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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:13 PM
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Obama Says He'll Veto Financial Reform Without Derivatives Controls
Source: Talking Points Memo

Obama Says He'll Veto Financial Reform Without Derivatives Controls
Rachel Slajda | April 16, 2010, 2:01PM


Before meeting with his economic advisers today, President Obama told reporters he'd veto any financial regulatory reform bill that doesn't "bring the derivatives market under control."

"We can't allow history to repeat itself," he said.

Financial reform is being worked on in the Senate right now. Majority Leader Harry Reid said yesterday that he hopes to see a bill on the floor next week.


Read more: http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/obama-says-hell-veto-financial-reform-without-derivatives-controls.php
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:14 PM
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1. YES!.
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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:05 PM
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16. Somebody Found His Manhood
About time Mr. President.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:15 PM
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2. I know I have heard that ---
somehwere before....

I sure as hell hope this time he means it. And DOES it.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:17 PM
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3. What exactly did he promise to veto before that he did not?
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:20 PM
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4. Nothing. Obama has scrupulously *not* threatened veto threats on legislation yet.
If he did so here, it is indeed a line in the sand.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:21 PM
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5. Correct, They Are Really Making A Stand Here
Love it!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:22 PM
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6. Lots of baseless accusations being thrown around this morning.
I'm picking them out one by one.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:24 PM
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7. The "Obama Is A Corporate Tool" Tools Are Really Having Conniptions
It's pretty funny. The cognivitive dissonance is really starting to sink in.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:07 PM
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17. I don't think cognitive dissonance means what you want it to mean...
LOL
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:13 PM
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18. It Means Corporate Tool
:rofl:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 03:42 PM
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31. The same Obama who said he would veto a bill without Public option?
Edited on Wed Apr-21-10 03:43 PM by Statistical
THEN DIDN'T.

So how is saying you will veto a bill without derivative regulation any different?
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:26 PM
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9. Wrong quote - be right back.
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 01:26 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:27 PM
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10. So the exchange in the law isn't real?
Or is it just not real to you?
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:40 PM
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13. He never said he'd veto the bill but he did say the exchange MUST include a public option
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/07/obama-demands-the-bill-i-sign-must-include-public-option.php


Any plan I sign must include an insurance exchange: a one-stop shopping marketplace where you can compare the benefits, cost and track records of a variety of plans - including a public option to increase competition and keep insurance companies honest - and choose what's best for your family.





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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:43 PM
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26. This is the first veto threat the President has made to my knowledge
Which to me signals that he doesn't make veto threats he doesn't think he can keep. If he's threatening a veto it means he's not fucking around.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:18 PM
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19. I don't think that's true
say what you will about Obama, I don't think he has falsely threatened a veto.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:24 PM
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8. good nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:29 PM
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11. Good. We need to have someone controlling that market!
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:38 PM
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12. More change we can believe in!
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:43 PM
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14. Sure. And any healthcare bill he signs must include a public option.
And he's going to repeal DADT this year. And close Gitmo.

Riiiiiiiiiight.

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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 01:47 PM
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15. That sounds pretty explicit. nt
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:28 PM
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20. it is what's needed
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 02:33 PM by florida08
and after 8 years of a casino economy with a NO HOLDS BARRED style of governing, it's good to see. You certainly would NOT get anything close to this under a GOP presidency

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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 02:35 PM
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21. Clearly we need derivatives control..
I cannot believe any financial reform bill would not have included it.. have they learned nothing?!?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:10 PM
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22. I hope this is true. n/t
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:23 PM
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23. When the hell are they going break up the banks? We need Glass-Steagall! nt
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:28 PM
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24. Yes n/t.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 04:42 PM
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25. Damn. Where did this guy come from?
:applause:
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-16-10 07:42 PM
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27. The REAL Reason Why McConnell Is Opposing The Bill!
Watch Tea Partiers rally to the defense of Wall Street!
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 03:07 AM
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28. I'll really be impressed when he clears the financial criminals out of his economic team
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:28 AM
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30. And the legislative climate conducive to financial crime.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 04:16 AM
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29. If Obama learned the lessons of the past, why is the WH insisting that "too big to fail" continue
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 04:37 AM by No Elephants
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4346732


A few entities now control 60% of our gross national product. That's too big to fail. And that's only the U.S., not the global picture. Globally, they're downright impossible to allow to fail.


This may be a good step, BUT, ban derivatives and they will come up with something else that investors can't understand.

You need a broader definition of what banks/Wall Street can and cannot do.

No one in 1929 had even dreamed of derivatives, yet we still had a crash based on fleecing the investing public. We didn't bail out the crooks then.

After that, FDR and his team created a template. Leave anti-trust laws of cousin Teddy in place, create the FDIC, the SEC, etc.--and make them do their jobs. Pass Glass Steagall. Employ the unemployed (instead of bailing out the greedy manipulators who created the Depression).

Starting with Reagan, we began dismantling all that.

Unlike FDR, this administration has the template. It does not have to re-invent the wheel, just polish it up a bit. But, Bernanke, who is supposed to be an expert on the Depression, appears to be recommending something different.

Elizabeth Warren doesn't think a hell of a lot of Dodd's bill. I think I'll stick with Professor's Warren's view.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Warren

Check out this week's Bill Moyers' Journal, too, his interview with Simon Johnson and James Kwak.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04162010/profile.html
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04162010/transcript1.html

While at the site, you may want to search for Moyer's interviews with Professor Warren and also his interview with reporters from Mother Jones.

Too much work? Just cheer, then, if you're a Democrat and boo if you're a Republican. And save your pennies for the next bail out and the next jobless economic "recovery."
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