US Afghan allies committed massacre

Dramatic corroboration of the massacre of Afghan prisoners by the US-backed Northern Alliance at the start of the war in 2001 was last night provided by American pathologists commissioned to investigate the claims by the UN. A vivid account of the slaughter was provided to The Observer last week by three Britons who were released from the US detention camp at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba more than two years after they were first seized in Afghanistan. They told how they narrowly escaped the massacre before being handed over to American forces and flown to Guantanamo Bay.

Forensic anthropologist William Haglund, who earlier led inquiries into mass graves in Bosnia, Rwanda, Sri Lanka and Sierra Leone, told The Observer how he dug into an area of recently disturbed desert soil outside the town of Shebargan, and exhumed 15 bodies, a tiny sample, he said, of what may be a very large total.

Thanks to the cold and arid climate, they were well enough preserved to carry out autopsies. Haglund's conclusion 'that they died from suffocation' exactly corroborates the stories told by the Guantanamo detainees in last week's Observer .

'They are the first survivors to describe what we already believed happened to the victims we discovered,' Haglund said yesterday. 'The time has come for a full investigation, under the protection of the international community.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1174554,00.html

I don't think that Jamie Doran's film "Massacre at Mazar" has aired in the States ... (?) -- but this page has some clips (I hope they work!):

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3267.htm

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It's sick, but it should be known. From the posted Article:

Iqbal and Rasul told how they had been marched through the desert towards Shebargan past huge ditches already filled with bodies. Heffernan said: 'After taking into account the thousands crowded into the dilapidated prison, the whereabouts of many taken captive remained unknown. We began to suspect some might have met their fate on the way there. After we left the prison and travelled down the road a few miles into the desert, we smelled the unmistakable odour of decaying flesh and soon found bulldozer tracks and skeletal remains.' Haglund came back under United Nations auspices a few months later.

By chance, on the day he arrived at Shebargan, Dostum had gone into the mountains, he said, leaving behind a military escort which allowed him to open the grave. 'I uncovered one small corner, exposing 15 remains which were quite complete, and did autopsies on three. There were no signs of trauma and these were all young men. This is consistent with death by asphyxiation.

'I told Dostum's security chief that they had died from suffocation, and there was this big silence hanging over the desert.'

The details about elements of the Tipton Three's story assumed a new importance last week, after the Sun published claims by a US Embassy spokesman, Lee McClenny, that the three had trained at an al-Qaeda camp in 2000. They told The Observer last week that they had all confessed to this accusation only after months of solitary confinement and 200 separate interrogation sessions, only to have it finally disproved by MI5, which brought documents showing they had been in Britain at the time
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Mass graves?

Who does this remind me of?

Sick, just plain sick.

They didn't have facilities to keep prisoners so they loaded them into a shipping container-it was like an oven in the 100+ heat, the men began to suffocate and scream and the American commander of the Afghan soldiers told them to "shoot holes in it for ventilation. When the blood started dripping out, they decided to bury them alive.
they were just "ragheads anyway" you know. This is an atrocity which easily equals anything Saddam ever did in cruelty but certainly not the worst. US troops used to put five gallons of water into prisoners in the Phillipines and then "stomp on them" while their organs burst. My British husband remembers seeing footage of the British in India-they used to strap their prisoners onto cannons and then blow them to pieces (to set an example for the hordes, don't ya know) it was necessary collateral damage. Actually, if you add it all up, Britain and America might approach Stalin or Hitler in atrocities and genocide, collaborated or participated in.

Absolutely chilling.

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I have no doubt that that is probably true

The US Military is in over 100 countries, I read on organization that said it was 130 countries,

and I know they ain't kissin' babies . .

I find it sort of weird that a few centuries ago, a few nations populations found Europe and Asia so unlikeable, that they came over to North America for a better life.

They destroyed most of the civilizations that were already here, from the Aztecs up to some of what we call "natives" now.

Along with that they have destroyed alot of the natural resources, the Buffalo down to the extent that they no longer supply food, clothing, tools, etc. as they had for millenniums before the "white" man got here. Also they have polluted almost every body of water including the Great lakes to the point where most of them are not fit for drinking, and alot of them are even dangerous just to wash in. And so on . . .

NOW, after achieving all this, their evil is extending BACK to the continents they came from and ruining THEM.

I fear for the future . . .

(sigh)

,...will reach all those who merely paid taxes and cast a vote. They will be enraged once they get over the shock. Just,...don't doubt the shock of a people who have been under a form of hypnosis. It will be very difficult.

On 3 August, 2002, U.S. President George Bush signed into law the American Servicemembers Protection Act (ASPA) of 2002. Human Rights Watch and others reacted to this very strongly. For example,

* The act was dubbed the "Hague Invasion Act" because, as Human Rights Watch comments, "The new law authorizes the use of military force to liberate any American or citizen of a U.S.-allied country being held by the court, which is located in The Hague."
* In addition to that, Human Rights Watch also adds that "the law provides for the withdrawal of U.S. military assistance from countries ratifying the ICC treaty, and restricts U.S. participation in United Nations peacekeeping unless the United States obtains immunity from prosecution. At the same time, these provisions can be waived by the president on 'national interest' grounds."



http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ICC.asp#USthreatensmilitaryforceifpersonnelheldattheHague

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About the "Unsigning" of the ICC"

"US "unsigns" The Rome Statute in May 2002

At the beginning of May, 2002, the Bush Administration announced that it had resolved to "unsign" the Rome Statute creating the ICC. The U.S. has long been afraid of an international body having jurisdiction over the United States and that cases will be brought against U.S. civilian and military authorities on political grounds."
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And while sort of shocked at the article you directed me to, I am not really surprised.

You probably will not find the following overly surprising, but it MAY explain why Bush won't step foot in Canada.

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Canada's Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Program

2001-2002

The following Canadian statutes authorize enforcement action against alleged war criminals or persons who have committed crimes against humanity:

The Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes Act:

* provides for the prosecution of any individual present in Canada for any offence stated in the Act regardless of where the offence occurred;

* creates new offences of genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes, and breach of responsibility by military commanders and civilian superiors;

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pub/war2002/section02.html
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Now THAT, that bolded part, it's pretty plain eh?

No exceptions for dumb pResidents

He already set foot in Canada and nothing happened with his DUI.
Don't expect much more to happen for the time being. Also don't expect him or any of the others to set foot here for awhile.

Some more items.

http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/columns/html/20040316T190000-0500_57225_OBS_HAITI__A_WAKE_UP_CALL_FOR_US_ALL.asp

I have long lamented the fact that too many African, Caribbean and Pacific (ACP) nationals allow "friends" in the United States, France, Canada and other industrialised nations to encourage us to overthrow our governments, massacre each other, destroy crucial public infrastructure, and bring our countries to a state of total and absolute chaos in order to register our displeasure with our elected officials.

Seems that Canada is not squeaky clean.