FBI Investigating Cut Gas Line At Home Of Dem Rep's Brother

Source: TPM

After a tea party organizer published the address of the brother of Rep. Tom Perriello (D-VA) in a blog post urging anti-health reform activists to "drop by," someone cut a propane gas line at the house, Politico is reporting.

In the Periello case, an activist named Mike Troxel of the Lynchburg Tea Party wrote a blog post telling activists to add a "personal touch" to their anger at Periello -- who voted yes on the health care bill -- by going to his house. But Troxel mistakenly posted the address of Periello's brother.

The blog post was apparently published on the site virginia6th.teapartywatchdogs.com , which is now down.
(You can read a cached version of what is apparently Troxel's response to Politico's original piece here.)




Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/fbi_investigating_cut_gas_line_at_home_of_dem_reps.php

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JFC these shitbags are SICK!

Seriously.. these teabagging terrorists need to be held accountable for their actions.. arrest and prosecute!

And, of course, from 2000 to 2009, their very leaders in charge of the US of A did exactly what they wanted, lawful or not, and nothing's happened to them! So naturally they can do anything they want.

Remember how they had a hissy fit about how Clinton's behavior sent baaaaad signals to the people....how everyone liberal was going to be getting blow jobs at work (we were doing that BEFORE Clinton! We're not afraid of sex!) But ever since Iran Contra, repugs have gotten away with everything. And it's a lot worse than lying about sex (which they also do unendingly!)

why is his white republican ass sitting in jail right now. I think the secret service, since hired by republicans has a bias against democrats, else why are they ignoring these situations. While bush was in one of his stolen terms a kid not a teenager wore a shirt to school saying they thought bush was a terroist, and with out the benefit of the childs parents they went to school and were going to arrest him.

From everything I heard, politics plays nothing in the way they handle these things. These men and women are some of the most well trained people we have in government service. The FBI and CIA are politically motivated, the SS and US Marshals are the least political of the law enforcement agencies.

we need the Fairness in Broadcasting Act restored --

Yesterday, I spoke to a young man in Walmart -- my first visit there ever to buy a copy

of Michael Moore's "Capitalism." Was also looking for "Sicko" which I'd seen but wanted

to have a copy of it. They couldn't find "Capitalism" but I found it --

"Sicko" I never found, but he mentioned that he wasn't much on Michael Moore.

I asked him if he was against health care.

He said he thought he was too young to need it yet. And I assured him that illness can strike

at any age. Then he told me that he actually had a shunt in the back of his neck to drain

fluid from his brain! I told him it sounded to me like he actually needs health care NOW.

He told me he couldn't get insurance.

Then I told him about some of the points of the Obama HC plan -- ending pre-existing conditions.

Life time caps, etal. He was only 25.

Also, reminded him his parents would probably need Social Security and Medicare.

He told me he knew nothing about the plan! I suggested he go to his library and find a copy

of "Sicko" -- and also check in to find out some other things about the current health care

reform discussions.

Maybe he will -- but not enough info is getting out there to break thru the right wing block!

so much of what passes off as "journalism" is little more than propaganda from the RW.

We do need to get more info out, honest info...:hi:

Why are they allowed to incite violence and get away with it? Does someone have to ACT on it?
Can someone offer an answer because I dont understand?

Fortunately, they didn't just blow up the propane tank.

People with non-Conservative election signs in their yards started getting their brake lines cut in a few cities, mainly due to the Republican influence on politics here.

The McCain/Palin signs were never touched.

It is an ugly side of the human experience that we are dragging up with the muckrakers.

The last election was the first time we saw homicide attempts against random voters, though.

to put an Obama sign in my yard. Everyone had Kerry signs in 2004. But this ain't about racism, no.

see how many support liberal ideals -- MEDICARE FOR ALL --

Americans don't really talk to one another about politics -- maybe that's

changing, but it's why I've long been recommending that we all wear

MEDICARE FOR ALL buttons. More than 77% of Americans support single payer/

MEDICARE type health care.


And that includes Catholics, as well by 73% and more --

and they want reproductive care to be included --

and Contraception --

And they want ABORTION covered in either a government run health care program

or private insurance -- and that's by more than 50%+

Here in NJ in my town, it's almost impossible to keep a sign for Democrats on display.

They've even drive cars up onto people's lawns to knock them down.

And since our town council is majority Repug, we get little support to change this practice!

You should see the Tea Party talking points that were put into the last Bridgewater Town Newsletter. I think I need to move to Montclair. Or Lodi. Newark. Jersey City. Somerset County is not for me.

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Forward this email to everyone you know in New Jersey who cares about reproductive health and reproductive freedom.

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Also we have a town newspaper which is obviously right wing -- sometimes viciously so.
They went so nuts at one point a few months ago that the fascism was dripping off the pages!!
Think it woke some people up, but not sure?

:)

way out they break more laws. Look at all the examples from the Bushes to the Baggers.

I've been watching Rachel Maddow who did a great job on this tonight ...

and Repug leadership -- Bonier - etal show no hesitancy about their actions.

I'd say these people were selected because they reflect the people who hired them

to run for office and they reflect the true values of those who control the GOP.

Sexist, racist, homophobic -- suicidally insane!

into a corner and they will not be able to give the radicals, that they created, the crazy things the will demand. It will come back and over power them. I think it is already happening.

We can only hope that there is a cooling and settling of this outrage against imaginary overblown rhetoric.

it had to begin to become clear to us how the leaders of the GOP move

their aggressive followers into attack mode!

It's much more out in the open right now and we should be taking this very,

very seriously -- every bit of it!

This is clearly how right wing political violence gets put in motion -- and we've

had 50 years and more of it destroying our democracy. It's the right wing leadership

which creates the environment for violence.

when I was at a MoveOn meeting back in '06.

Wow.

I am passionate about politics but I am not about to commit an act of violence or terrorism to get my point across.

and a Liberty University grad at that!

http://wonkette.com/414397/teabagger-tries-to-harass-congressmans-house-lists-wrong-address-stands-by-his-journalism#more-414397#ixzz0j20ZNQrD

:think:

I like it!!!
:D

:kick:

divorce themselves from this idiocy? Really, if they don't, it'll be the death of the party!

Glad the FBI is on the case...on another thread today, I asked that exact question: when do the feds get involved? I guess a cut gas line is the start!

Remember, the opening salvo in the Nazi war against Jews was smashing windows of businesses owned by Jews. It's frightening how history keeps repeating itself every time a new generation of brownshirted thugs arises.

A cut propane line could have endangered more than a Representative's brother and family. It could have endangered the whole area, depending on the proximity of other houses.

The FBI needs to start dealing with the violent right in this country, something that will require a sea change in that organization. They've been too busy going after Raging Grannies and Quakers when the real threat is from the far right and always has been.

Democracies have always been overthrown by the far right. There are no exceptions.

If they don't, then they are as much to blame as these scumbag Teapartiers.

because they'd gotten so close to fascism and don't want to see it derailed.

If it seems like they hate everything that was ever good about this country, it's because they do.

These madpeople must be stopped, before someone gets killed.

From Politico:

In an interview with POLITICO, Troxel admitted to writing the post and said that he has no intention of removing the address from the blog.

Troxel found the address through a directory website and said he would only replace what he currently has on the blog with an address provided by Perriello’s office.

“If they would like to provide me with the address of Tom, then I’d be more than happy to take it down,” he said. “I have no reason to believe it’s not his house.”

-snip-

Troxel, a 2005 graduate of Liberty University, added “I was a journalism major in college, so I have every reason to believe my research is accurate.”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34843.html

It does not excuse this kind of malicious, criminal behavior.

these people are dangerous, and Troxel is an evil joke.

Is it going to take a death? Because then it will be too late....

A deranged wingnut shot up a church in Knoxville and killed two people.

A racist right-wing gun nut murdered three Pittsburgh Police officers last year for fear of a nonexistent "Obama gun ban."

Dr. Tiller was assassinated by a violent pro-lifer.

A Holocaust museum was shot up by a deranged neo-Nazi.

The FBI/ATF need to start taking this shit seriously. They apparently still haven't, in spite of the fact that these TERRORISTS have already committed acts of violence.

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Liberty University is a terrorist training camp (and a really crappy school.)

for the links.

These lunatics think they are doing God's work and saving America from socialism.

One of the great ironies of history is that, because of it's origins, the RW Authoritarian Nazis called themselves "National Socialists".

But they believed in the nationalism and not the socialism.

Just like our modern RW Authoritarian Republics don't believe in the Republic, really, but that's what they are called soin order to keep "brand continutity" they can't change it

very disturbing.

During WWII the largest ethnic group in the U.S. was the German American. Hitler was not looked upon all that unkindly by Americans in general. And we certainly held no animosity toward the German people.

It was only after the attack on Pearl Harbor when Hitler declared war on the U.S. that things started to change. And then we only started to HATE the Germans/Nazis after we found that they had engaged in cruelty and violated the Geneva Convention*.

Not only are there similarities but the exact same people could be perpetrating this round. The idea that we purged the U.S. of deep cover Nazis after WWII is probably wishful thinking.

*The Geneva Convention was taken very seriously in those days. It is only since the Dubya Bush Administration that we see the Geneva Convention as quaint and only in this country.

As a native Virginian and as someone who travels through that area several times a year I can say with certainty that that part of Virginia is bat shit crazy. It is just a strange part of the state situated between Roanoke and Charlottesville. They used to be represented by Virgil Goode. Need I say more. Guns god and jesus. I sometimes feel ashamed to say that I am from Virginia. I usually tell people I am from Northern Virginia. The police or Feds need to step up quickly because someone is going to get hurt or killed by these idiots.

And I know what you mean. Most of my family still lives there. I left in 1991 though and haven't been back since 2004. You are so right though. Hopefully someone will put a stop to this kind of behavior. A few arrests and fines on media stations and internet carriers transmitting hateful rhetoric inciting people towards violence would go a long way to restoring reasonable dialog and backing us away from danger.

The whole thing reminds me of Rwanda. It's crazy!

of the Republican party- Bachmann(sp), Palin, and the others that yell out obscene statements while on the floor of Congress. Never thought I'd see the Republican party stoop to this level. Even Rep. Clyburn said that this is becoming as bad as the 60's. He should know, he was there.

make an example,,,,before any others get the same idea and start copying this

what does it take? someone getting killed by these assholes?

the people in the Unitarian church etc, might say it's already begun. And I blame the spinelessness of so much of our party's leadership in not stridently speaking and acting against this sort of thing as much as I blame Beck, Limbaugh et al for stirring these hate-filled ignoramuses up. Janet Napolitano apologized (OF COURSE) for daring to suggest that right wing violence was a danger. The question is not when are they going to start killing people ( and it's just lucky that the cut gasline didn't kill a bunch of people) but how many more will they kill before serious action is taken? Of course, I suppose the national Democratic party could issue a strongly worded letter. That's been our main tactic so far, and it's always worked like a charm.

x(

Why wouldn't troglodytes in the GOP think they can do anything they want.... their war criminals are on Sunday talk shows!

If the Dems and Obama would start enforcing some laws... then people might think twice (of course they have to think 1st to begin with)

Maybe a modern production of Shakespeare's "Measure for Measure" would be interesting.... if anyone thought "art" was important these days.

I can just imagine if Eric Holder and the corporate democrats who run our party now were in charge of Nuremburg...." OK, you've been very bad boys, now don't do this again...run along now, we're going to just look forward and hope you'll be good little boys and girls from now on."

yesterday and people on this board jumped all over me. WTF?

O well, I agree with you. It has already begun. Wasn't there also the democratic chair in Arkansas during the election? Anyway it is important to take some sort of action to dissuade this type of behavoir. Perhaps a fines on internet portals hosting hate sites promoting violence, and fines on TV and Radio stations where entertainment personalities incite violence as well? These guys are republicans, they worship money. If promoting hate costs them they might reconsider....

Maybe?

Jeez, even if people disagreed you'd think they could do it respectfully instead of jumping all over those they disagree with, but unfortunately there's too much of that here. I actually thanked a guy who posted a disagreement with me a couple of days ago for doing it in an informed and civil manner, because that was such a breath of fresh air ; having a civil debate over an issue.Anyway, I would be surprised at this point for there ever to be any repercussions for these bastards in the hate radio and TV biz. They've been allowed to grow ever more openly hateful, racist and full of nothing but lies for so long, that any attempt to reel them in now would just be exploited by them as more liberal oppression. The time to stop it, I fear, has passed. I suppose the MSM may eventually wring its hands and call for "both sides" to tone it down as if it were an equal problem on both sides ( gotta keep it fair and balanced of course).But that still would let them off the hook for the poisonous atmosphere they've helped create, because the average uninformed citizen wouldn't figure out that it's just been one side doing this. I hope my pessimism is misplaced, but I'm very afraid that "there's a bad moon on the rise".

Their only answers are lies/smearing, hatred/bigotry and violence. THIS IS ALL A RESULT OF US ALLOWING THE GLENN BECKS AND RUSH LIMBAUGHS TO STAY ON THE AIR. IF THESE NEANDERTHAL ENTERTAINERS DON'T DENOUNCE THIS VIOLENCE, THEY SUPPORT IT.

Attacking an unintended target. It doesn't matter, the intent to do intimidate and potentially do bodily harm was the same.

said it was probably "Democratic operatives". Typical Repug response.

Republican operatives do, and they're proud of it.

Psychopath and "what???"

on my car. i'm afraid of the nut jobs.

A dangerous combination.

I have a sticker on the back window that reads, "Want to save the 'Sanctity of Marriage?' Outlaw divorce." This is merely to counter the numerous "Marriage = One man + One woman" bumper stickers.

It's without a doubt one of the most surreal places I've ever been to.

I'm in Texas, It just isn't safe right now

I won't back down. It's my civil right to have a choice too. These assholes are not going to terrorize me.

I will not live in fear even though I AM genuinely afraid of these people. I also however will not judge those who think their particular area is genuinely dangerous right now to proclaim their liberal views for all the world to see on their vehicles. But yeah, for myself, the hell if I'm gonna let myself be intimidated one bit.

I don't have one on my car, but I may go ahead and get one to spite the conservatives here.

my "War Doesn't Work" bumper sticker BUT they left the "Universal Single-Payer Health care" one....:shrug:

I need to clean my bumper and put up a new one, "Peace: It's still a good thing."

get on the floor and say this behavior isn't right and it needs to stop. I also told her that we pay for a full days work and I expect him to work a full day. Call or e-mail your senator and let them know.

saying that they had a meeting with the Republican side. In the interview they said that silence is condoning these actions, etc.

As for the full days work, I don't profess to know what our Congressmen and Congresswomen are doing when not "on the floor". I would assume that they are in their offices working. I certainly wouldn't criticize them at this time. They have been there for many, many hours (many times, they stay in session late into the evening, as they did for the HCR vote) and have worked very hard for us these past weeks, and we should be saying thank you to them rather than criticizing them regardles of whether you are happy or not happy about the outcome. Hoyer even said, during the referenced interview, that these Congressmen have not been home to see there families, and are further being required to stick around in the event that the Senate changes anything on the reconcilliation (so the House will be available to immediately work on it). Also the Senate is currently in the 20 hour debate for reconcilliation and will also be there late in the evening.

criminal defense attorneys when he gets charged with whatever, and the civil lawsuit to follow.

And the teabaggers are going to hate me by the time I'm done.

They need to put all resources to catch the terrorist that did this.

This has gotten way out of hand.

about these violent clowns.

Eric Cantor: "No one should condone uncivil behavior". He didn't directly name the people responsible for this behavior, nor did he specifically mention what that behavior was. So he was blaming everyone? What a jackass!

And "jackass" is WAY too civil a term for Cantor.

I can't believe that it has come to this.

Koch Brothers and John Birchers.

I'm sure there's some variation in what can be proved at grand jury or trial, but I wonder how much defending on this will cost him, given his statements during and after the Politico interview.

(Domestic terrorism - influencing government policy by threat or violence) http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002331----000-.html
(Conspiracy to attempt the wounding/killing of a Congressman) http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00000351----000-.html
(Criminal solicitation) http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-29
(Harassment by computer) http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-152.7C1

And, last but not least...
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-186.4
That's enough to give him a criminal record, which may cut short his career aspirations.

figure and has the right to privacy. This should result in at least a huge civil suit.

Makes me once again ashamed to be a Virginian. I've said it before and I'll say it again - we need to cut the top half of VA off and secede from THEM.

I guess the GOP are now the American Taliban... Investigate, Prosecute, convict, imprison.

due to angry feedback from hordes of sane people, or if the site was shut down by someone else?

I think President Obama needs to come out VERY strong & forceful that this behavior is treason an nothing better than homeland terrorism...these creeps need to be called out LOUDLY for INCITING violence! From the moment we had things being said during the campaign, I am sure President Obama knew it was probably going to get uglier. But there has GOT to be a stopping point. I am really scared at the possibilities for this open carry gun rally near DC too :scared:

WHY isn't the media more on this crap? why is rachel the only one connecting those dots and even so, why was she so mellow about it last night?


We need to shine the light on them and watch them scatter back to their collective cracks in the floorboards where they belong!
ack!

over their districts on a map, telling her followers "Don't retreat--RELOAD!"




She should be arrested for being the head of the American Taliban.

...afterall it is our right and these sick motherfuckers are cowards when confronted with an equally armed foe.

Call them what they are. Terrorist! Terrorist Teabaggers. I hope they confiscated the nut's computer who put up the address. I'm sure there is a lot more in that computer that will bring more arrests.

That is exactly right!

Don't we have laws for dealing with terrorist?

It's ashame isn't it?

And still nothing is being done about the threat these people pose.

"isolated incidents"...You can't blame the right wing for "isolated incidents"....

:sarcasm: (was that really necessary?)

who these sickos will target.

God,I'm sick of the frickin' Teabaggers. Why does the media give them so much credence? Nevermind. Don't answer that. I know why.

Mike Troxel of the Lynchburg Tea Party published an address on his website and told his friends to go there. That's not in question.

The address Troxel gave out was for Tom Perriello's brother's home. That's also not in question.

At least one of his friends went to Perriello's brother's home and cut the propane line, causing an illegal release of hazardous materials. If the gas would have reached its Lower Explosive Limit and subsequently ignited, the resulting detonation could have done serious damage--if the quantity of gas was great enough, it could have formed a Fuel Air Explosive, one of the most devastating explosions around. It's not out of the realm of thinking the explosion could have leveled the neighborhood. Yes, FAEs are that powerful. Anyway, we can skip over the conjecture about what "might" have happen and concentrate on the release of hazmat, which is not in question.

What needs to happen:
1 Mike Troxel needs to be in jail, right now, on charges of incitement. I consider him a flight risk, so I wouldn't grant hum bail.

2. If Troxel can't produce the name of the person who cut the line, charge him with that too. Eventually we should be able to get into PATRIOT Act territory.

3. Arrest Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin for incitement. Since none of them are in Virginia and the incident happened there, we're into federal territory now as this crosses state lines. What is it, Beck is in NYC, Palin's in Alaska and Limbaugh's in Florida?

4. We also need to begin a RICO investigation against the Republican National Committee. It might be hard to argue they are Racketeer Influenced but there is no question they are Corrupt.

I don't want much...just Mike Troxel in the Virginia state pen, three of the loudest Republican mouths doing Federal time and the Republican Party permanently disbanded.

I am incensed after reading Sarah Palins website. She is clearly inciting people to violence.

There are more than sufficient grounds to arrest.

I do not fear these tea bagger nazi's, i have the right to do what i want, i stll have kerry and obama sticker's on my car, and if i see anyone try to break or vandalize my car, i retaliate.

Nothing more. Nothing less.

Fullest extent of the Law for anyone involved.

It's time to address these crimes for what they are. I would not wish them on anyone. Stop This.

The FBI needs to bust some of those thugs. NOW!

The FBI needs to infiltrate these whackjob Teabagger groups and FAST!

knows Troxel. she's a good Dem and she said she knew he was a teapartier, but had no clue he was as nuts as he is.

ALL Dems would be standing against it --

and Republicans would be calling for hangings and impeachemnt!!

I smell a song parody of this Ludacris's latest hit.

Hell back in 2006 Michelle Malkin got in a lot of trouble for posting contact info of anti-war college students on her blog.

away before he causes anymore harm, if not I don't think we have seen the last of him.

also in Nov'09....I read the comments about the VA incident in this local VA paper linked below ... the reader comments tell me these folks are not sorry + not living in reality(SEIU, or maybe Rahm E. did it are two takes on the issue). :crazy:
http://www2.dailyprogress.com/cdp/news/national/national_govtpolitics/article/gas_lines_severing_at_home_of_perriellos_brother_prompts_fbi_probe/54041/

They have some serious problems....unfortunately they are now innocent people's problem too.

I understand that the census worker had staged the scene to make it appear as a lynching but the investigation determined otherwise. Is there evidence to the contrary?

That doesn't mean it actually was. Maybe to throw the teabaggers off?

Believe it or not. I don't.

That's when they really stop being annoying and start becoming dangerous.

as a contemporary Kristalnacht analogue. Spitting on a Congressman and calling him a nigger are assaults and issuing threats of violence can be interpreted as domestic terrorism. But the cutting of a gas line, presumably attaching an outdoor propane tank to an outdoor barbecue grill, an act which does nothing more harmful than emptying the tank into the night air, is essentially nothing more than an act of malicious but harmless vandalism, a simple destruction of property, and trying to present it as comparable to planting a bomb or a realistic attempt at arson is a self-defeating exaggeration. Because the relatively harmless nature of such impotent, sneaky vandalism will eventually be revealed and making too much of it can be counterproductive in terms of public opinion.

It's fine to mention it but there should not be attempts to treat it as if it were a Molotov cocktail tossed through a window, as some Progressive talkers are doing. It should be kept in perspective.

Just grab the IPs of whoever looked at the blog and map them out, send agents to go visit whoever's close by.