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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:12 PM Original message |
Venezuela the most corrupt country in Latin America, TI says |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. Who is TI? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Transparency International |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Who pays for them? Who is their board made up of? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Sourcewatch says they are tied Venezuelan coup plotters: |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Thank you. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. Sourcewatch is superb. I have to post more from yur link, yurbud: |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. I added the sourcewatch article link the Wikipedia article: |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
69. Jesus, what the fuck is going on down there? |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Our political rulers are helping the thuggish free-traders by propping up bases |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
79. ROTFLMAO! |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
128. Thanks for posting. Another "watch" type group with ties to the US government's NED. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
135. This gives no evidence that TI had links to the coup in Venezuela |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #135 |
152. Here is an earlier article from their attack on Venezuela's oil company. |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #152 |
158. Now don't get me wrong here, the author of that article might very well be correct |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. Isn't Transparency International another name for the School of the Americas? It |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. International "non- profit" funded by Boeing & never criticizes the US. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. busted again |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. "busted" by a link that doesn't work in wikipedia |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Deleted message |
kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. It worked fine. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Nice work, Vida. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Wow! The article indicates Peter Eigen is the founder. He has been a long time World Bank official. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
74. I can only surmise: helping the poor=corrupt nt |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm scared to find out how the US is ranked. |
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iandhr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. US is 19 |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #13 |
110. the US is 19th? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. I suppose they never heard of Columbia. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. President for Life Uribe is a model of leadership to the elites of Latin America |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Uribe can go to hell |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
58. No, it's not funny, it's US strategery to deploy Colombia against Venezuela |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. What does Uribe has to do with this particular subject? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. Your topic is corruption in Latin America. Or, that's the Subj line. |
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COLGATE4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. If you're going to bad-mouth Colombia |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Which country has the worst record in the world in assassinating union workers? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Blame it on the hangover. |
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edwardian (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 04:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
156. Colombia, |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
7. you are still here with the anti-Venezuelan Propaganda |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. So now you're an expert on corruption |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. and you know nothing at all |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. You just say personal stuff, that's BS |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. because you have posted garbage here so often you have NO credibility |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. Well |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #72 |
82. This post was actually pretty useful for people who wanted to show that TI had no credibility |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #82 |
125. I bet this article was posted for it's anti chavez content n/t |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:11 PM Response to Reply #125 |
126. trial by speculation is a fascist method n/t |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. well said, TI is an organization of fascist speculators |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:28 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. How did this German NGO supported itself the coup? |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #130 |
134. see post #122 |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #134 |
137. Your post #122 is about Equatorial Guinea (?!) |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
14. Who voted for yet another anti-Chavez operative on DU? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. "Seeing through Transparency International" |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. funded by the oil companies |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
136. While I think that's an important thing to know when reading their index |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 02:23 AM Response to Reply #136 |
143. if a tobacco company funded a study saying second hand smoke wasn't dangerous, how trustworthy would |
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gmpierce (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:25 AM Response to Reply #143 |
144. and... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #144 |
153. When? 1952? Their current position is that it DOES cause cancer LINK |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #144 |
154. Sourcewatch seems to indicate that NCI was captive to the tobacco industry in the 70s |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #143 |
159. Right, and that's a fair point |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. In sum: "Transparency International" has LIED THROUGH THEIR TEETH about the Chavez government, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. Deleted message |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Mendacity on skates. nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
56. That would make so much more sense! n/t |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. "He is a member of the British based Venezuela Information Centre" |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Give it up |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. I don't think corruption has improved under his administration |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
28. I want to thank Joanne98 publicly for her magnificent work at DU |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. Here's another excellent work by Calvin Tucker... |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. thanks for the background info on TI- I thought this sounded suspicious. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #41 |
67. Well, you know, "the elite right wing opposition to Chavez" doesn't stop at the Venezuelan border. |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. Wow horsey! I know all about the opposition here in the US by corporate/oil interests |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
86. Why didn't you bother to learn the facts on any of these items you threw up |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
123. WTF!! you win the prize for the most obnoxiously arrogant response to a post I've EVER read on DU |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #77 |
88. Well, was FDR running for and winning four terms in office a good thing or not? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. demagoguery |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #89 |
132. for 40 years Venezuelan governments a had long term plan |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #77 |
99. LOL. His "reaction" was to graciously concede a very close vote. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #99 |
111. Graciously? He said "Es una victoria de mierda", literally. Didn't you see that? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. After a full month of bullshit all over the media, I would have said much worse. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. What a report by Calvin Tucker. He deals with verifiable FACTS, not insinuations, and attacks. |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
20. Color me skeptical...nt |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. El Universal is Venezuela's version of NY Post and Washington Times |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. And that being said, there is a corruption problem in Venezuela |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. There has always been this problem and you know enough about Latin America to understand that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Now I know enough about Latin America? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. ... to understand there's a corruption problem in Venezuela. |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. You answered your own question |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:05 PM Original message |
I'll always be grateful to CaliforniaPeggy for showing me how to do good searches here. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
61. Whoa! Looks like a run on anti-Chavez articles!That Hugo is one real ####-up,according to these gems |
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ShadesOfGrey (646 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
147. Wow! Something (someone) is transparent alright. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. Reforms not always translate into reality |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #54 |
73. Go back and hide in your propaganda hole. |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
105. With all due respect |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
29. An oil-rich nation that is chronically short of electrical power and fresh water |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. You could say the same thing about California. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Yes I do - Our state legislature is so incompetent it's hard to see their corruption |
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Downwinder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
30. Where do they the USA, so we have a comparison. n/t |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
45. an all tied up neat and tidy piece of propaganda... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. Greg Palast has a good article on the basics of why Chavez is on our shit list: |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
80. Thanks! That's a beaut from Greg Palast! |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Come on! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Trying to take a kick at FDR? Where did you derive your mocking tone toward FDR? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #90 |
93. Your 3 pics are meaningless, we were talking about 2004 demonstrations, this slingshot |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:18 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Photo no. 6 (orange t-shirt pushing the door) was a staged rightwing riot. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. Well, the chavista is the guy with the gun |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
94. Well, I happen to have been alive and almost a voter during JFK's shortened term of office, |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Fair enough |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. The Gucci protesters! Yes, we know them welll from their film career. |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
50. It all began with Matilda. Downhill from there. nt |
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beyond cynical (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
52. Latin America corrupt...? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Yeah, North Americans love to sneer at Latin America. It's a hobby, isn't it? |
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beyond cynical (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Are you saying that there is corruption in North America...? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Don't turn me into the Thought Police! |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
64. THIS SMELLS ROTTEN FROM MILES AWAY! |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
66. who owns El Universal? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:39 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. No, they only own El Universal |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:41 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. So he's just a little pregnant. n/t |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. uh huh |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Wait a minute there |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
70. So when the ADECOS and COPEYANOS robbed billions each term, WTF was that? |
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rabs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
84. You nailed it |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
85. You're talking about an article written 25 years ago there about the low quality of domestic prods? |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #70 |
92. Right, but the index wasn't published by Universal |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
91. A Preferable Source For This Information? |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. I've tried to explained that point |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I guess some folks just need to see an anti-Chavez conspiracy in everything? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Maybe you can find it for us -- along with a better source of Obama's Kenyan birth certificate. |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
102. Why it is |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. You haven't read this thread, have you? n/t |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I have, actually. |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #103 |
106. You're not even going to attempt to explain this, are you? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm so sorry. There aren't enough hours in the day to refute all the straw men |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 09:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. What does the post you linked imply if not an anti-Chavez bias at TI? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. My post doesn't IMPLY anything. It SAYS that TI's assessment |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:51 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. Is paramilitary violence the only form of corruption by which a country can or should be judged? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. No but given that Colombia's is dependent on US funding |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #120 |
133. Some Agreement |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. Your guess would perfectly fit into another method of calculation |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. State violence and torture can't exist without profound corruption. |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:19 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. The state violence is way higher in Colombia than in Venezuela ergo |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #127 |
131. What is it with you people feeding lines to others? |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
155. Illogical |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. No, what I said was... |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
112. Do any leftist's care that Venezuela ia the only country that has met the millennium goals? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. The actual lefties do. And as we know, meddling by NGO |
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ChangoLoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 10:12 AM Response to Reply #112 |
146. SHAME on our Vice-President for telling lies about the real situation in our education system |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
116. I always like a good Chavez thread. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Western civilization -- still a good idea! |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #116 |
119. Ah yes, because anyone who disagrees with your assessment is automatically "ultra-Right" |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:50 AM Response to Reply #119 |
138. It's best to just let the Hugonauts have their way |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #138 |
139. There's an American lawyer/educator living in Merida right now who posts here, |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #139 |
140. That's wonderful and credible. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #138 |
141. That doesn't speak well of our major universities |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #138 |
150. Those of us who live in the United States bear responsibility for US policy... |
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AlphaCentauri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-17-09 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
122. Attention TI-U.S.A. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
142. Not surprising |
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edwardian (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
145. Patently false. |
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Liberation Angel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
148. kicked to bookmark |
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JonQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
149. Leave Chavez alone! |
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Bo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
151. Venezuela has become very expensive under Chavez |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
160. "Transparency" group debunked over right-wing ties |
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YouTakeTheSkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 08:12 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. To be fair, TI has publicly talked about this issue |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
162. NO!1 *CAN'T* be!1 n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 09:55 PM Response to Reply #162 |
163. You're late! ! 1 |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-18-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. *Who* took that pic of us?!1 n/t |
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