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YBR31 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:03 PM
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Race discrimination at Chicago bar during senior class trip
Source: Washington University Student Life

Around 200 Washington University students participated in a protest this morning in Chicago in response to what is being called an act of racial discrimination that occurred at Mother’s Night Club Original bar Saturday night.
Six black University students were denied entry into the bar, even though approximately 200 other members of the senior class had already been allowed in.

The trip to the bar was part of the Senior Class Council-sponsored trip to Chicago.
Two of the students rejected from the nightclub were Iboro Umana and Regis Murayi, the internal vice president and treasurer of Senior Class Council, respectively.
According to a press release from Senior Class President Fernando Cutz, the six black students were told they were not allowed into the bar because of their failure to comply with its “baggy jeans” policy. A few white students who had already been admitted then came out to demonstrate that their jeans were more “baggy,” but the black students were still denied admission.

The black students offered to change their clothes, but the bar manager said they would still not be let in, as he did not think they were “trustworthy,” the press release said. The white students were allowed to return to the bar.

Read more: http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/18/students-protest-race-discrimination-at-bar-in-chicago-during-senior-class-trip/



This made me ashamed to be a Chicagoan. Guess Chicago isn't post-racist.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:06 PM
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1. The vermin that has crawled out from under the rocks that
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 08:06 PM by Horse with no Name
faux, rush, beck, et al have turned over.
It is purely disgusting--but they no longer have to cower in shame because moral decency doesn't allow them to act the way they want to. Their heroes ENCOURAGE this behavior and it empowers them.
THAT is why they should be pulled off the air--if no other reason (even there are multitudes).
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:06 PM
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2. OMG! They should sue. Damn.
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davidhilton Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:29 PM
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3. it sure saddens me...
cuz i think racism is gonna stay around for awhile.
so sad in 2009 that the ignorant still hate ppl for
the color of their skin. shallow idiots n/t
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:59 PM
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5. Parents have been handing down hate......
generation to generation , it will always be here ( unfortunately ) for a long time ,
There are way too many race-aholics that wont get sober......ever, then borrow a buck for another swig !
They hate the very people that picked the cotton, for their clothes, bedding, and HOODS.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:32 PM
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10. They didn't hate them while they were picking cotton.
They didn't hate them as long as they stayed in their "place". They didn't hate them as long as they believed they had total control over black folk. They didn't hate as long as they chose not to deal with the reality that they are not really superior.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:42 PM
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4. The bar owner is gonna get sued in civil court probably. There is evidence of on-going racism.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:17 PM
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6. They have a whole entertainment district here where a dress code is aimed at keeping blacks out
It must be the latest trend.
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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 06:01 PM
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19. I saw a place the other day with a long list of what people could/couldn't wear
to some extent, it seemed aimed at making sure people come in wearing oversized clothing couldn't hide guns. However, it did say that "Collard Shirts" were okay. We got a chuckle out of that.
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winyanstaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:29 PM
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7. I hope they get their bar pants sued off..
And why didnt the whole class then turn around and walk out?>
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:02 PM
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9. that was my question exactly
Any one of their fellow students who stayed in the bar after finding out about this is partly responsible - it's that kind of behavior that allows this kind of thing to keep happening. As someone else here has just pointed out, it doesn't take a lot of searching to see that this place gets horrible reviews for not only being racist, but also treating customers like crap in general.
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 05:50 PM
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18. That's the real story here.
Assunming of course, the other students were aware of what was going on and are in fact, not prejudiced in the final analysis..........
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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:59 PM
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8. You need to contact the Chgo. press.
This is totally unexceptable.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:52 AM
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26. You don't have to live in Chicago to bring this to the attention of the Chicago media.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 12:16 AM
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11. That is a drag to hear. NYC is way post racist. Last time I was there
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 12:17 AM by earcandle
I shared a table with a stranger in a public restaurant and not only ate, but met and talk story with her.
That was cool.

There is a crispness about NYC that I really love.

I could be graduating now as a Teachers Fellow coming out of NYC and maybe applying for the Communications Manager Role. had my landlord of 25 years not died, and her family illegally evict me. I was so sad for Mary, I really liked her, so I left in good faith,
but perturb they sent an attorney to serve due process. Then I found out they never filed.. They were guilty but the rules were
changing again in the middle of the lawsuit, or so they say, so I settled for about 25% of what I should have gotten for that behavior.

I wish all of the corrupt creeps would just Get Out of the country or go to jail.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:47 AM
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15. NYC has been great ever since they completely gentrified it....
:eyes:
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:59 AM
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29. From someone who actually chose to move from NY to Texas, never passes up an opportunity to diss
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 10:03 AM by No Elephants
NY (except, of course, for Giuliani), but doesn't have a bad word to say about Texas or, for that matter, about many Republicans. A:-)
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:05 AM
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30. Is this a joke?
I live and work in NYC and see racism on a daily basis.

I usually witness 2 or 3 racial incidents just taking the train into work. There's as much racism here as there is anywhere in the US.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 02:54 AM
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12. Based on the online reviews, Mother’s Night Club Original bar seems like a shitty place
really really bad reviews.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:56 AM
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28. There is something incestuous about the name, don't you think? Creepy.
I never ever ever understood the appeal, but then again, I'm not heterosexual. So, that's probably why. :rofl:
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 02:00 PM
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34. yeah weird name
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 04:40 PM
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35. Unless it's a MILF bar
:)
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BennyD Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:12 AM
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13. What I have discovered in my travels
is that discrimination, bigotry, and prejudice are alive and well in places many think they are not. As someone who have traveled around this country, I can tell you that the southern U.S. gets a lot of bad press on this subject - as though that's all we are down here, when in fact, most of us don't hold these disgusting views of our fellow Americans. By contrast, places like Chicago and Philly don't get near enough bad press for the bigotry that still exists in their states.
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:41 AM
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38. I sometimes wonder if just plain nastyness is mistaken for racism
Edited on Thu Oct-22-09 11:41 AM by mule_train
i've been at countless places in my life where people are just plain nasty for no reason

and I'm a clean cut wasp-ish looking straight guy

i wonder if a black guy walked in the exact same place after me, got the exact same treatment might think it's racist?

i'm not saying i'd blame him for thinking that, i'm just wondering how often it happens?
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YBR31 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 07:52 PM
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39. It isn't wasn't just plain nastyness is mistaken for racism
An indication that it was not an issue of dress code but of possible racism is that shortly later, one of the black kids, Regis Murayi gave his pants to a white student, Jordan Roberts. Jordan put the pants on. Jordan is significantly smaller, so the pants were even longer & baggier on him and he was admitted to the club, no questions asked.There's a picture of it posted on the school newspaper website.
http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/21/flyers-protesting-mothers-bar/
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mule_train Donating Member (611 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 08:32 PM
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40. i'm not talking about this specific incident, but more about your travels
and i'm not passing judgement either

in the example i gave, how would one know it's not racism, if he didnt see the white guy get them same treatment an hour earlier?
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MARALE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:41 AM
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14. My sis-in-law is from Chicago
And is a big racist. It is very alive and well in Chicago. She is a Con as well. She is fine with black people as long as they stay on their side of the city.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 09:53 AM
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27. there are plenty of them here. some in pockets of their own, others here in
my hood, which is the most diverse zip code on the planet. (seriously, i am told this repeatedly.) lots of pockets of all white folks who will have a fit at the words "subsidized housing". and now, thanks to the internets, they can get together even when there are only a handful of them in the whole neighborhood.
http://theurbancoaster.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=519&Itemid=103

rush street bars, tho, have a long history of keeping people out based more on the perception of the amount of jingle in their pockets than anything else. they are really not stupid enough to keep people out based on the color of their skin, however much they might want to.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:48 AM
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16. Post-racist? Look around.
This is the United States. Much to our discredit, there is no post-racist.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:04 PM
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22. Perhaps not but we have come a long way
When i was a kid archie bunker was one of the top shows on tv, Watch an episode of that some time it says a lot about how far we have come just in my lifetime. We aren't there yet to be sure but we are getting closer every day and progress is being made.
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man4allcats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 10:08 PM
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23. I watched "All In The Family" too.
Edited on Mon Oct-19-09 10:15 PM by man4allcats
It was an excellent show. It showed us just how far we had yet to go back then, and though we have indeed made some preliminary steps since that time, we still have a long journey ahead of us. In fact, in many ways Carroll O'Connor's Archie was, for all his faults, a far better person than the rabid racists and/or fundamentalist Christians we see today who are more than ready to kill anyone who disagrees with them. In 1966 when I graduated from high school in small town Texas, the idea of a black man as U.S. President was unthinkable. Now a smart, charismatic black man holds that office, and he gets four times the daily death threats that his bumbling, ignorant, white predecessor got, and that's just the "newsworthy" racism. I will agree that this country has made some progress, but we are a far, far cry from post-racist. I really miss Archie. In his own strange and rather twisted way, he taught or at least tried, often in spite of himself, to teach us a lot. I regret to say that even now these thirty-odd years hence, it seems we've not yet learned those lessons well.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:06 AM
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31. Archie Bunker was intended to portray an extreme. So was "Meathead."
But, I have met many who would feel right at home at the bar bending elbows and sharing ugly remarks with Archie.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 09:26 AM
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17. Do we know more than this or are we jumping to conclusions?
We're nailing the bar owners for jumping to conclusions, let's not do the same.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 04:13 AM
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36. Don't start that apologist shit. This is more cut and dry than the swim club ordeal.
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 04:16 AM by JTFrog
A few white students who had already been admitted then came out to demonstrate that their jeans were more “baggy,” but the black students were still denied admission.

The black students offered to change their clothes, but the bar manager said they would still not be let in, as he did not think they were “trustworthy,” the press release said.


I think that's pretty fucked up, how about you?

Oh, and just as the swim club was found guilty, I certainly hope these folks get smacked with a huge :wtf: is wrong with you fine or put out of business completely.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:00 PM
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20. Ugh, this place has ALWAYS
been a gross tourist dump for total losers ever since I can remember.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 08:02 PM
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21. Please don't blame Chicago - Blame the owners of the club
For hiring racist bouncers or creating a racist policy.
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Fastcars Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 10:22 PM
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24. Blaming The Locale....
Is only allowed when racists incidents occur in the South.

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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-19-09 11:17 PM
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25. I was once refused entry into an eating establishment
in Osaka, Japan. It had advertised a "Free Hawaiian Luau" for expats in the local English-language newspaper, so I thought what the heck, and after considerable effort, finally arrived at the time specified. The door said "Knock to Enter", and after I knocked, an eyehole in the door slid open and I saw some young Caucasian guy I recognized as American by his accent on the other side.
"I'm here for the free luau", I said.
"You can't come in", he replied.
"Why not?" I asked.
"Because you are wearing tennis shoes", was the reply. "Your shorts are OK, but you have to wear dress shoes".
"Dress shoes to a luau?" I protested. "There was nothing about that in your newspaper ad."
"Doesn't matter", he said curtly, "You can't come in". With that he slammed the eyehole shut.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 10:27 AM
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32. Mother's wouldn't let me in once.
Edited on Tue Oct-20-09 10:41 AM by ieoeja
I was there with my long-hair, wearing a T-shirt and with my Panamian date. Said I needed a collar which struck me as kind of weird since Mother's isn't really that fancy a bar.

Went back later while wearing a business suit and found half the patrons wearing collarless shirts. So I announced I had just gotten a 6-figure job and wanted to buy champagne for the entire bar. Got lots of high-fives and back slaps, went to the bathroom, then walked out the door without paying.

Revenge is best served cold ... and with expensive champagne.


On edit: my incident was twenty years ago!
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Theobald Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-20-09 11:06 AM
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33. 200 members of the senior class and only 6 of them are black?
Seems rather low to me. Were other black university students let in and only these six not let in?
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YBR31 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-22-09 11:13 AM
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37. Magical pants--transformed to acceptable when worn by white student
An indication that it was not an issue of dress code but of probable racism is that shortly later, one of the black kids gave his pants to a white student. The white kid put the pants on. The white kid was significantly smaller, so the pants were even longer & baggier on him and the white kid was admitted to the club, no questions asked.
http://www.studlife.com/news/2009/10/21/flyers-protesting-mothers-bar/
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