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Herschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:07 PM
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Israel says U.S. President Bush to announce Syria sanctions soon
The United States is expected to announce sanctions this week against Syria for backing terror groups, Israeli Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom said Sunday.

Shalom was addressing the weekly Israeli Cabinet session. He is due to travel to Washington this week for talks with U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell, officials from both countries said.


An official present at the Cabinet meeting quoted Shalom as saying that U.S. President George W. Bush would announce the sanctions.

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http://www.chinapost.com.tw/detail.asp?onNews=1&GRP=A&id=23237

Wonderful news. The Syrian threat to Israel and America must be thwarted.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:09 PM
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1. Oh, finally we have an insider in the Bush Administration to provide
us with information. Too bad it's Israel.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:16 PM
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4. Indeed
It's nice to see Israel is now speaking for us. :eyes:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:29 PM
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10. Meaning what, exactly????
Or was this just slur and run?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:39 PM
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38. Meaning it would be nice to have the U.S. media reporting
developments in our foreign policy straight from the White House, instead of a foreign country that has a stake in the matter. Makes you kind of wonder who is dictating foreign policy in this country.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:10 PM
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2. Woo hooo! NEXT!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:14 PM
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3. scanctions will exclude oil area and will losen computer area - but as
always losened controls and excluded areas will be called increased sanctions

1984 is required reading with a Bush administration!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:16 PM
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5. jesus christ
can this get even more blatant-sharon is announcing policy decisions of our country before our "leaders" announce them? what the fuck is sharon running our country now? i didn`t know i was a citizen of israel. i guess nobody knows this but sharon must be running for the president of the united states-when is he going to announce?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:34 PM
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:50 PM
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16. Israel has over 200 nuclear weapons pointed at her neighbors
and a well-fortified army with a full airforce. What are you talking about??
Hating Israel's government is not hating Jews and that is a cheap shot to use.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:05 PM
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21. That's not what was said
Does the fact that I hate Shrub mean I hate Americans? :eyes:

The poster said nothing about Jews. S/he was speaking of the Israeli government, not the people of that country. There is a difference you know. You can disagree with the premise of the poster (that Sharon is running our gov't) without accusing him/her of anti-Semitism.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:07 PM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:10 PM
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26. Since when did Sharon = all Jews worldwide?
Careful, your straw man is showing.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:11 PM
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:28 PM
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33. Being anti-Sharon or anti-Likud is not anti-Semitic. That makes no sense.
I mean, for one thing, the Jewish people are NOT the only people of Semitic origin! So when I get called an "anti-Semite" for having legitimate concerns about the Israel government's policies, am I thus also being bigoted against the Arabs of Semitic origin in the region?

I'm not going to argue that anti-Semitism doesn't exist. Of course it does. There's a great article in the Guardian that illustrates many of my own feelings:

I reply to every reader's letter accusing me of anti-Semitism because the issue seems so important. They make the cardinal error of identifying the Jewish people with the Israeli government, wilfully confusing anti-semitism and anti-Zionism. Often, they seem to demand that the behaviour of Israel should be judged by a special standard, that allows the likes of Sharon and Netanyahu a special quota of excesses, in compensation for past sufferings.

For many years, Israelis in debating difficulties have played a decisive trump: "You have no right to criticise our actions, because of the Holocaust." Ruthless exploitation of the Holocaust card has been successful in deflecting much international criticism, especially from European democracies.

Charges of anti-semitism are not infrequently levelled against the growing number of Jews who express dismay about the behaviour of the Israeli government; they are "self-hating Jews", who betray their own kin. Yet surely it is those who make such cruel allegations who bring shame upon themselves.

Jewish genius through the centuries has been reflected in the highest intellectual standards. Attempts to equate anti-Zionism, or even criticism of Israeli policy, with anti-semitism reflect a pitiful intellectual sloth, an abandonment of reasoned attempts to justify Israeli actions in favour of moral blackmail. In the short run, such intimidation is not unsuccessful, especially in America. Yet in the long term, grave consequences may ensue. In much of the world, including Europe, a huge head of steam is building against Israeli behaviour.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1166637,00.html
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:08 PM
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42. I am going to make an exercise in mind-reading. See your Inbox (nt)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:18 PM
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30. interesting,,
i have never said i hate the Jewish people or the Jewish religion. when any foreign leader-no matter his or her religion-announces us policy before it is announced here-i have a big problem.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:21 PM
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:34 PM
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34. I don't think hitting alert works in these cases
I hope to be pleasantly surprised, however.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:42 PM
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39. It has nothing to do with anti-semitism
It's about Israel's government having a HUGE (and negative) impact on U.S. foreign policy. Like it or not, they do whatever they want and don't give a shit about U.N. policy.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:59 PM
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18. Maybe Sharon should just replace Cheney
for VP?
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:36 PM
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36. Maybe it's part of that new selective draft they are going to
Thank goodness we have our own kind of liberty here in the US





http://www.ussliberty.org/
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neverborn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:17 PM
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6. Israel?!
What the holy hell!?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:17 PM
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7. Could you please tell me...
how Syria threatens the US directly?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:18 PM
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8. America needs more enemies. Be glad.
With Little Israel at our side, War Without End is finally possible. Be Glad, BE GLAD!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:13 PM
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28. BE GLAD!
I've heard that phrase so many times that it's lost all meaning! :crazy:

Maybe I should "be glad" that the IDF isn't shooting innocent nonviolent protestors here in America, and is only targeting American nonviolent protestors in Palestine.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:29 PM
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9. They're making it tougher and tougher...
to argue that US foreign policy isn't drawn up in the Knesset.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:34 PM
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11. After reading Perle's...
"A Clean Break: Strategy for Securing the Realm", it's easy to see where there is an intersection of Israel's rightwing and America's rightwing -- Israel gets it's enemies wiped out, one by one, and we get unlimited access to the region's oil reserves.

How convenient.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:38 PM
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12. Was this thread started so that a flaming war could be started?
I have no comment seeing as to the opinion posted by the original poster seems to set the tone for just that.

Just curious... :shrug:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:38 PM
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13. This is the most bigoted delusional thread I have ever read.
And I notice the gloating in your horror.

You have absolved BushCo completely and blamed the Jews.

Now, doesn't that feel good, Mel?
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thebigidea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:48 PM
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15. nah, I don't think any one has absolved BushCO.
Sharon is just a wisecrackin' sitcom sidekick in comparison.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:02 PM
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19. If you are going to make blanket accusations
could you at least back them up with quotes? I don't recall ever seeing anyone here blame all the Jews.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:03 PM
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:06 PM
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22. I did about someone else
the other day who always play the anti-semitism card and the mods refused to do anything about it.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:09 PM
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25. Accusing somebody of "Hating all Jews"
without warrant or good evidence is a clear personal attack. Continue to hit alert and argue your case to the moderators. Allowing such nonsense on this board violates the very spirit of civic discourse the rules are meant to promote. Continue to hit alert.
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earthman dave Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:39 PM
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37. You must be thinking of a different board
The mods decide what is acceptable. This is acceptable, apparently. This kinda shit goes on in I/P all the time, have you been in there recently? It's an eye-opener. No filthy anti-semitic leftists round here, no sir, just right (even far right) thinking Good Citizens. Nothing to see here, move along.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:43 PM
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40. mods refused to do anything about it..
that would be anti-semitic. </sarc>
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:41 PM
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14. Yes Sir Mr Shalom
right away sir.

Gee, Mr. Bush*? Why?

180
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eablair3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 03:57 PM
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17. I didn't know that Syria was a "threat" to the U.S.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-04 04:04 PM by eablair3
How many U.S. Navy ships has Syria attacked?

How many U.S. armed forces personnel has Syria killed in those attacks?

How many spies of Syria has there been in the U.S. government that we have caught?

How many weapons of mass destruction does Syria have?

How much land has Syria taken in any attacks as an aggressor?

How many state subsidized settlements is Syria building on others' land?

shall we ask the same questions with respect to Israel?
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:01 PM
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41. since we're already in the neighborhood
we can sweep through the middle east and dragnet all the way to Syria.
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:08 PM
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24. Yeah, Syria's got bombers flying our way now. Duck and cover!
:eyes:

Did you believe Iraq was an 'imminent threat', too?

Sharon's fascist policies cause America more harm than Syria can. The more innocent Palestinians are murdered by the IDF in retaliation for innocent Israelis being murdered by the militant factions, the more hatred the Muslim world has for the United States for funding the war crimes, and the more support people like Osama bin Laden accrue.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:14 PM
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29. Can we just have the damn election now? Please?
Let's get this bunch of assholes out!
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Ms. Clio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:20 PM
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31. SSDD
the crap just keeps on coming.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 04:35 PM
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35. This should help *'s re-election, eh?....Sharon has taken over!!!
Hmmmmmmm..........
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-04 05:19 PM
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43. Locking
Until it's decided if this thread is worth salvaging.
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