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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:19 PM
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U.S. gave up billions in tax money in deal for Citigroup's bailout repayment
Source: Washington Post

The federal government quietly agreed to forgo billions of dollars in potential tax payments from Citigroup as part of the deal announced this week to wean the company from the massive taxpayer bailout that helped it survive the financial crisis.

The Internal Revenue Service on Friday issued an exception to long-standing tax rules for the benefit of Citigroup and a few other companies partially owned by the government. As a result, Citigroup will be allowed to retain billions of dollars worth of tax breaks that otherwise would decline in value when the government sells its stake to private investors.

While the Obama administration has said taxpayers are likely to profit from the sale of the Citigroup shares, accounting experts said the lost tax revenue could easily outstrip those profits.

The IRS, an arm of the Treasury Department, has changed a number of rules during the financial crisis to reduce the tax burden on financial firms. The rule changed Friday also was altered last fall by the Bush administration to encourage mergers, letting Wells Fargo cut billions of dollars from its tax bill by buying the ailing Wachovia.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/15/AR2009121504534.html?hpid=topnews



A bailout by any other name...
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:34 PM
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1. It's their world.
We only try to survive in it.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:37 PM
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2. ...
:banghead:

Oops, wrong emoticon, I mean:


:popcorn:
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marasinghe Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:50 PM
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3. precedent's gonna be set with the mandated health insurance premiums.
you might as well acclimatize yourself to:
- mandated corporate income tax reductions,
- mandated social security benefit reductions,
- mandated credit card interest rate increases,
- and, mandated personal income tax increases.

zimbabwe is supposed to have something like 80% aggregate taxes on personal income, counting vat, etc.. so, we got a little bit of a way to go, before they turn us into their wet-dream of: either feudal serfs, or domestic beasts of burden. they already got the overseers trained & ready, in the military, police & mercenaries.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 10:56 PM
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4. I hate to say it, but I agree with you, marasinghe. FUCK THIS!!! They own us.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:01 AM
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7. They own nothing.
To own, one must earn and pay. Governments do not buy anything, they take.

Violations of the social contract will only stand as long as the victims and the courts allow it.

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optimator Donating Member (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:05 PM
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5. mandated private education is next
we are fucked
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:08 AM
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9. No way.
The Federal Government has invested too much into the art of indoctrination to quit now.

Just look at the dividends it has paid so far, mindless nationalism, willingness to sacrifice our children.

Corporations would fuck all that up by getting greedy. They won't kill the last golden goose.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-15-09 11:56 PM
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6. A new stealth bailout without any of those pesky executive compensation limits. Nice. nt
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New Dawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:01 AM
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8. The US government is entirely controlled by Wall Street and the Pentagon.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 12:34 AM
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10. Even much of the money they used to pay their way out of TARP..
came in through the backdoor via the Fed's MBS purchase program and other less conspicuous government-sponsored bailouts.

Once again, an opportunity to force them to make changes was lost. Their balance sheet now looks virtually the same as it did a year ago.

I think the banksters know the banks are going to fail again w/in the next two years, and they are trying to loot as much as they possible can before the inevitable happens.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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11. Citigroup gains massive tax break in deal with IRS
Source: WaPo

The federal government quietly agreed to forgo billions of dollars in potential tax payments from Citigroup as part of the deal announced this week to wean the company from the massive taxpayer bailout that helped it survive the financial crisis.

The Internal Revenue Service on Friday issued an exception to longstanding tax rules for the benefit of Citigroup and the few other companies partially owned by the government. As a result, Citigroup will be allowed to retain $38 billion in tax breaks that otherwise would decline in value when the government sells its stake to private investors.

While the Obama administration has said taxpayers likely will profit from the sale of the Citigroup shares, accounting experts said the lost tax revenue could easily outstrip those profits.
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“The government is consciously forfeiting future tax revenues. It’s another form of assistance, maybe not as obvious as direct assistance but certainly another form,” said Robert Willens, an expert on tax accounting who runs a firm of the same name. “I’ve been doing taxes for almost 40 years and I’ve never seen anything like this where the IRS and Treasury acted unilaterally on so many fronts.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/15/AR2009121504534.html



Just in time for bonus season. And, of course, a banking executive cannot get a bonus if their company is on the TARP teat.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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12. Isn't it amazing how tough the talk was on Sunday's 60 minutes
and how catering the action is in private.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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13. Fat Cats, indeed.
Made even fatter through the actions of this administration through its malicious lump of a Treasury Secretary, Timothy Geithner.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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14. They wouldn't be so fat Mr. President
If you stopped feeding them.
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westerebus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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15. How much health care coverage can you buy for $3.8 billion?
Which is a mere 10% of the total that will go untaxed.
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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16. vile. just vile
the IRS wouldn't be as kind to an ordinary taxpaying citizen.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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17. More Asian change. nt
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pissedoff01 Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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18. What's a few billion between friends
Edited on Wed Dec-16-09 09:19 AM by pissedoff01
Vikram Pandit and Timothy "Goldman Sachs" Geithner
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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19. OK, so where are those RW fools who keep telling us that asking to
buy into Medicare instead of being forced to purchase crap "insurance" policies is the same as demanding that the government buy us all new cars and ponies? The government IS buying quite a few people new private jets and third vacation homes, and those people "need" nothing whatsoever. What do they have to say about it?
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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20. k
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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21. WTF?
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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22. Citigroup owns Obama just as much as
GoldmanSachs.

We F'd.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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23. Yayyyy!!! Obama's "fat cats" win again!!! Yayyyyy!!!
Cheer with me, will you?

"under the bus, under the bus, throw us all, under the bus!!!"

"fuck us one, fuck all, fat cat's killing us, one and all!!"

Rahh!! Rahhh!!!!

Scream lounder, it drowns out the tears!!!!

Yayyyyy!!!!
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mcablue Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 11:06 AM
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24. The IRS is part of the Treasury. Guess who heads the Treasury?
Bank-friendly Tim Geithner.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 01:34 PM
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25. This is really going to sink?
:wtf:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-16-09 08:05 PM
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26. kick
:-(
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