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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:24 AM
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China mulling immigration law to control foreign arrivals
Source: Economic Times of India

22 May 2010, 1517 hrs IST,AGENCIES

BEIJING: China is considering its first immigration law following a surge in the number of foreigners seeking to take advantage of the booming economy in the world's most populous nation, state press said on Saturday.

Preparations are underway for a first draft of the law which would likely divide potential immigrants into categories such as skilled or unskilled workers and job and investor immigration, Xinhua news agency said.

"Judging from the history of Western developed countries, inward migration flows often reveal the appeal of a nation," the report quoted Zhang Jijiao, of the Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology at the China Academy of Social Sciences, as saying.

"But to have a stronger appeal and competitiveness in the global arena, a nation must properly resolve social and economic issues arising from immigration."

No timetable for the law was given.



Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international-business/China-mulling-immigration-law-to-control-foreign-arrivals/articleshow/5962439.cms
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 11:57 AM
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1. So I'm getting very confused...
So now China? And then there were recent England complaints? And Europe? And America?

Where do ALL these people who are leaving their own countries, come from?
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unabelladonna Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 01:59 PM
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2. racists
how dare they attempt to control their borders.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 02:16 PM
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3. They are doing it at the federal level
Palin wants states to take over that federal duty
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:21 PM
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4. It is a communist dictatorship.
Everything is done at the federal level. Is that what you want? If the federal government is incapable of securing the borders then the states should step up. You can try and create a straw man by throwing Palin's name in there as if it is her idea but the fact is that the overwhelming majority of U.S. residents want the border secured.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 03:43 PM
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5. So most people agree with Palin that states should usurp federal law
I don't see the Chinese doing anything wrong by creating an immigration law that would classified the types of immigrants that enter their country
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:06 PM
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6. I have a feeling you wouldn't see anything the Chinese did was wrong.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:36 PM
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7. I guess because they are communist everything they do is evil
including all the walmart and electronic merchandise
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 09:33 PM
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9. Yeah employing slave labor to destroy our jobs and economy
fits in my definition of evil. Maybe not yours.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:05 PM
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15. are you familiar with the concept of master and slave nations?
it will be easy to blame the chinese for our social and economic failures, its been done before with other races, ethnic groups and countries.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 01:42 PM
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16. I don't blame the Chinese.
They are just doing what exploiters do. Exploit when given the opportunity. I blame are corporate classes which control the political parties in this country and have given the Chinese the opportunity.
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:34 AM
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12. If the feds won't do it
should we get on our knees and beg them to do it?
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:56 PM
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14. is that the only choice you have? n/t
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christx30 Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 03:55 PM
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18. I'm just saying that
if the feds won't secure the border, then the state has to do it. But that could go for just about any problem.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 02:32 PM
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17. By what metric are the feds not doing it?
The whole "Secure the border" mantra is a republican campaign slogan. If you look at the facts on the ground in terms of: the number of Border Patrol agents (way up), the number of illegal crossings (down 50%), crime on the border and in the state of Arizona (down and declining), and deportations (way up from the Bush era), the "feds won't do anything" folks don't have much to go on.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 07:30 PM
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8. maybe china can adopt Mexico's immigration laws ...
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 06:45 AM
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10. "China, with borders on so many countries, would see increasingly active population mobility."
http://english.cri.cn/6909/2010/05/22/1461s571418.htm

Huang Xing, deputy director of the CASS Institute of Ethnology and Anthropology, told the international conference on "Migration in China and Asia: Experience and Policy" on Thursday that China, with borders on so many countries, would see increasingly active population mobility.

In the era of globalization, China needed to attract a variety of talents, investors, skilled workers, and in particular "seagulls" -- a Chinese term for foreign merchants who work with multinationals and must travel across the world-- to contribute to its development. A sounder migration policy would definitely enhance China's appeal, Zhang said.

At the two-day International Metropolis Conference, first of its kind in China and Asia, more than 90 experts from 24 countries and regions have gathered to discuss global migration and policies concerning multi-ethnic societies, identity and social cohesion, skilled and unskilled workers, labor markets and ethnic business, marriage and gender, education and youth migrants.

The Shanghai government announced in last December that foreigners living in this eastern metropolis for more than six months had risen 14.1 percent year on year to 152,100 in 2008. In Beijing, the number was 110,000 by 2008 while in southern Guangdong, the spearhead of China's economic reform, the figure was 57,793 in the first half of last year. Guangzhou even has an emerging African community.

Professor David W. Haines, of the George Mason University, described China as a "crucial" contributor to a global understanding of migration,not only because of concurrent migration flows into and out of China, but also because of the unique internal migration, which restricted by the household registration system. As Chinese policy-makers had pegged household registration to residents' social benefits, medical care and education services, internal migration in China has been viewed as more complex and difficult than that in Western countries.

Haines pointed out similarities between China's internal migration and the transnational migration in North America and Europe, and panel discussion moderator Zhang Jijiao hoped Chinese researchers could look into the similarities and identify useful experiences to optimize policies for the internal migration dominated by rural migrant workers.

"Global migration management philosophy, as I understand, has shifted from assimilation in the 1960s to the respect of differences and the protection of diversity. China, a latecomer in this sphere, has both a lot to be done and a good chance to catch up," said Zhang.
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Since China uses "household registration" to restrict and control internal migration, the government will have to be at least as strict with foreign immigrants or do away with internal migration controls altogether (which would seem to go against their penchant for control).
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 09:06 AM
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11. So they had no controls before?
It sounds like they are just getting started.

They don't even begin to have the diversity we have and it looks like they never will. That will keep them second rate forever.
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-23-10 12:12 PM
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13. What a weirdly chauvinist remark.
Try telling it to your new Chinese overlords in a few years.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 02:54 PM
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19. "They don't even begin to have the diversity we have"
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 03:33 PM
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20. Ethnic diversity in China
That country is enormously diverse. The only significant difference is that the majority population is not Caucasian (but there are minority Caucasian populations from Russia). Until now immigration has been managed by regional governments. China is actually less centralised than the US in most respects. It's somewhat similar to the US before the constitutional convention.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-27-10 03:33 PM
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21. Ethnic diversity in China
That country is enormously diverse. The only significant difference is that the majority population is not Caucasian (but there are minority Caucasian populations from Russia). Until now immigration has been managed by regional governments. China is actually less centralised than the US in most respects. It's somewhat similar to the US before the constitutional convention.
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