MSNBC: Poindexter to resign

No link, here's the full TIVO'd text of announcement in their headline news at 6:30 PM:

"Senior Pentagon officials tell NBC news that retired Admiral John Poindexter is expected to resign his Pentagon post as head of the group that created the controversial Terror Futures program."

Tasteless and immoral. Same for Poindexter.

Hopefully Poindexter will start a trend!

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(AP) – New Mexico Senator Jeff Bingaman wants the head of a Pentagon agency that’s under fire from members of Congress to resign.

The agency is called the Defense Advanced Research Agency. It planned to set up a futures market that would have allowed traders to profit from accurate predictions on terrorism, assassinations and other events in the Middle East.

The agency is headed by Admiral John Poindexter. Bingaman says Poindexter should step down because under his leadership, the agency has developed a trading market in terrorism.

http://kobtv.com/index.cfm?viewer=storyviewer&id=3269&cat=HOME

who went on record asking for p*'s resignation. Please send him a letter to thank him for taking a stand.

in the hearing with Wolfowitz.

probably its a dupe I got hung up in that new law thread... It hasn't been locked as a dupe but it came up on the wire over 13 hours ago so It probably is.

1. A drug dealer. Guns for drugs for TOE missiles. And the drugs being sold to our children.

2. What do our Spanish voters think of this? 'It's one thing to disagree on politics but then for the GOP, North, Poindexter, Reagan, Abrams... to organize the murder of Spanish citizens because they don't like their politics.'

Any Dem. with a spine ready to bring this up and speak the truth. I think Dean should do this now. Just like I've said above.

3. Every criminal from Watergate to IranContragate have gotten a job with Bush. Any Media Whore air time on this?


Dean should say to a Spanish audience. 'Hey, Poindexter, North and Abrams organized armies to kill your relatives. Is that murder? Is this the GOP why for a political solution? Could we have found a political solution in Iraq? Why is the GOP solution The Final Solution like Hitler did to the Jews?'

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YOU WIMP SPINELESS DEMOCRATS STAND UP AND STOP THE GOP MURDERING ON OUR PLANET EARTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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The Iran/Contra treason Poindexter? the real question is why isn't this guy still in jail much less working for the US Government.

This man is quite scary...

and welcome to DU rumguy!

enjoy the company!

Welcome to Du!!

:-) :D :* :+ :hippie: :party: :toast: :eyes: :smoke: :think: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :wow:

Somebody was actually held accountable?!

btw: Welcome Rumguy :toast:

Nothing more satisfying than to see a crook promoted above his level of competence where we can all see him fail.

Gee, you can say that about several Republicans these days.

Hey Dinoboy I'm from Montana originally..lived in Bozeman for a summer...it's a great place

He never ever should have been pardoned.

He had proved his loyalty to "Da' Family".

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He is such slime.

...interesting?

No, more like disturbing.

Thanks for the post and link.

... explanations of how this was supposed to work - but it never seems to have occurred to these bozos that such markets could actually *drive* events. Just buy an option on someone getting offed and then off them.

To sit on the defense policy board, next to Perle?

Kellog Brown & Root?

Such evil application of talent must be nurtured in such dark places as you speak.

he'll go back to Felix the Cat cartoons.

ASSHOLE!!! They all were able to climb out from under their rocks for these people, and Poindexter is among the absolute worst!

Let's remember, as far as these bushies go - BY THY FRIENDS ART THOU KNOWN!!! Let's just stop for a moment and ponder what it means to have our so-called president surrounding himself with all these heinous buggers.

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Welcome to DU, rumguy!

He should never have been given the position to begin with!

how brazen and blatant can these people GET???

:wtf: is JP doing with ANY job in the gov't???


Does this mean that TIPS is closing too?

Before all the celebrating. Did he resign from the head of the terrorist market agency or did he resign in total from the Pentagon? Poindexter has been behind other privacy-invasion ideas.

And there still is nothing at Wash Post, AP, or Reuters. Need to make sure he has NO gov't job when this is over.

And there will be NO oversight. That's my dire warning ;-)

One of these freaks' main salients: PRIVATIZE.

Betcha TIPS, TIA, Poindexter Roulette, etc. could all be off-tracked to private contracters and innocuous sounding grant apps. Lotsa dough around for the right schemes.

Plenty plenty of it already happens in the terra war, in Asia, here, everwhere. Security, combat, intel, you name it. Park rangers next.

It'll just conitnue under the radar like other bookie services. Does anyone think that after they were roasted about the Department of Misinformation, or whatever it was called, it didn't just get turned into the OSP or somesuch? They WILL have their little OTB program, wagering on the deaths and horrors of others. They probably already got enough people's info in the few days they let people sign up to make it "worth their while."

where in the shadows is he going to be? I don't trust this.

This agency's given us a lot of great things--for example, the ideas and technology that made the Internet possible. What a shame it's been politicized like everything else.

or will he be transferred somewhere quietly? (where he can do more harm)

It sounds like a made-up load of crap.

Here's a guy who took the fall for Reagan and Bush I over Iran/Contra.

He's already been convicted of five felonies for lying to Congress (overturned on appeal because he was "immunized" by being NSA).

Now he's lying about creating this creepy weird thing to divert even more attention from Bush's 2.3 soldiers a day killing field in Iraq - itself all based on lies.

I think we've been set up by Poindexter, here.

Dan Brown
Saint Paul, Minnesota

:argh: :grr:

Bush is so unbelievably stupid.


I'm just glad we can color him gone...again.

"How dare you make light of this? ("I think they got a bit too imaginative") "Whoever thought of this should resign. Even NYT dared ask it.

And thank you for pointing this out, Robbedvoter! :hi:

I am a huge fan of Senator Boxer!

I do!

Once, that is, until Daddy Bush pardoned him. Such is the caliber of the leadership in the White House today. You've got to have been convicted of a crime... pardon's are ok.

The question: Have you ever been convicted of a Felony? The answer is always found to be: See Resume.

to the current government and media...

Sort of a "catch you up to date" article or tv setup piece to piranha guests' roundtable.

Mr. and Ms. Amerika probably have no idea, or just fuzzy notions that need sharpening. "Pretty lousy guy, isn't he?"

Into the can with Henry Kissinger, now when is John Negroponte gonna bit the dust?

http://rwor.org/a/v24/1171-1180/1177/homelandside1.htm

excerpt -

In a particularly shocking proof of the Pentagon's intentions: they have put this new Office of Total Information Awareness under the command of retired Admiral John Poindexter. Poindexter is a key player in the 1980s covert war in Central America. As national security adviser to President Reagan, he was the immediate boss of Col. Oliver North -- who undertook a vast secret fundraising campaign to create a private mercenary army of contras to invade Nicaragua without the knowledge or approval of Congress. A key transaction of this operation--the sale of missiles to Iran--became a huge scandal when it was made public. Poindexter agreed to be the fall guy for the real masterminds of these illegal operations (Ronald Reagan, CIA head William Casey, and then-Vice President George H. Bush). In a move that now seems ironic, Poindexter tried to wipe out the Iran-Contragate paper trail by destroying 5,000 White House emails--but forgot about the back-up tapes in the basement.

In a famous statement, Poindexter announced it was his duty to lie about these illegal covert operations to Congress and the public. Members of Poindexter's apparatus openly said that anyone who stood in their way, including elected officials at various levels, should be considered "traitors" and "commies."

In 1989, a government commission in Costa Rica accused Poindexter with involvement in cocaine smuggling to finance arms shipments for rightwing death squads. In 1990, Poindexter was convicted in U.S. federal courts of conspiracy, obstruction of justice, and destruction of evidence. These convictions were overturned because Poindexter had been granted congressional immunity. And he was later pardoned by Bush Senior.

Now this same Admiral John Poindexter will assemble a high-tech system and human apparatus for the info-spying on the 300 million people in the U.S.

Consider this: Imagine the arrogance of putting this organizer of death squads, black ops and bloody conspiracies in charge of a vast domestic spying operation. Imagine the message this deliberately sends to legions of government agents and killers inside and outside the U.S.

more................

My apologies to dogs and fleas, but this regime is just unbelievable! They look like damnfools now. Again.

how can the media possibly avoid mentioning Abrams and North, as also being convicted?

I'm sure I'll see many skip it, but maybe a few will make time/space to fit it in.

The elephant now has diarrhea. The shit is getting deep. How can they (the media) continue to ignore the elephant's presence?

in essence, they all bet on terror when they bought a piece of junior. and it has paid off mightily for some, has it not?

Oh, so does SHRUB-------------never mind.

and the *moron has already booked his month off for August weed whacking...somebody gonna lose some investment$ for sure.

dp

From the Iran/Contra Report:

On March 16, 1988, Poindexter was indicted on seven felony charges arising from his involvement in the Iran/contra affair, as part of a 23-count multi-defendant indictment. He was named with North, retired Air Force Maj. Gen. Richard V. Secord and Albert Hakim as a member of the conspiracy to defraud the United States Government by effecting the Iran/contra diversion and other acts.

After the cases were severed and two of the original charges dismissed, Poindexter was tried and convicted in April 1990 of five felonies, including: one count of conspiring to obstruct official inquiries and proceedings, two counts of obstructing Congress, and two counts of false statements to Congress.1 U.S. District Judge Harold H. Greene sentenced him to a six-month prison term. In November 1991, Poindexter's convictions were overturned on appeal. In December 1992, the U.S. Supreme Court declined to review the case.

from the administration?? They played this little game with Wolfowitz too. Resigned as head of the defense advisory board but remained on the board. If Bush were a real President, he would have fired him (well, he would have never hired a convicted criminal)

Pentagon's Defense Advisory board, but is still on the board?

But then again does anyone ever REALLY resign or get fired from the BFEE ? They all certainly know where at least a few bodies are buried, so it's not like the BushCos can ever really cut these guys out of the picture completely. They would all blackmail each other at the drop of a hat...their intra-BFEE loyalties certainly have to have rewards somewhere in the matrix.

:kick:

When Hillary Clinton becomes president how many of you think she will hire anyone into the government that was convicted of a crime during Bill's administration ? Will she hire anyone into government that Bill pardoned ? Would the *liberal media* sweep all those connections under the rug like they have for Junior vis'a'vis Poppy? No, you know the *liberal media* would focus on that like a laser beam and view it over and over through one of Rummy's prisms.

If the media is so liberal why don't they go get Bushco on all these convicted criminals and pardonees from Bush I 'serving' in Bush II ?
hmmmm...

dealings of people in high places. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Perle, to name just three, have some interesting connections about which little or nothing is said. And then there's the Bush* family with ties to Carlyle Group, Barrick Gold (gold in Liberia, you know), and pretty much anybody in the oil business. Neil (of the S&L scandal) is now running an educational software company which no doubt will get a lot of business due to his connections. We need some transparency and some truth.

....the media are now being paid to 'entertain' us...the new corporate statute states there was an abolishment of investigative journalism into gov't affairs*......didn't you get the memo? :evilfrown:

*unless it involves Bill Clinton and his Penis.

No future for Poindexter?

Irony of ironies -- traders can now speculate on John Poindexter's chances of keeping his job.
July 30, 2003: 1:47 PM EDT
By Justin Lahart, CNN/Money Senior Writer



NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The uproar over the Defense Department's plan to launch a futures exchange, where traders would speculate on the potential for such tragic events as terrorist attacks or assassination, has reached a fever pitch.

Heads should roll, critics cry, beginning with the head of John Poindexter, the former Reagan administration official who runs the Pentagon office that cooked up the scheme. "The time has obviously come," wrote The New York Times editorial board Wednesday morning, "to send John Poindexter packing and to shut down the wacky espionage operation he runs at the Pentagon."

What are the chances that Poindexter is still around at the end of next month? About 70 percent according to the Poindexter contract that began being traded on Dublin-based futures exchange Tradesports. Yep, Poindexter is about to serve as an example of how accurately a futures market can predict future events -- the very idea that he was espousing.

"There must have been 15 requests for the contract in my inbox this morning," said Tradesports CEO John Delaney. "It seemed like a good idea to list it."


more....

http://money.cnn.com/2003/07/30/markets/poindextercontract/

Do a google news search on poindexter. About 2 pages posted in the last 12 hours. Just when they thought they'd put the controversies behind them......

right after the WH warns of more hijackings. If Poindexter is getting the boot, Ashcroft should be shown the exit door as well.

http://www.iht.com/articles/104637.html

The latest idea hatched by John Poindexter's wacky espionage operation at the Pentagon - an online futures trading market where speculators could bet on the probabilities of terrorist attacks, assassinations and coups - would be terrifying if it wasn't so patently absurd. The idea was quickly canned by embarrassed Pentagon officials. The obvious next step is to close down Poindexter's spy shop, and to send him packing.

That man's so evil he scares all of the other evil ones.

Did Poindexter have something to do with the stock market trades made in airline futures just before the World Trade Center disaster?

Do the 29 missing pages of the 9-11 report implicate Poindexter or his friends, like Poppy, in these stock market trades?

It is very odd that we have never heard anything about those suspicious trades. Doesn't the SEC keep any records?

Why hasn't the riddle of who predicted that "planes would be flying into buildings" the week before 9-11, been looked into?

Why the media blackout on these stock market trades? Is there something being hidden?

If Poindexter was involved in those 9-11 airline futures trades, it would show that Bush and Bush's friends knew 9-11 was about to happen, and were betting on it.

:mad:

IIRC, all that blood money is still sitting somewhere unclaimed.

Here is a thought. Imagine if this terroist stock market were to have an IPO on Chenney or Bush. What do you think that would do to the terror alert. What about Babs and Jenna and pickels and Laura. IF GHW Bush were to suddenly show up as a commodity what do you think dumb ass would do then? Good plan, lets play the stock market with it.

he also needs medical attention?

at some Puke Tank:puke: or:crazy: :silly: Board of Destructors somewhere in the NeoCon:wow: bowels of our Land. Dying will be too good for that traitor.

FUCKER in jail?

Cheers
Drifter

belongs.

Seems that they never move their right hand man too far from business as usual.

You phucking phuckhead!! What an evil, evil man..