Independent voters disapprove of 9-11 imagery in Bush ads

Great move on the part of the Bush campaign - alienating independent voters now, too:



http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/bw-elect/2004/mar/12/031207484.html

Keep up the good work.

But now I see the simplicity in what he does-Its basically just good old fashioned LYING- not much more.

And it's not rocket science to make it work when the media is on your side either...

rather than selectively, it has a limited shelf life. You can lie on one stage (TX governor) and then lie on the next stage (Pres/national politics), but if you continually lie to the same audience, even as credulous an audience as the American public, eventually you expend your credibility and you've got bupkus. This appears to have finally begun to happen here, and not a moment too soon.

...everyone has heard them already & they are not as funny the 3rd or 4th time around...

We watched "All the President's Men" again this weekend, and that line
of Deep Throats rang so true about the Bush administration, as did so much
of the movie! Rove got his start as one of the Republican "rat fuckers"
during the Watergate era, and he has kept the same fundamental tactics
during his 30-plus year "career".

A little thing I like to repost every once in a while. I've been saying this forever:

Remember when you were a kid and some new toy would come along and the commercials for it were plastered all over the Saturday morning cartoons and before you knew it everyone you knew had one and of course, you had to get one too? It looked so great in the commercial, shiny and fun and promising endless enjoyment. I'm sure it happened numerous times during your childhood. Only, you get the toy and it's not nearly as fun as it looked and it breaks after using it a couple of times. The dissapointment and resentment would well up every time you saw the commercial after that. You knew the truth now and no amount of marketing would ever get you to buy another one of those toys. Maybe they'd sucker you in again for a NEW product, but that toy? History.

Bush is that toy. He was sold to the American people through a marketing and propoganda campaign of epic proportions. 9/11 didn't change Bush, it changed the way the country saw him. The country desperately needed a leader and they projected everything they thought a leader should be into Bush. Unfortunately for Bush and his bosses, they picked a defective product to foist on the American people.

The lustre has worn off and no amount of PR or marketing or propoganda can bring the people back to once again accept what they now know is a defective product. Bush's neocon bosses might have actually been able to pull off their complete seizure of the country if they had picked a different puppet. Someone who had at least a modicum of competence. Bush is not that puppet. He has neither the competence, the charisma or the intelligence. He's lazy, incurious, dull-witted, boorish, obnoxious and astoundingly arrogant. He's defective through and through right down to the very core of his essence and no amount of propoganda or PR will make people believe otherwise now.

And in addition, Rove, who one can say is the puppet master, is not all he's cracked up to be. I've never shared the opinion of many that Rove is brilliant. I've always thought he was a low-brow, ham fisted goon with a few obvious moves: Massive full frontal attack, or backstab and bait and switch. He's over rated.

Always remember, he didn't get the Chimp in by WINNING the election. If he could have done it that way, with smarts and finesse, I would say it was brilliant. To actually successfully sell a defective product takes brilliance. His tactics however, were ruthless thuggery and threats of violence and complete reliance on the Supreme Court. Nothing brilliant there. The Chimps approval ratings skyrocketed because of 9/11, not Rove's brilliance. A brilliant Political strategist would have been able to sustain those numbers. Rove is unable to do that and has NEVER been able to do that. He's a moron and he sucks at his job. He doesn't understand subtlety or nuance or the big picture. He's neither the intellect, the insight or the instincts of a brilliant person. What he does have is vicious ruthlessness in abundance and a propensity to take big risks. That's not brilliant, as a matter of fact, with no sense of moderation, it's quite stupid.

There's no marketing tactic, no amount of propoganda, no selling this defective product anymore. The best they can hope for is another anemic, short-lived blip in the polls as a result of some stunt, like capturing Bin Laden. This ride is over.

Keep in mind, I'm not claiming they won't "win" the next election, they very well might, but it won't be because they get the most votes.

Great post.

the rope, KKKarl.

Yes.

Ha ha!

would disapprove of the ads...*sound of crickets*

I have...

n/t

let's not be apologetic about bush hatred, we have many excellent reasons for hating him.

and love to talk out loud in restaurants about how much I hate him and why!

is owned by Bill Clinton's college roommate, which is why Big Dog was in Vegas so often for fundraisers. Just though you might find that interesting.

the Moonie Times probably would not run it.

The Sun is just running it...

for fundraisers as you put it. I'm sure President Clinton made the rounds but nowhere near as much as Bush*.

Like a big cow pie.

Face it these guys can only win by brute force thievery. Every kooky idea they hold when put in motion goes wrong.

The Iraq War is front in center. Next up NY Convention. Last and greatest Election '04 -- goodbye come November!

to see whether he could get away with having * give his acceptance speech from the WTC site. Now that the trial balloon has popped, Rove will quietly pull the ad in a couple of weeks and give up on the idea of using the WTC site during the GOP convention. OTOH - maybe Rove is as stupid as he looks and doesn't have a clue. That works also.

working for Kerry

freepers... LOL!

stand to see or hear the little man on TV, makes my skin crawl.

Any ad with Dubya in it is offensive. How about pictures from the WTC site with nothing about Bush/Cheney? Think the GOP will go for that?

I got that straight from no less an authority than Karen Hughes, who appeared on THREE different morning talk shows and said that "the vast majority of Americans" found it "tasteful"!

Sure, the 9/11 families caught a tough break. But it's time for them to cut their losses and get on with their lives! Geez!

:eyes:
rocknation

Take away 9/11 and Bush has no platform.

Hi, I'm Dubya and I approve of this ad.

3.5 million jobs lost, productivity and net income rises for corps.

550 military personnel killed in Iraq, and Haliburton is making millions.

No child left behind, and it didn't cost a penny because it's unfunded.

Jobs going off shore, more good news for corps, labor costs decrease.

Record deficits for the next 10 yrs, great for the wealthy, you guys get more money from the Federal Treasury and you didn't have to pay in anything.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, I remember where I came from.

3 yr recession, it doesn't hurt those who have real assets.

George Bush champion of the rich and powerful, 4 more years and they have it all! Stay the course!

It ought to really appeal to about two percent of the population....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

Wheeeeeeeeeeeee !

Yes ! :D

according to military code. Read it in Bartcop.com.

We need to point this out to Kerry campaign. A big stink has to be made about bushie's abuse of power, on top of the disrespect he has for 911 dead and their families.

They probably knew before they ran the ads that the images of 9/11 would stir controversy.

But being the buccaneers that they are, they decided to run them on a "trial run" to gauge the public's reaction. They knew people would get pissed, but they didn't know HOW pissed they would be.

So back to the drawing board. What now? They've got enough money in their campaign budget to bombard us with Bush's face 18 hours a day for the next 8 months. We get to see Bush's famous quotes, Bush carrying his dog, Bush with Laura, Bush's obnoxious face close to the camera; struggling with the most elementary sentences; his whining, immature, arrorgant demeanor.

Surely even they must realize that people would get sick of seeing him. They would vote for Kerry just to get rid of him.

N/T

Right after the Selection.

:headbang:
rocknation