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Green_Lantern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:50 PM
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Bayh says new Sen. Brown may be 'cure'
Source: AP

Retiring Democratic Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana said Monday that electing more lawmakers like new Republican Sen. Scott Brown may be the "ultimate cure" for partisan gridlock in Washington.

Brown's upset victory over a Democrat who held a double-digit lead a week before Massachusetts' special Senate election last month signaled that voters wanted "more practical problem solving," Bayh said in an interview Monday on ABC-TV's "The View.

"Scott Brown is a good example of what I think the ultimate cure might be," Bayh said. "My read on what happened in Massachusetts is the vast majority of moderates and independents rose up and said enough already."


He reiterated that Monday, saying the Senate used to be a more polite place. He said senators should be more open to compromise and rely on filibusters less to block legislation.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BAYH_ON_BROWN?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT



Does he really think electing Brown means the filibuster will be used less?
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:52 PM
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1. Just go home and shut up
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 11:55 AM
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66. Leave. Go. Scram.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:53 PM
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2. Democrat says more Republicans are the 'cure.'
See Bush years.

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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:13 PM
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18. He was almost our VP, it was a coin toss.
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warm regards Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:00 PM
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58. What I find even more incredible is the fact that he is walking away
even though his reelection was a certainty.

I could see anyone doing it if they were in the minority, but seldom do you see someone quit who is facing the same circumstances that Bayh was.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:11 PM
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60. If November 2010 is a Dem bloodbath, many rising careers will be ruined
that's just my gut take. Or, it could just be all about the money. The recent SCOTUS decision opens up corporate spending to a whole nuther level. Imagine applying Obama's fundraising ideas to corporations. Whoever spends more is usually the winner. We'll see, right.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:53 PM
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3. I'm a moderate . . .
Scott Brown can kiss my ass.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:54 PM
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4. This from a DLCer who was part of the gridlock problem
I'm going to hurl.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:59 PM
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10. I don't do the DLC bashing thing but. . .
I am truly insulted that a Democrat would point to a Republican as a "solution" to anything. How have Republicans earned this?

Republicans are the problem--not the solution. The solution is getting Republicans out of positions of power so we can continue fix the incredible damage they and their idiotic ideology have caused.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:00 PM
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11. DLCers used to be called moderate Republicans
that's why he's doing this.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:03 PM
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34. I'm smelling something else here. . .
. . . the beginning of some puke spin, offering themselves up as the "moderates."

There is nothing "moderate" about "conservatives" or any Republican.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:09 PM
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39. There used to be.
There used to be a group refered to as "liberal" Republicans. Nelson Rockefeller was part of that crowd and most DLCers are to the right of him.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:18 PM
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68. Hell, Nixon had a better health care plan than the "Democratic" Senate voted for.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 06:49 AM
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72. That worked out well
Didn't it?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:11 PM
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67. Only a Purple Snake would say a Republican is the cure. Only a Purple Snake would,
while Democrats hold a majority of both Houses of Congress, say voters should throw out all incumbents.

A leftie would never say things like that. Never.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:54 PM
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5. Bayh, dearie, just how MUCH more "open to compromise" do you think our
utterly spineless Dem senators should be??? Truly?
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:55 PM
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6. Me to Bayh and every other blue dog in Congress
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:15 PM
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19. .
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:55 PM
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7. Bayh has a proven track record...
... of not knowing what the hell he is talking about, politically.

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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:16 PM
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20. President Obama took him seriously.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:26 PM
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23. I saw him (CSPAN) in a town hall/conference tell the audience that there was no questionable
situation in the Ohio voting for president in 2004 and that the Bush selection in FL in 2000 was a good solution. The topic was election reform.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:56 PM
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8. Bayh has no idea what is going on. Brown is a teabagger who will filibuster anything and everything
the Democrats try to do. As Maher says, he signs his name "41"!
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:33 PM
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69. His name is Scott Brown. He renamed himself "41." What does THAT tell you?
IMA (Independent my ass.)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 01:57 PM
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9. Brown and asshats like Bayh act as if he defeated Kennedy or Kerry. If he had done THAT, then he'd
have some impressive bragging rights. But. He. Didn't.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:03 PM
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12. He really has shown his true colors, hasn't he? nt
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:03 PM
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13. And what has this Brown done, eh Buster?
Drove a big ass truck around?
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av8rdave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:06 PM
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14. I had previously miunderestimated Bayh's level of douchebaggery.
Nice of him to clear that up for me!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:08 PM
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15. Fuck off and Bayh!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:09 PM
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16. To answer your question...
Does he really think electing Brown means the filibuster will be used less?

If he thinks so, he's a fool. If he says it and doesn't believe it, he's a liar.

In any event, we are well shot of him.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:12 PM
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17. This guy is turning out
to be a real a-hole if he thinks that Brown will be bi-partisan. In any case what the hell did this clown do in the senate to prevent stagnation. If I'm not mistaken he was one of those who help cause the gridlock.
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BunkerHill24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:16 PM
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21. Why is this asshat still talking? Can't he just say Good Bye?
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:17 PM
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22. Bayh-partisanship
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rooftoprevolutionary Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:28 PM
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24. Brown aside, does Bayh have a point?
Brown is a blot on our political system, agreed.
But are we throwing stones at Bayh just because of Brown? What else did he say?

In a New York Times Op Ed article, written by Bayh himself, he admits to having used the filibuster, but not just to use it. Now,this could just be him covering his ass, but he makes some good points:

"Challenges of historic import threaten America’s future. Action on the deficit, economy, energy, health care and much more is imperative, yet our legislative institutions fail to act. Congress must be reformed.

There are many causes for the dysfunction: strident partisanship, unyielding ideology, a corrosive system of campaign financing, gerrymandering of House districts, endless filibusters, holds on executive appointees in the Senate, dwindling social interaction between senators of opposing parties and a caucus system that promotes party unity at the expense of bipartisan consensus."

He also makes the good point that we too often fight amongst ourselves, from our respective blue and red sides and fail to see what we're missing in looking at ourselves. We continuously cry out against Republicans and they continuously cry out against us, but isn't this turning into a little bit of the Romeo and Juliet problem, where we hate each other just to hate each other. Are we that true to the extreme blue that we don't even want to dig deeper on people like Bayh to see what he's all about - why he's actually leaving?
I'm not saying we should continue to give the Republicans everything they want, Obama seems to be doing a just stellar job at that. We need to stand our ground on important issues but also realize that this country is made up of 300 million people, most of which are moderates. Compromise doesn't always mean defeat and standing your ground doesn't always mean partisanship.

The two party system needs reform, the senate and house need reform, the whole damn thing needs an overhaul. But Bayh is not the problem, Brown isn't the problem either. The problem is the corporate interests behind them. Dig that out and start the DC cleaning.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:51 PM
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47. Bayh filibustered both the Roberts and Alito nominations. Why
did he do that what most Hoosiers supported the nominations? Well, Bayh was in the early stages of a Presidential run and needed support from the progressive base to have a snowball's chance. It's just like Clinton, Kerry & Edwards voting to authorize military force in Iraq. While at least 2 of the 3 really opposed it but voted for it anyway, the conventional thinking at that time was that nobody voting against would be a viable candidate in 2004.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:30 PM
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25. Yeah, I am sure Brown will stand up to President Palin
should we enter that circle of hell.
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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:34 PM
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26. 拜拜, Bayh (Mandarin for bye-bye, Bayh)
Don't let the Senate door hit you where the good Lord split you! DLC Toad.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:36 PM
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27. Senator---If You Aren't Part of the Solution......
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:37 PM
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28. Hmm...
When he announced his retirement I did have the fleeting thought that he would switch parties and run against Obama as a Republican, but then I said to myself, "Nawww, he's not THAT evil and stupid.".

This praise of Brown makes me think Bayh could just be.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:37 PM
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29. funny how he's been in the news more the past couple of week
than he ever was in his career, it seems...

Bayh needs to go away...Hearing him spew shit is making me miss John Edwards in the news cycle...
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:57 PM
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32. Jumping ship when he can gain the most. He has higher ambitions, more executive type.
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BlueState Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:46 PM
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30. Because adding another Republican to the mix...
Is going to make them compromise and filibuster less.

If filibustering is the problem - ADD ANOTHER DEM!!!
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:56 PM
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31. I'm surprised he didn't just step down immediately so Mitch Daniels could appoint his replacement
Seriously, nothing shocks me with this turd anymore. Knowing he could've been VP is like knowing Lieberman could've been VP.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:30 PM
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44. Indiana has a different procedure - while the Governor appoints
to fill a Senate vacancy, the appointment is made from a slate drawn up from the party of the departing Senator. This way, the appointment doesn't change the Senate "balance of power." Sorry but I don't recall exactly who draws up the slate, but I believe it's the state party central committee or something like that.
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Eric Condon Donating Member (761 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:39 PM
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45. My bad, I actually didn't know that and I live here
Maybe that explains it then - if he could've had Daniels appoint his replacement, then he probably would've stepped down.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 02:58 PM
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33. God what a F**khead
Regardless of who wins his seat, they will have a hard time living down to Sh*t for brains here. The ultimate cure is to get rid of self serving, entitled, sanctimonious pricks like Bayh and replace them with people who will stand up and do their job without equivocation. Franken seems to be the role model for that right now.

Brown will show his true spots as soon as he is forced to vote. I would be willing to lay good money on his being a straight party line voter robot. And then he'll be out in 2 years.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:03 PM
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35. Good riddance!
Time to take out the trash.
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:05 PM
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36. That pretty much clinches what I've thought about Bayh for a long time.
He's basically a corporatist who thinks the progressive wing of his own party is a hell of a lot scarier than the Palin wing of the Republican party--of which Scott Brown is a card-carrying member. If he wants problem solving, he should get the fuck out of the way and let the progressives do what we elected them to do. Every time he opens his yap I'm that much happier he's leaving--it's obvious that, like all of the DLC/Blue Dog/New Democrat types, he's really a Republican at heart.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:07 PM
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37. Makes no sense since Brown's stated goal is to be the 41st vote on gridlock.
Scott Brown: "I'll be the 41st vote, not the 60th vote."

Evan Bayh is a big bag of useless that can't go away fast enough. And my prediction is he will hop over to the Republican Party either before he leaves or shortly thereafter.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:09 PM
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38. Yeah, that's what Bayh would think, all right, that more Republicans
will fix everything! I think that man just got too used to being in the minority and not being expected to do much of anything because the majority Republicans were doing it all without his input.

Yeah, Bayh, the job changed and we need people who will actually do it, not place holders who collect a paycheck for not much of anything besides electioneering every six years.
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potone Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:13 PM
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40. What is Bayh doing?
Why doesn't he just shut up????
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 07:46 PM
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70. Trying to protect the immoral, blood money seeking for profit "health" insurance industry.
I suspect he will be a lobbyist soon.
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DFW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:17 PM
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41. If Scott Brown is the cure for ANYTHING, then we need a new physician
Calling Dr. Dean---EMERGENCY IN WASHINGTON!!!!!!!!!!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:25 PM
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42. Once again bayh demonstrates his incredible knowledge on the subject of
stupidity.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:27 PM
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43. That is BS rationale. How the F*CK is electing a Republican going
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 03:28 PM by harun
to improve compromise in the Senate?

Bayh says:

"Those on my side need to accept half a loaf when the alternative is nothing,"

When the F*CK has the Senate given the Left even half a loaf on ANYTHING? Heck, a crumb?

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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:52 PM
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48. No shit.
We have already bent over for the repukes more than we should have. And where did that get us? A crappy-ass HCR bill that isn't worth the paper it's written on. And they're STILL talking shit about the dems.

Screw the repukes, and screw Bayh.

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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:42 PM
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46. He was an undercover Republican all along.
Good riddance and I hope the Democratic Party wakes up to these whankers in their midst.
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cadmium Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:13 PM
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49. He is more of a dick than I thought he was nt
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:18 PM
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50. He obviously has no understanding of the Massachusetts race. n/t
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:59 PM
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55. The lack of knowledge of Indiana politics here at DU balances that out, I suppose. n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:25 PM
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51. what an asshole
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:28 PM
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52. ?
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?????????


?????????????????????????????????????????????????????





. . .


Truly this guy lives in bizarro world.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:29 PM
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53. I have heard Bayh utter more SHIT since announcing that he's not going to run
than I can recall from all the years he has served in the Senate. Is it wrong to wish a really stubborn case of laryngitis that hurts like a motherfucker every time he activates his piehole?
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:42 PM
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54. shut up, bobble head (nt)
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 06:56 PM
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56. He could be right, you know? Even a stopped clck is right twice a day.
Edited on Mon Feb-22-10 06:56 PM by ColesCountyDem
Donning my flame-proof suit...
;)
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 09:38 PM
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61. Not if it's digital.
:nuke:
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ColesCountyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 11:36 PM
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62. LOL! n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 07:22 PM
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57. So Bayh figures the solution is electing Republicans? I also figured that was the DLC's main...
...motivation; it's good to have one of them finally admit it.

Tesha
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 08:08 PM
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59. Bayh - polls indicated MASS was FOR HCR -- even tho they have theirs already
what a lying piece of shit this man is.

spin spin. left is right. up is down.

religious rightwingers are "democrats."
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 08:50 PM
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71. Not for any ole HCR. For the public option (if not single payer)
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western mass Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 01:26 AM
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63. So Bayh IS the new Lieberman.
Didn't take long to drop the facade and show his true colors.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 09:37 AM
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64. A cure? Let's understand that he voted with a few other moderate in name only republicans
to aloow the bill to go forward. Let's wait and see if he votes for the bill because the RW is now twisting hois arm.
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BostonScorpion Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-23-10 11:15 AM
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65. would he hurry up and..
and go be a lobbyist flunkie for corporate america...oh wait i forgot thats his current job...
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:45 PM
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73. Yeah, right. Infesting Congress with even more corparasites would destroy US democracy.
Sure, gridlock would end, but there would no longer be a need for the Democratic party because they'd all be voting with the republicans.

Exactly what corparasites such as Bayh would like to bring about.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 05:49 PM
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74. that story infuriated me
the last straw for me for Bayh. In the same oped, he also talked about "my side" needing to cooperate with Republicans more!!! No suggestion that Republicans were at all culpable for the current gridlock.

This story nicely dissects Bayh's worthlessness. Headline summarizes the general point:
"Chris Dodd leaves a legacy; Even Bayh leaves a handful of dust"
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/02/16/chris-dodd-leaves-a-legacy-evan-bayh-leaves-a-handful-of-dust?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_poldaily
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