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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 11:56 PM
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In a doomsday cyber attack scenario, answers are unsettling
Source: LA Times

The crisis began when college basketball fans downloaded a free March Madness application to their smart phones. The app hid spyware that stole passwords, intercepted e-mails and created havoc.

Soon 60 million cellphones were dead. The Internet crashed, finance and commerce collapsed, and most of the nation's electric grid went dark. White House aides discussed putting the Army in American cities.

That, spiced up with bombs and hurricanes, formed the doomsday scenario when 10 former White House advisors and other top officials joined forces Tuesday in a rare public cyber war game designed to highlight the potential vulnerability of the nation's digital infrastructure to crippling attack.

The results were hardly reassuring.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-cyber-attack17-2010feb17,0,305928.story
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:04 AM
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1. When will they figure out the real hazard is from all the
cats pouncing on the keyboards!

lpll0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:11 AM
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9. OMG!
LOL!
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webDude Donating Member (830 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:27 AM
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2. Get a Mac.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:29 AM
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4. doesn't help if all the other machines are fried n/t
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:17 AM
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3. But of course our E-Voting System is perfectly secure and reliable....
:eyes:
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:31 AM
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5. It doesn't bother them to hack our email. But listen to them
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 03:21 AM by Downwinder
holler about theirs getting hacked.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:13 AM
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6. The assemblage of actors in that doomsday cyber attack scenario is unsettling.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 03:27 AM by OnyxCollie
Michael Chertoff
Lee Hamilton
Thomas Kean
Dennis Blair
Jamie Gorelick
Fran Townsend
John Negroponte

Stewart Baker, former general counsel of the National Security Agency, said the White House should shut down cellphone networks even if no law specifically allowed it.

"We will be criticized if we don't do everything we can," said Baker, who played national cyber coordinator. "We can straighten out the authorities over time."


Right. As soon as the national emergency ends. (BTW, the nation continues to be under a national emergency since 9/11.)

Chertoff later asked if the military could help. "I don't want to seem like a legal Nervous Nellie," he said.


Chertoff knows that Posse Comitatus was overruled by Section 1076 of the John Warner Defense Authorization Act. And he knows that in October 2008 the 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team went on standby for a year to defend against any homeland emergency. And he knows that

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

...They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

...The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

...The brigade will not change its name, but the force will be known for the next year as a CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force, or CCMRF (pronounced “sea-smurf”).

“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”

...Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.

...“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”


Add to this National Security Presidential Directive 51, which puts the President in charge of all three branches of government during a national emergency, and the OLC memos that provide legal cover for suspending the First and Fourth Amendments, and there's a doomsday scenario right there.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:34 AM
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7. Lee Hamilton, James Baker and Zbrezsinski plot together via
several private and public "boards", task forces, commissions, etc. Always have their fingers involved in WH affairs, no matter which president is in power.

Unsettling assemblage, indeed.
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jbnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:27 AM
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11. Posse Comitatus is back to what it was.
The 2008 Defense Authorization Bill, repeals the changes made in the 2007 bill. It was a rider by Leahy...
I watched his site to see if it would be changed because he was the one who spoke against the change from the start and was detrmined to change it back.
He did.
and bush signed it!
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:54 AM
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14. Hooray for small victories.
God love Leahy.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:52 AM
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8. This will happen the day they start bombing Iran
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 08:08 AM by leveymg
Internet blackout. Martial Law. Electronic Communications Control. ("ECOMCON" - remember the 1960s film, "Seven Days In May?") That will be the end of the United States as a constitutional republic.

Expect what follows to be something like Chile under Pinochet, what the Right-wing Junta termed a "State of Exception" to constitutional rule. Then come the "Fog and Night" measures - a decades-long police state, complete with domestic total surveillance, disappearances, death squads and torture, that lasts until the thing just collapses from exhaustion.

These are the same bastards behind the 9/11 cover-up who are now planning for Track II. Remember the Chilean Coup, 9/11/73, and what followed - The Other 9/11.
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:56 AM
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15. This might explain why those five undersea telecommunication cables
were cut within a week a few years back.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:59 AM
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16. Iran is perfectly safe under China's wing. nt
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:21 PM
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21. More likely when they decide to raise taxes on the middle class.
After all, these horrible deficits 'must' be conquered. And we can't stop financing our military adventures or contractor payments.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 08:13 AM
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10. Richard Clarke stated this was a great concern of his.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 08:13 AM by KittyWampus
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:10 AM
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12. I shouldn't laugh but I can't help it. n/t
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:11 AM
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13. Meh, hacking...
I'm waiting for the EMP. That will shut everyone up.
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:04 PM
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17. Y2K!!!!!!
Be afraid!!! The world is going to end!!!!@

"The event was sponsored by the Bipartisan Policy Center, a Washington-based group headed by Thomas H. Kean and Lee H. Hamilton, who co-chaired the 9/11 Commission."

Say no more.
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Steerpike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:23 PM
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18. Sounds like more Y2K bullshit to me
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 12:25 PM by Steerpike
I can live without a cell phone or computer and so can you...
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:25 PM
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19. Any time this assemblage of power fuckers finds a reason to discuss "putting the Army in US cities"
...that IS unsettling.

A March Madness virus leads to 60 million cell phones on the fritz and then society collapses? Please!

Like someone above says: EMT bombs, that would be a crisis.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:50 PM
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20. Now that we made up a really scary story you must now give us total control of the internet.
We will have to manage all content and people on it. For your own safety of course.
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fedsron2us Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:57 PM
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22. "Soon 60 million cell phones were dead".
Oh Happy Day !!!
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 09:07 PM
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23. Yeah, well...
...they take down DU and they're in for some shit.

Gawd, those names of the dudes running the gig.
That right there makes me fear for DU.

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