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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:09 PM Original message |
Award-winning Cuban blogger says she was beaten, detained |
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Kurska (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Don't ever bother, there are people here who call Cuba a democracy, but say israel isn't. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. haha ;) no doubt. cuba is paradise by definition, but nobody wants to move there. n/t |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. I would if I could |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. hehe, you can't just get health care. you get the whole package there. n/t |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:41 AM Response to Reply #40 |
125. You'll free speech speech and the right to vote for someone not named Castro for health care? |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
51. What´s your obsession with Cuba? You'd better care for Guantanamo. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. i posted an obsession? i thought i had posted "news"... |
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TiredOldMan (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Well said. If people on this board lived in Cuba and dared |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
74. 11 million cubans, thats too many people to think alike |
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edwardian (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:05 AM Response to Reply #74 |
176. 280 million |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
127. Do you have a link for recent disappearances in Cuba? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
137. They should as the US Government or the Miami "exiles" who have detailed photos |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Oh look there is an empty lot there by the beach |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #4 |
131. Send them to secret torture prisons, maybe? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Or you might hear how we fund her blog but, pft, why bother to know that? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. So you don't dispute what happened, but instead you provide a rationale for it |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. Hey, where are all those "bad apple" cop defenders in this case? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
81. Nope. And once again, you make yoursef into a pretzel twisting. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Neither of us is twisting logic at all. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. If my posts were really paid for by a foreign government |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Now who's the pretzel? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. I do dispute that this woman was harmed in any way |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Hey, Beth? Your entire post is on the subject line. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
107. And more garbage. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. People really concerned about the terrifying abuse going on should encourage the U.S. gummint |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. Bingo! |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. Wait...."gobbling up anything a person we can't see decides to tell us?" That's rich. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
157. lmao |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
21. I was thinking it was a dictatorship form of government |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. Just like the Soviet Union, China and North Korea. nt |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
117. And, quickly coming to the USA, I might add. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
45. Like other nations they are a democracy in name only |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
61. seems like democracy in the US |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
118. Oh, you noticed too? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
156. Then there's the privatized voting machines and counting...... |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #61 |
196. History FAIL |
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jasi2006 (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
66. And the proof of this attack is....??? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. street clothes n/t |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
151. Is Cuba bombing hospitals, the UN and civilians trapped inside an open-air prison? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. She would know - the Democracy Movement in Cuba is a very lonely place |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. ...and hopefully a new generation of anti-castrists... |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
69. Third way - my ass. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
93. that's why i rejoiced in Obama's election. 40 years have gone since allende. things change. n/t |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:47 PM Response to Reply #93 |
140. Things change? But no "third way" country to come up with? |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
141. Things change? But Kissinger still in business as envoy for Obama? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Sanchez is not the middle by any stretch of the imagination. n/t |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. did the "pentagon babe" deserve the beating - is this the point? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I want pictures and I hope you don't mind that |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. It's only Americans that take pictures of torture |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Well, aren't you married to your American exceptionalism? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. What? Look - keep this civil. No reason not to. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. I think you just summarized communism perfectly |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Thing is Capitlaism unchecked is just as bad as Communism Unchecked |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:38 PM Response to Reply #60 |
120. Not good examples |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #120 |
148. But those are both examples of Classical Imperial Capitalism |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #148 |
152. Capitalism requires a level playing field |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #152 |
153. Huh? Capitalism does not "Require" a level playing field |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #153 |
164. Capitalism needs to be open for all to compete, level |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #164 |
165. By that purist definition, you could very rightly say there has never been capitalism in the world |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #120 |
185. So wait a minute, if the British East India Company... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
87. No need to be unpleasant, agreed. And this will turn out to be crap. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Sorry, that is just wrong, but at least you do call it torture. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. no, i do not mind. in that you're right. though you sound overly suspicious... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. This person has been making a living as a Pentagon PR hack |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. I would take $$ from the Pentagon if it meant I could say what I wanted |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. A better question is, have you been in the military? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. I've been in the Peace Corps |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. The Peace Corp showed in Bolivia, that they could refuse the CIA. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. how anyone in America who would get paid by the Russians |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
82. I studied Shakespeare and I've never been to Elizabethan England either. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
89. If you take money from the Pentagon, you certainly cannot |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. if she's a "pentagon babe" her story of beating is even more credible... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
78. She's paid to fill space, not to think, as far as I can tell. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #78 |
90. ok, i see. i hope the next man/woman beaten in cuba for his/her opinions is just a poor devil... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
98. You don't even know if it happened. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #98 |
102. hehe. that makes it even more suggestive ;) n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. Tell you what. If this turns out to be true |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. haha :) - no apologies in that case, a drink will do. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. Done deal. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
201. "in a country where DU would just be impossible". Bullshit. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #201 |
204. First photo I've seen of Barbara Lee with him. Great! |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. Do you have a source that she is paid by the pentagon? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Good question.... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
72. indeed |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Also a good point |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I disagree - she is not part of the US-based CANF "Restore Batistaism" movement by any means |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yeah, right. Yoani Sanchez, Pentagon Babe. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I have heard otherwise |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. And there you go. n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Your point? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. She's a paid hack. |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Um, yeah. How do you think she can afford to access the internet? |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I'm in rural America, can I just send my Internet access bill to the Pentagon? n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Are you in a job that pays you $2 a day? |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:08 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. I'm paid $30.00 a day to stay out of jail. In other words, SS. n/t |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
52. Huh? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #23 |
57. You have it backwards |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. Oh, yeah. I have a big thing for dictators! |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #80 |
121. It's been obvious for a while n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #121 |
130. You're confusing your thing for right wing spin with me. n/t |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #130 |
142. It's just a pattern I see |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #142 |
166. I'm so sorry you're seeing things. Healthcare reform can't come fast enough. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #166 |
168. I could be wrong |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
155. Both of you - - this cannot be reduced to a binary 'yes/no' answer |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I don't understand your definition of democracy? |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:10 AM Response to Reply #24 |
180. one might be: the right to disagree. which cuba is short of. :) n/t |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. if something similar happened here in the US |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Good point - there was no permanent damage |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
43. ever been at a protest in may day? |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #27 |
59. Do you really think DU could have lasted under Bush? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:39 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Correct about Che |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:47 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. and who say DU is not under surveillance |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #67 |
76. Give me a break already |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
83. common fear do more to control people than disappearing them |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You have 4800 posts in 4 years. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #85 |
91. out of the 350 millions people? I'm in the small minority who post in DU |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. You started this by wondering whether DU is under surveillance |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. OK so what makes you think DU is not? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. Maybe it is. Maybe scores of computers have been confiscated, |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #103 |
115. surveillance doesn't mean to take away computers or jail posters |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 11:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
122. We probably are |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #122 |
136. in DU we don't see people trying to overthrow the government |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #136 |
143. People in Cuba can be jailed and tortured just for criticism |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #143 |
147. The Montana Militia is the only thing that can be compare to the Cuban government critics |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. Those are the extreme here |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
158. I'll bet if DU chiefs came down hard on the trolls, it would be closed down |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 10:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
134. If this were a Cuban DU |
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divineorder (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 06:44 AM Response to Reply #59 |
203. Is what she is saying the truth? |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. BWAHAHAHA |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:50 PM Response to Reply #55 |
197. LOL, to host a blog? |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
132. That's your source? |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
9. Sounds like Pittsburgh or St. Paul. The whole world is going to hell. n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. From Miami with love |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
38. The part I don't understand is the surprise. Fasist states arrest protesters. |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. if Cuba were full of corporations it would be a free country n/t |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. no, maybe not. who would not prefer a dictator with his bunch of villains instead? :) n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
71. like Pinochet ? |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. indeed, some "socialist" leader took lesson from pinochet's methods ;) |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. I see but the blogger doesn't provide any proof of the governments involvement |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:35 PM Response to Reply #88 |
100. no evidence, you're right there. and we won't ever have probably. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. So is Ollie North. n/t |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. my fault. i should know better that everything's fine in cuba, before posting these news. :) n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:46 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. I don't think Cuba is the re-discovered Garden. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. i know you don't. n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #100 |
113. a story like this would push her into more media exposure |
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Duende azul (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:27 AM Response to Reply #100 |
128. And she knows, whatever she does she is perfectly safe. |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
47. How can you combine Fascist and Socialism. They are mutually exclusive. n/t |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #47 |
150. NSDAP |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:35 AM Response to Reply #150 |
172. Word games don't shed any useful light on history. In 1920, when the then-tiny DAP stuck |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #47 |
182. Badly, and without a dictionary at hand? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. Nearly 300 protestors arrested in GOP convention protests |
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naaman fletcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
49. yes but they have universal healthcare. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. in italy, when someone accused fascist dictator mussolini, some replied that... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Corporations were in charge of those trains |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. i never compared fascism to socialism. indeed, cuba is all but socialist. n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. What is socialism then? |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. you mean the label on the cuban governmental parades? or on the chinese ones? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. So how Cubans are not taking care of their people? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
94. She has not posted a photo of herself beaten. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #94 |
159. That reminds me of the Clint Eastwood film of the young psychopath kidnapper, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:28 PM Response to Original message |
95. I have one more thing to add to this thread. Human Rights Watch |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #95 |
123. HRW is only one of many |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:22 AM Response to Reply #123 |
129. Right. Too bad Cubans don't have the freedom to be snatched off the street |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
144. Of course the Cuban government doesn't send their people to Syria |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. Evidence? Even las madres de la plaza de mayo |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #154 |
167. I already gave a good example |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #144 |
160. Somebody posted on here quite recently that someone who'd voiced a threat |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #160 |
169. Evidence |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:41 AM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Our government throws them off of buildings-- |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:08 AM Response to Reply #169 |
177. I'm sure people were busily snapping away at the arresting officers, |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:30 AM Response to Reply #177 |
179. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. You are simply not paying attention. I pointed out that it was perfectly legal |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. I'm talking about your basic idiot making a threat |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-07-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
110. Democracy in Cuba is as possible as democracy in the USA. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
124. It seems some dickheads detained her briefly and weren't particularly gentle in their |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #124 |
145. This was just a warning |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #145 |
170. I'll say again: anyone anywhere who grabs a cop by the nuts is asking for trouble. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #124 |
161. Don't be nasty! There are some vey tender soul on here who would |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #124 |
174. I'm glad she has health care!!! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 05:48 AM Response to Original message |
126. Ahhhh, Cuba. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #126 |
133. Ain't that the truth... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Mariel |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #126 |
138. From whom are the Lat. Am. people who die in the desert in the hundreds each year trying to escape? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #138 |
171. They are trying to escape poverty and corruption. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #126 |
162. And are now sleeping in the streets! Ruing the day. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
146. I think you mean... |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-08-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
163. I just spent about an hour or so researching this story and...she's Cuba's Michelle Malkin |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:29 AM Response to Reply #163 |
178. They're so authoritarian, I wonder why they don't kick her out? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 04:54 AM Response to Original message |
175. This is such nonsense. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #175 |
184. Blaming the victim, pretending the beating and kidnap are fabrications. |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. Ha... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:15 AM Response to Reply #186 |
187. The "pronouncement" that matters already came from the person who matters. n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #184 |
190. Oh, please. Where do you think the funds come from for people |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Do you doubt Sanchez' account? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Of course I doubt her. She's a right wing spinner. That's what she does. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. Can't go there with you on this one. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. Of course it doesn't. But in order to go there, you have to take her word |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:39 AM Response to Original message |
188. The national... |
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ItNerd4life (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
189. But, but, but she has great healthcare and great education! |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
195. What a useless thread this is. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #195 |
199. yes, of course we're all paranoid. and cuba is a paradise. |
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Mika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 10:04 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. Some people say. |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 04:22 AM Response to Reply #200 |
202. hehe. some people have the truth (you and the ones you mean)... |
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murdoch (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
198. American bloggers beaten, detained |
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demoleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 07:34 AM Response to Reply #198 |
205. never said west is paradise. some hint that cuba is. which is grotesque. |
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