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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:38 AM
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(Defense Secretary) Gates: Fewer gay troops will be dismissed
Source: AP

Pentagon to take a year to study revising ‘don’t ask, don’t tell,’ officials say

WASHINGTON - Defense Secretary Robert Gates is promising to try to spare more gay troops from being dismissed from the military while the Pentagon takes a year to study revising its "don't ask, don't tell" policy.

An announcement of the study, expected Tuesday before the Senate Armed Services Committee, marks a measured step toward President Barack Obama's goal of eliminating the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy, which is based on a 1993 law.

Obama has called on Congress to repeal the law, but Democrats say they want more guidance on how to allow openly gay service members to serve without causing a major upheaval.

The yearlong study could pave the way for the biggest social change to the military since the 1948 executive order for the racial integration of units.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35197645/ns/us_news-military/
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:42 AM
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1. Are you fucking kidding me?
Upheaval? Oh no.. you have to be around gay people. Let's all feel bad for the poor straight military members, whom most of which don't give a fuck whether you are gay or straight as long as you have their back in battle.

Frankly this screams to me of more Republican, Bigot appeasement. Fuck them. I could care less if their 1920s mindsets are thrown into upheaval. Let these good citizens serve their country. And while we're at it, let's try treating them as if they're fucking human beings and give them the same basic rights the rest of us enjoy.

Bigots make me sick.

Rp
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:43 AM
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2. Still "expected." Hearing hasn't happened yet.
Predictions on what Gates will say are all over the map, BTW.
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:44 AM
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3. Ludicrous
So many other countries have done it with no problem.
How about worrying about the heterosexual problem for women in the military.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:54 AM
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4. I'm watching Gates and Mullen as I type
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 11:55 AM by Solly Mack
They're getting ready to take a break.

So far the talk is about weaponry, cost, budget,contractors

Don't Ask, Don't Tell is coming up after the break
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:11 PM
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6. They are talking about DADT NOW
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:01 PM
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5. Fewer? How will they decide which gay soldiers to dismiss?
Fewer implies that they will still be going after some people. Does this mean they are only going after the "really, really, like totally obvious" gay people? Will they have some kind of gay-meter to decide whether somebody is too gay to be in the army?
:shrug:
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:20 PM
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7. A *year*? That's absurd. I give them a week.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:51 PM
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8. Fuck You, Gates
Can't think of anything else to say that won't get me banned.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:51 PM
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9. Compromise you can believe in
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:28 PM
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10. Not good enough, Gates. You dick.
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:29 PM
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11. If it ain't "ZERO", it ain't good enough.
:mad:
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:54 PM
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12. Here's a plan:
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:12 PM
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13. +1
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guyton Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:31 PM
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14. give 'em maybe a day ...
to give the homophobes a chance to resign.

really, what's to study? good grief, I wish I had a year to "study" tasks my boss tells me I need to get done!

Oh, btw, it's already been a year since Obama has taken office! What have they been doing?
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 04:04 PM
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21. Preventing a currency collapse, for one
health care legislation for another
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 04:14 PM
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23. The Pentagon's been busy with the economy and health care? (nt)
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 05:22 PM
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24. Bush left a huge mess! It's only been a year! Bush left a mess!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:48 PM
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15. They're just going to increase the "stop loss" program
Maybe they'll invite the gay translators back.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 03:21 PM
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16. We need more Defense Sec's dismissed.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 03:27 PM
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17. Mullen's got the right idea, I think.
He told the Senate Armed Services Committee Tuesday he is deeply troubled by a policy that forces people to "lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens."


Yep.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 03:29 PM
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18. Why is this Bush fixer in this government?
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 03:29 PM
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19. A year of debate.. hmmmm, how did that fare for Health Care...

Give the Republicans (closeted and otherwise) a year and they'll turn meat into mush and claim it wasn't their doing.
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dashrif Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 03:54 PM
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20. I
cant believe they are still talking about this, military service can be a shitty job you have to have the right motivation to join and be a team player.

I don't give a fuc what you do in your private time if your motivated troop and got your buddy's back in a fire fight then your ok with me.

They are not giving our professional solders enough credit, sure there will be some assholes in the beginning but vast majority will be fine with it just like when racial integration happened.

I served with many different races, religions and even gay solders as an infantry grunt it did not matter at all.
Now we may have gave each other shit form time to time just like brothers will do, but if you fought one of us you would have to fight us all.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 04:08 PM
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22. What a bunch of crap
The strategy is plain as day: "Let do a study for year until we're past the mid-terms. That'll keep the gay community quiet and after the year is up we'll find some other way to drag this out".

What garbage. I'm tired of my gay friends being treated like second-class citizens. I lost my best friend ever who drank himself to death because of the intolerance he faced every single day by being gay in a small midwestern town. When is this shit going to stop?
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