesn't... That's what I mean by plug and pray. BTW -- Both machines are of the XP flavor.
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 11:00 AM
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30. I can't take you seriously if you think linux is more plug and play friendly than windows
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 11:01 AM by no limit
I've used OpenSuse 11 as well as Ubuntu.

You won't hear me bashing linux for server applications(especially web servers) but anyone that believes Linux is a good home use solution is lying to him/herself.

And all this hype with Macs is just that, hype. It's why you will find many Mac users having to run windows under a virtual machine.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 01:27 PM
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36. I dunno, I have given away used PCs with Ubuntu and/or Puppy on them,
and nobody has complained that they didn't work, or that something that they plugged in didn't work. True, most of them have only plugged in a USB drive, but as I mentioned in a previous post, I just plugged in a USB drive into one XP box, and it asked me to load a driver. Unplug it, and put it into another XP box, and it doesn't. Plug it back in the original one, and VOILA! no driver needed! Go figure!?
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Touchdown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:45 PM
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40. You know what pisses me off about the Linux cult?
I thought belonging to the Apple cult was the best loony I could get! It's a cheat! You guys are way more insane than us!

I feel like a Methodist in a Pentecostal world.:cry:
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 03:46 PM
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41. That security update was ridiculously large.
One of the Microsoft Office security updates I installed yesterday was more than 250 MB all by itself. How do they expect someone with limited bandwidth to handle that? My 3G connection has a 5 GB per month bandwidth limit. So those Microsoft security updates take a big big chunk of that.

I wish they could just make their products secure in the first place so that they don't have to continuously do these large bandwidth intensive security updates.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:01 PM
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44. I have windows Xp what happens to us?
I haven't received a patch. :shrug:
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ManiacJoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 08:18 PM
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45. Lots of XP stuff gets patched.
If you do not have AutoUpdates turned on, go get them manually at
http://update.microsoft.com
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midnight armadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 09:40 PM
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46. The Microsoft patch isn't working on my Ubuntu desktop.
It's version 9.04, am I doing something wrong?
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