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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 04:56 PM
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US offensive in bid to sell F-18 jets to Brazil
Source: Agence France-Presse

US offensive in bid to sell F-18 jets to Brazil
by Mauricio Rabuffetti Mauricio Rabuffetti – 1 hr 9 mins ago

RIO DE JANEIRO (AFP) – The arrival of a giant US aircraft carrier here Friday with F/A-18 jet fighters aboard is a step in Washington's offensive to win a multi-billion-dollar contract to supply Brazil's air force with modern jet fighters.

US Rear Admiral Ted Branch told reporters that the visit of the USS Carl Vinson is aimed at improving ties with the Brazilian navy following mercy operations in quake-stricken Haiti, and work with Brazilian personnel from the UN peacekeeping force in that country.

However, the presence of the nuclear powered craft and the Super Hornet fighters on its deck, along with Boeing representatives on land, are a clear sign of a US push to convince Brazil to buy the US-made planes.

Brazil's air force is seeking to buy 36 new jet fighters, and will choose between three finalists: France's Rafale, a fighter made by Dassault; the Gripen NG jet from Sweden's Saab; and the F/A-18 Super Hornet from US group Boeing.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100226/pl_afp/brazildefensefranceswedenus



(Just as the Sec. of State's pending trip to Brazil is announced....)
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:14 PM
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1. Death and War R-Us.. that's all we can do anymore...
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:24 PM
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3. They wanna buy fighter jets,
why not ours? Are they any less war-oriented for wanting fighter planes than we are for supplying them? :shrug:
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:15 PM
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2. What a strange little tie in.
"US Rear Admiral Ted Branch told reporters that the visit of the USS Carl Vinson is aimed at improving ties with the Brazilian navy following mercy operations in quake-stricken Haiti, and work with Brazilian personnel from the UN peacekeeping force in that country."

See, I meet this guy down in Haiti and i thought , WOW, we should sell him some military hardware because he seems like such a great guy.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:26 PM
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4. hey atleast it could create jobs
or save jobs in the US

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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 05:46 PM
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5. Sell them the carrier too
Use the proceeds to pay for basic necessities like health care.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:10 PM
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6. carrier has much more dollar value in use as it is
rather than the $6 billion you would get from selling it. I think that would cover maybe 2 days worth of american's healthcare....doesnt seem like a good investment to me

nor could could brazil afford such a weapon- i think it would cover close to 1/4 of their entire budget
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 06:32 PM
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7. Brazil already has a carrier.
They bought a used one from france (ex-Foch) and it's all they could afford.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:52 PM
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10. bergie321
bergie321

As long as it is an nuclear carrier I seriosy doubt that US wil sell a carrier to anyone... To mutch top srecret and abowe in a nuclear carrier you know...

On the other side, why should Brazil have a nuclear carrier, they have more or less what they can eat with the ex Foch as it is, and as I have understand it, the carrier they have, are in port most of the time... Why in the world should Brazil get a tvice as big nuclear powered carrier, who would eat up most of the military budget.. Its long since Brazil was ruled by the generals you know.. And todays politicals have some duty to the peopole of Brazil not just to have new toys to play around with

Diclotican
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Rapier09 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:16 PM
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8. Is that why we are not backing the UK over the Falks?

Because we really really need to unload some crap........


Oh god help us.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:57 PM
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11. Ownership of the Falklands is debated between...
Argentina(not Brazil)and the UK.
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Rapier09 Donating Member (209 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:19 PM
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12. Yes but I assume that Brazil isn't going to back the UK regardless


France,which has a region which borders Brazil,might on the other hand.Which could lead to Brazil looking for an other vendor.Bearing in mind that Brazilian-French ties run deep.

As for sending a gunboat named after a man who supported segregation to his dying day,that could be interpreted in a couple ways.



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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 05:41 AM
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14. UK doesnt really need our backing on that one.
I'm sure they will be fine.
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:20 PM
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9. isn't brazil one of the good guys - as in progressive government? nt
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 09:05 AM
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15. every country
needs some form of a warfighting capability
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seeinfweggos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-27-10 03:15 PM
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16. yeah, i know, you misunderstood me
i brought up their progressive government to point out this isn't like we are selling weapons to "bad guys" - at least not in this instance, not to question their "good guy" status.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 10:22 PM
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13. Better to buy a used 20+ US fighter plane than a new Russian plane.
Because russian military technology is notorious for being unsafe.
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