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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:44 PM
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GM India to Hire 1,000 Staff in 2010
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 01:12 PM by daa
Source: WSJ

BANGALORE -- The Indian unit of General Motors Co. said Tuesday it will hire up to 1,000 people in India by the end of 2010 as it increases output to meet rising local demand for its cars and to strengthen its automotive engineering design capabilities.

The company will hire 150 to 200 engineers at its powertrain center in the technology hub of Bangalore, P. Balendran, vice president at General Motors India Pvt. Ltd., told a news conference to launch an automatic transmission version of the Chevrolet Cruze sedan.

He added that GM India will recruit about 800 employees at its two factories in India, where it is looking to ramp up capacity to meet booming customer demand.


Read more: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704188104575083200948890046.html?KEYWORDS=gm+india



So much for exports from Obama Motors.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:55 PM
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1. Expect more of the same as the world economy recovers and jobs lost in the US are outsourced. n/t
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:55 PM
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2. They're takin' our jobs!
Oh, wait...
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:23 PM
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3. I think this is one of the few instances in which the jobs are being
created to produce products to be sold in the country in which the jobs are created. I have no problem with that. Let Americans produce products for the American market. Let the Indians produce products for their market. Fair enough.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:28 PM
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4. I know, but I figured some DUers would assume it was another case of outsourcing.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:07 PM
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11. I take they no longer teach basic import/export principles in schools any more?
Capital has no national allegiance, labor does.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 06:25 PM
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40. Notice, though, the mention of engineering jobs as well.
The odds are high that some Michigan-based engineers will be saying
good-bye to their jobs soon.

Tesha
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:36 PM
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5. aren't these jobs for producing cars that will be sold in india..?
if so, i really don't have a problem with it.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:49 PM
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6. So this is how we double exports in 5 years??????
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 01:50 PM by daa
And you can bet those transmissions will go in US cars. They will not have 2 design centers.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:56 PM
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8. if the cars were built in the u.s., they probably wouldn't get sold in india.
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 01:57 PM by dysfunctional press
due to the tariffs that india imposes.
at least this way- more profit dollars come back to the u.s.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:05 PM
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10. It is not about foreign divises, it is about local jobs
First off if any of those rupees make it back to the US, they will be slightly taxed. Which means we don't get that much back.

However, I assume you think GM's top brass getting brand new vacation homes in Barbados, somehow makes the average laid off auto worker in the US feel better?


Societies with long term vision, don't tend to like it when they are forced to buy a rope to hung themselves with. In the US we are so shortsighted, that we focus on the great deal we just got on rope. LOL
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:08 PM
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35. if the cars can't be sold to india being made in the u.s.- there wouldn't be any local jobs...
:crazy:
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 05:29 PM
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33. I don't understand.
How do the profit dollars come back to the U.S.?

GM, the corporation, will profit. But isn't GM India an offshore subsidiary, which means it is tax exempt? So if no Americans are earning wages from producing those GM cars, and the U.S. Treasury is deriving no tax revenue from their production by and sale to Indians, who beside GM executives and stockholders will benefit?
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 10:09 PM
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36. at this point- the u.s. government is a HUGH gm stockholder.
remember that whole bankruptcy thing last summer?
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:49 PM
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7. here's a related article that might help some of the nay sayers.....
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:03 PM
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9. Did everybody see where Obama's handpicked man, Whiteacre is making a cool $9 mill this year?
:rofl:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:07 PM
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12. He deserves every penny...
You can't attract high-quality candidates like Whitacre without paying them above 7M the least. :rofl:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:10 PM
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13. Yep. Guys with ZERO manufacturing experience (but plenty of personal ties to the Prez) are rare!
"You're doing one heck of a job, Whitey!" :rofl:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:14 PM
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14. And don't forget that he lives in San Antonio and commutes to Detroit...
Via corporate jet of course.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:16 PM
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15.  "Fritz Henderson is back at GM, for $3,000 an hour"
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:19 PM
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16. $3K an hour!!! WTF?
I should undercut him, I can fuck things as badly for a mere $1.5K an hour. Boom 50% savings right there... GM, call me.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:22 PM
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17. It just goes to show that Whiteacre is a mere crony, and that Henderson is needed to actually RUN
the company. So basically, $9 million in taxpayer funds to one of the President's buddies.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:26 PM
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19. I wonder if he and Obama talk on the commute from San Antonio.
I'm sure the bar is fully stocked on the corporate jet as well.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:33 PM
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20. He's flying economy class compared to Pelosi.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:34 PM
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21. Wonder who's the Courvoisier drinker is?
Don't worry, I can drink for both of us.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:25 PM
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18. Of course. He has a Harvard MBA.
:rofl:
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:37 PM
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22. I guess Americans should all start moving to India
Take the damn jobs back!
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:53 PM
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24. I guess you missed a post a while back where
IBM would help you move to India to work your old job n rupees. This is how it starts. 750,000 IT jobs were lost in the last decade in this country. IBM had almost 200,000 US workers in 2000 and my job along with another 100,000 US jobs were transfered to India and or Brazil. When they design a program or answer a help line it isn't in India it is for here.

Whitacre outsourced AT&T jobs to India, including engineering jobs. So YOU go up to Detroit and tell experienced fired US engineers that know how to build a transmission that their government and president own GM but they need inexperienced Indian engineers that don't even own an automobile to design transmissions.

Its easy to mention the assembly jobs and ignore the fact that Walmart cannot open a store in India due to their protectionism. But as one poster above put, GM is adding back workers at Lordstown for the new Chevy and you just read where the start of the design process is moving to India.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:20 PM
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27. IBM did actually give that option to some of their employees being outsourced...
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 03:24 PM by liberation
I think that they did not offer to cover "moving expenses" for those who took the offer though. Ain't globalization grand: we now can experience the thrill of having to move half a world away, to enjoy 3rd world living standards with a matching salary, and having to pay for the move.

Funny though, executive positions are seldom "outsourced"
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:20 PM
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28. The jobs are for building cars for customers in India, genius.
:eyes:
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Juneboarder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:35 PM
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29. A job is a job...
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:38 PM
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30. And the damn engineers 200 if you can read
are going to the DESIGN CENTER and they are not designing Indian transmissions.

From the GM India career page:

"General Motors Technical Centre – India is a 100% subsidiary of the automobile legend, General Motors Corporation USA. This centre at ITPL Bangalore will house the R&D and Engineering Centre that will focus on engineering and research and development work in support of GM’s global portfolio."

So before you repeat yourself again, it is global not Indian.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:51 PM
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31. And where is outsourcing mentioned?
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 03:51 PM by Starbucks Anarchist
These jobs weren't created by layoffs in America.

And what about the other 800 jobs?
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:52 PM
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23. Outsource the CEOs.
This is ridiculous.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:55 PM
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25. They did. Unfortunately it was to one of the Prez's buddies in Texas. nt
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:11 PM
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26. We are the world, we are the children...
We're as responsible for this "We are the world" mentality as the Repukes are.
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Mike K Donating Member (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 05:06 PM
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32. I am simple-minded.
I have no sophistication when it comes to business and economics. But I am old enough to remember when America was American and things were simpler and better. We made American cars in America by American workers, we sold them overseas, unemployment was very low and the economy was just fine. Simple, but good in every way.

Now I learn that the same General Motors, an American corporation, in India, is hiring Indians to make General Motors cars and there is something upside-down and sideways about that. It's complicated. And although I'm not capable of understanding the complication I am acutely aware that it corresponds with a time when the American Experiment seems to be failing in every important way.

This corporation, General Motors, owes its phenomenally successful existence to America, so what the hell is it doing over in India? How does America benefit from its presence there? And are there any rules in place to ensure that appropriate tariffs will be imposed on any parts made in India by Indian workers and shipped to America?

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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 07:09 PM
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34. It's no different than Toyota and Hyundai building cars here.
Automakers expand into different markets. It doesn't make good business sense to have all their manufacturing done in their home countries if they're selling all over the world.
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daa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:16 AM
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37. Yes the hell it IS different which is why we have no trade SURPLUS
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:18 AM
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39. Um, jinx? nt
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:18 AM
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38. Except that Japan has a massive trade SURPLUS with the world, and we have a massive DEFICIT
You forgot that part. :hi:
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