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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:49 PM
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Secret Prison for Sunnis Revealed in Baghdad
Edited on Sun Apr-18-10 10:51 PM by Hissyspit
Source: Los Angeles Times

Secret prison for Sunnis revealed in Baghdad

Forces under the office of Prime Minister Maliki held hundreds of Sunnis arrested in the north at the secret facility, where prisoners say they were abused. U.S. fears news will stoke instability.

By Ned Parker
April 19, 2010

Hundreds of Sunni men disappeared for months into a secret Baghdad prison under the jurisdiction of Prime Minister Nouri Maliki's military office, where many were routinely tortured until the country's Human Rights Ministry gained access to the facility, Iraqi officials say.

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Revelation of the secret prison could worsen tensions at a highly sensitive moment in Iraq. As U.S. troops are withdrawing, Maliki, a Shiite, and other political officials are negotiating over the formation of a new government. Including minority Sunni Arabs is considered by many to be a key to preventing a return of widespread sectarian violence. Already there has been an increase in attacks by Al Qaeda in Iraq, a Sunni extremist group. The alleged brutal treatment of prisoners at the facility raised concerns that the country could drift back to its authoritarian past.

Commanders initially resisted efforts to inspect the prison, but relented and allowed visits by two teams of inspectors, including Human Rights Minister Wijdan Salim. Inspectors said they found that the 431 prisoners had been subjected to appalling conditions and quoted prisoners as saying that one of them, a former colonel in Saddam Hussein's army, had died in January as a result of torture.

"More than 100 were tortured. There were a lot of marks on their bodies," said an Iraqi official familiar with the inspections. "They beat people, they used electricity. They suffocated them with plastic bags, and different methods."

An internal U.S. Embassy report quoted Salim as saying that prisoners had told her they were handcuffed for three to four hours at a time in stress positions or sodomized. "One prisoner told her that he had been raped on a daily basis, another showed her his undergarments, which were entirely bloodstained," the memo read.

Read more: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/africa/la-fg-iraq-prison19-2010apr19,0,4657710.story
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:25 PM
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1. OMG will this never end? BUSH AND CHENEY BOTH NEED TO BE IMPRISONED.
That entire administration should be paraded out and put on trial.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:25 AM
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17. If the Obama Adminstration does not ACT to fully investigate and prosecute, they are also GUILTY.
They are, in essence, approving of the behavior of BushCo. by continuing on with their corrupt policies.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 11:43 PM
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2. n/t
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:17 AM
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3. and they lied to start that whole thing about freedom and helping Iraqis
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:03 AM
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15. and gave each other awards
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:22 AM
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16. And after the damage was done they kept right on lying
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 08:26 AM by Botany
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:02 AM
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4. K&R
I'll refrain from the obvious...

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:10 AM
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5. I don't believe they could run an operation that big without our knowledge.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:56 AM
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9. I agree.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 11:17 AM
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11. I agree, it seems very unlikely.
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 11:17 AM by Robb
Edited to add: I'm just guessing, however, as I know little about Iraq.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 08:02 AM
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6. Gee, I wonder where they got these ideas?
Secret prisons, torture, stress positions, sexual assualt. Where could they have learned to do these things?
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 02:17 AM
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13. Saddam Hussein and his family and those who put and kept him in power?
I know which answer you're looking for, but I'm guessing Iraqis knew about those things before we showed up to "liberate" them.
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zipplewrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 06:56 AM
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14. Think there was some cross training going on?
Considering we saw some of the same stuff at Gitmo that we saw there, maybe there was information sharing going on.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:10 AM
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7. Yay! the big pile of shit of a war has just gotten bigger!
we fucked ourselves, we fucked the Iraqi people and we fucked the world.

Yay!
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:14 AM
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8. of course, something like this could *Force* the US to stay in Iraq.
And gee, we have that embassy that is larger than Vatican City to stay in! Regardless of where the Iraqis learned how to use secret prisons it's a convenient excuse to stop the pull outs and leave troops to guard out access to Iraqi oil fields....

We never really planned to leave - not until the fields are sucked dry, that is.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 10:57 AM
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10. Fuck. This plus the power vacuum.
Potentially a match to gasoline.

No wonder Odeirno is trumpeting that the withdrawal is on schedule.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:33 PM
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12. kick
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mikeSchmuckabee Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 03:59 PM
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18. Now where do you suppose they got that idea?
Hmmmmmm...the great SATAN!
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