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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:10 PM
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Republicans move to delay climate bill progress
Source: Reuters

By Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - All seven Republicans on the U.S. Senate Environment and Public Works Committee plan to boycott next week's work session on a climate-change bill, an aide said on Saturday, in a move aimed at thwarting Democratic efforts to advance the controversial legislation quickly.

"Republicans will be forced not to show up" at Tuesday's work session, said Matt Dempsey, a spokesman for Republican senators on the environment panel.

Under committee rules, at least two Republicans are needed for Chairwoman Barbara Boxer to hold the work sessions that would give senators an opportunity to amend the controversial legislation and then vote to approve it in the panel, which is controlled by President Barack Obama's fellow Democrats. snip

Most Republicans and some moderate Democrats in the Senate have criticized the emissions-reduction target of the Kerry-Boxer bill. Kerry already has begun talking to other senators about significant changes to his bill, including expanding U.S. nuclear power generation.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59Q0JY20091031



And how much are we going to subsidize the nuke industry this time, including their waste storage?

The repugs are using their usual, "This is too rushed" tactic. :puke:
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:13 PM
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1. "expanding U.S. nuclear power generation" How many Billions is a nuke plant? How many PV cells and
wind mills can we put up for that?

I do not trust nuclear energy in the hands of the corporations. We just can't trust them.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:37 PM
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4. +1
That's exactly the point.
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 06:26 PM
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11. Wind power is cheaper than nuclear, but nuclear is cheaper than PV.
Wind power is a good investment.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 08:10 PM
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13. As long as you don't consider the cost of the waste. Just like coal and all that ash .. where do'ya
put the spent shit?
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 09:23 PM
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14. You isolate it for a few hundred years.
The once through uranium fuel cycle that the United States currently uses isn't optimal for reducing nuclear waste, but implementing a new fuel cycle would require rebuilding the nuclear industry from the ground up.

Investing in the wind industry and simultaneously looking at ways to store large amounts of energy (on the order of terawatt-hours) is probably the fastest and most cost effective way to reduce CO2 emissions at this point.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 06:26 AM
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16. "That article in Scientific American" proposed compressed air in underground caverns as storage
The article envisiaged a huge, national installation of photovoltaics as the technology for climate protection. I think wind power would make more sense.

I think that time shifting of electrical loads makes loads of sense.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:53 PM
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15. Solar isn't waste-free either
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/08/AR2008030802595.html

Unfortunately the Chinese have just said screw it to any waste disposal plans.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:20 AM
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18. Oh noes, the nuclear boogyman is gonna come get you!
:eyes:
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:19 PM
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2. why should they hurry. blue dog d ems will sabatoge everything if given a chance nt
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:34 PM
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3. If they dont show up then keep them in session for the weekend.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:46 PM
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5. I hope they do not get away with this tactic. n/t
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 02:53 AM
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6. .....THIS JUST IN......OR OUT..........
Republicans move to delay bowel movements... Then aborts idea way too late....film and smear campaign at eleven....
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:12 AM
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7. hr2454 is a bad bill .. .nt
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 04:43 AM
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9. Compared to the results of unmitigated climate change?
People need to face the fact that we have some very tough, life-or-death choices to make if we want to save civilization. Compared to the BILLIONS who will die if we do nothing, the "bad" parts of this bill are nothing.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 05:06 AM
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10. California gets to increase pollution, how is that good? .nt
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 07:06 PM
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12. So long as overall US carbon emissons go down, I couldn't care less
Because global climate change and the accompanying misery it will bring doesn't care what state or region of the world you live in.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 10:12 AM
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19. what US state do you live in? n/t
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 12:29 PM
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20. Did you not read what I just wrote? It doesn't matter what state or country you live in
GLOBAL warming means we all get hammered by what's coming if we don't do something soon.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 03:51 AM
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8. Do they do anything but delay?
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-02-09 09:20 AM
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17. GOP: The Party of No.
Fuck them! Renewables and Nuclear YES, Coal and Natural Gas NO!
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