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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:38 AM Original message |
STOCK MARKET WATCH, Thursday November 5 |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:42 AM Response to Original message |
1. Market Observation |
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Hugin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:36 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Thanks for today's cartoon, Ozy. |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:00 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Thank you. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Very much a product of the times |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #14 |
54. You have to read Rand when you're young |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
24. Any writer of pot-boilers would be brighter than her. She was as mad as a meat-axe. I should |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:44 AM Response to Reply #9 |
16. Yes, very nice cartoon today. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:58 AM Response to Reply #9 |
23. I would worry for you, Hugin, if is no more than a seed of suspicion. |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:44 AM Response to Original message |
2. Today's Reports |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
20. Initial Claims @ 512,000 - last wk rev'd up 2k - 3Q unit labor costs -5.2% - productivity up 4.3% |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
53. Unemployment distortions: Denninger |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:03 AM Response to Reply #2 |
25. U.S. Worker Productivity Jumps, Costs in Record Drop |
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burf (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
37. But at least |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:15 AM Response to Reply #25 |
40. China has the formula worked out... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Not to mention the counterfeiting of things like infant formula and pet food |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
3. Oil slips below $80 as US dollar strengthens |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Congress set to clear aid to jobless, homebuyers |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
32. So Timmy Can Sell His Overpriced House! |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. Chrysler must get buyers to hang on |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:58 AM Response to Original message |
6. Debt: 11/03/2009 11,978,591,612,480.95 (UP 3,853,897,264.84) (Tue) |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. Debt: 11/04/2009 11,978,953,722,825.90 (UP 362,110,344.95) (Wed) |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:01 AM Response to Original message |
7. Intel-Dell Dealings Under Fire |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. +25 just for the cartoon! |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Thanks! |
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ozymandius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. More Signs of Consumer Retrenchment |
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boomerbust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Makes sense |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Americans expect to spend less on holiday presents this year than last year |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. I feel guilty almost at finally being able to live better than paycheck-to-paycheck |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. Morning Marketeers..... |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. There was a great post in GD a few days back. Something like, "We are not needed" |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. This is the deconstruction of the Industrial Revolution in this country... |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
18. OK, I'll be brave and ask a really stupid question that's been nagging at me |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. welcome to the SMW, bread_and_roses! |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:37 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. What a dumb question!!! (ONLY KIDDING, since I asked the same) |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. The VIX has been toying with levels considered to be quite volatile but steadying a bit here now |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Deflation isn't necessarily lower prices |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. True. And I wonder how much weighting is given to housing prices? |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Supply and demand, speculation, any number of reasons for pricing |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Thank ya kindly for that link. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Look for more TAE primers |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Damn interesting read here: Thanks for the link |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. TAE is a great site |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:04 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Looking at the overall picture and the credit availability thing |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. real, uninflated values |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
47. Guess I was thinking in more micro terms when it's really a macro term. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. That's easy to do when we've been led to believe rising prices is inflationary |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. I'm not into the markets either |
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Loge23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #18 |
29. It's a casino |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
52. Dow almost at 10,000 |
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ret5hd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Well, the DOW has kinda established 10,000 as a ceiling while... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. In Engineering We Would Call It Signs of Instability |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. OK, bread_and_roses, here's my take on it. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. My best advice..... |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 04:47 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. Ah, the origami school of investing! |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
73. Thank you for taking so much time in that thoughtful response (n/t) |
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mullard12ax7 (500 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
64. You are correct, the "markets" are a total load of manipulated lies |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
19. dollar watch |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
26. Thank you, Up In Arms and Tansy |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Depressed, but Sane |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
41. I think we need this |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Here's another you may not have seen |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Three's the charm |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks again to all, and Demeter, love the engineering analogy. perfect! (n/t) |
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DoBotherMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
59. K&R n/t |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
60. Bankers look to Jesus for cover. |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. So when are they gonna love/pay us the way they been |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. "the injunction of Jesus to love others as ourselves is an endorsement of self-interest." |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Where Do You Think They Got It From? |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. But her spirit lives on in the diseased brains of her followers. |
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tclambert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
69. Didn't Jesus chase the investment bankers out of the temple? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
75. Jesus could not have been more extreme in his warnings against undue |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. So Far, So Good. The US Consumer is Jobless, and Wall Street is Partying. |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 04:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. DJIA +204 today! Over 10,000! Free ponies have returned! YAY US!! |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Bob Prechter: Bear Market Rally Is Over, Stocks Headed For New Lows |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. That is fascinating stuff - and there's a parallel on those UI #s |
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