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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:20 AM Original message |
Neil Armstrong says Barack Obama is 'poorly advised' on space |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. Can't he shut up? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I'm pleased that Armstrong is saying this. |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. Landing men on the moon supercharged this nation's economy, knowledge |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #3 |
93. so did Armstrong vote on UCUT? |
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humblebum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #93 |
98. A new focused space program would provide countless new jobs. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Was that decision made with the promised public involvement? When would you allow speech? |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I hope that was sarcasm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Neil may be a national treasure and Hero, but so his our President |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:45 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. They are both experts in their own fields - |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Obama is NOT a hero! |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. maybe not to you, but he IS a hero to millions |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. and Obama's military record is... |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
74. Yes he wasn't in the military |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:00 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. One speech, and a lot of war orders after he became Prez |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. That's what his opponents said to try and minimize him. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
87. Tell that to the families of the fallen! |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. ok i get it |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:08 AM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Obama Likes You And Is Looking Out For You |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Anybody protected by dozens of armed Secret Sercice special |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #62 |
73. point is. carrying a gun DOESN't make you a hero |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. That doesn't make him a hero either. And the tone of the thread |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #82 |
89. "carrying a gun" - its a metaphor. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:47 AM Response to Reply #26 |
85. Shut the Fuck Up |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. No go. Armstrong's earned the right to an opinion. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. The fascist nature of that statement STFU, the President has decided |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
60. Perhaps it would be more accurate to say Il Duce has decided |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
46. And, given that Armstrong has not spent the last 40 years seeking attention. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. His timing sucks. Where has he been for the last 40 years? |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #49 |
61. Heck, where was he eight years ago.... |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
63. The 1st amendment doesn't have any "Earn it" provisions. n/t |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 06:26 AM Response to Reply #63 |
83. True, but expressing an opinion calls for a higher standard than merely speaking . . . |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Higher standard? Protecting one's opinion is precisely what it's |
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MrModerate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. We seem to be talking past each other. Suffice it to say, I agree with your most recent post. n/t |
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24601 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 06:10 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Fair enought - we're in violent agreemnt! n/t |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
21. Um.. on space matters I take his advice over those advising Obama |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:48 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. +1 nt |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
72. +2 |
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razorman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Will you feel the same way about whoever complains if President Obama's successor |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
25. Mmmm, it's not that kind of country. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. With regard to this nation's science policy (including space exploration), the opinions of |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
67. Astronauts are not policy experts. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:56 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. Who said they were? But, then again, when it comes to space policy, |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Ever talked to a test pilot? |
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christx30 (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #1 |
35. You're right |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #1 |
41. I had to laugh when I read this. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. I'll bet you found this sort of statement evil a few years ago. (nt) |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Armstrong's an expert on space; whereas Obama's expertise lies in corrupt Chicago |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Armstrong's an expert on space? |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. I understand your point |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Our Audacious Leader has spoken, as he did on offshore drilling back in March! |
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neverforget (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. I bet Buzz Aldrin doesn't have to shut up since he supports Obama, right? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
80. You could have gone a long way in the court of Louis XIV. n/t |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. Here's another good quote from the Senate hearing that invited Armstrong's testimony.. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Augustine: "This program appears to be a viable undertaking, one that ranked highly in our overall.. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:41 AM Original message |
Thanks for that, I've been saying it's Option 5B for quite some time. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. BTW, prepared statements are on the commerce hearing site, too. |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. Armstrong is a private citizen, he's under no obligation to shut up |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
8. Then Armstrong needs to cough up the cash to fund all of this. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:15 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I got a few ideas of where we can shift a few dollars for exploration |
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SemperEadem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
20. exactly |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. A "better return on investment" is Milton Friedman-speak. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:00 PM Response to Reply #31 |
45. You've delineated the return you want to see on your investment. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
51. The Mars Rovers |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
70. The mars rover program massively exceeded expectations. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
55. End Obama's wars, and there will be plenty of money |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Obama's wars? Seems I saw that on some teabagger signs... |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Philippines, Pakistan... How many so far? |
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Moochy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #65 |
92. When do they stop being Bush's Wars? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:53 AM Response to Original message |
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KellyW (539 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
10. He’s right |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. Armstrong has been too out off the loop to know how NASA was being handled by Griffen. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
18. the space program decided to make a big rv.... |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. Speaking of space. Obama is also poorly advised on drug issues. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
22. Hey old fart - STFU! Whose money do you want to use? |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
24. Neil needs to mind his own business |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. The point of the space program is not to go anywhere in particular, or |
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ozone_man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:09 AM Response to Reply #28 |
37. +1 |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
29. For all these "Shut the fuck upers". You debate with the skill of a five year |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
64. +100 nt |
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lovely (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:01 AM Response to Reply #29 |
78. I agree |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #29 |
90. true enough, but this is a not a high school contest. |
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Hatchling (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
30. Obama is poorly advised on a lot of things. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. And, I'm just sayin' he's done an amazing |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
32. Maybe it's the same people he's listening to on Afghanistan? /nt |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
33. The Cold War is over. This gravy train for the weapons industry has to come to a stop |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. NASA budget this year: $18 billion. Total all spending by NASA since |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Non sequitur ... eom |
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mbperrin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. ? |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
42. The Fonz has jumped the shark. No, seriously. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
43. Space Ain't The Only Area Obama Gets Bad Advice |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #43 |
81. Really |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
53. Armstrong = Leno, Aldrin = Conan. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
58. Mr. Armstrong has earned the right to give his opinion and I'm glad he's speaking up - |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
71. Everyone has a right to voice an opinion, but some opinions are worth more than others. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Except when weightless, nevertheless Armstrong is a monumental hero |
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hatrack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
84. This from the guy who said "Feynman is being a real pain in the ass" during the Challenger hearings |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
97. Time for a new paradigm, Neil... |
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renegade000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
99. And Buzz Aldrin supports the president's direction: |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
100. Were bankrupt, something has to give |
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