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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:35 AM
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Effort to contain Gulf oil stalls with stuck saw
Source: Associated Press

PORT FOURCHON, La. – The risky effort to contain the Gulf oil gusher hit a snag Wednesday when a saw became stuck in a thick pipe on a blown-out well in the Gulf of Mexico.

Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen said the goal was to free the saw and finish the cut later in the day. This is the latest attempt to contain — not plug — the nation's worst oil spill. The best chance at stopping the leak is still at least two months away.

With the new effort, however, BP PLC hoped to siphon to the surface the majority of the oil spewing into the Gulf.

"I don't think the issue is whether or not we can make the second cut. It's about how fine we can make it, how smooth we can make it," Allen said.


Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_gulf_oil_spill
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:14 AM
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1. I watched it as it got stuck last night.
And this is where it would have been good to have someone with experience cutting trees....they started the cut at an angle to the bend in the pipe and so the weight of the pipe caused the bind.
they should have started the cut opposite of the bend so the weight of the pipe would tend to open up the cut instead of close.
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:19 AM
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2. Even a good pipefitter knows the same concept.
I have to wonder how much pipe-fitting experience the ROV operators have. I would think they'd be required to have some, but they may not have such a background.
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:40 AM
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7. How incompetent can they be??? nt
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:19 AM
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3. I don't know what dimwits are designing these "attempts" -
out here in the real oilpatch, we use a torch to cut pipe in the field.

And yes, I worked out there for ten years and cut many a casing stub myself, so this is not a rumor.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:23 AM
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4. Torch might not work at the extreme depth. nt
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kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:27 AM
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5. However, I've also worked in oil refineries
and when there's product in a line with no way of purging it, you used air-powered saws, so as to not develop a spark. Granted, underwater, you won't have oxygen, but if you're talking about an oxy-acetylene torch, you would be providing an ignition source. Better would be to use a plasma cutter :)
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:32 AM
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6. Saw Gets Stuck In Riser, Analysts Say Leak May Last Till CHRISTMAS
A new estimate from energy investor Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. in Houston says the oil leak could last until Christmas:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-06-02/bp-oil-leak-may-last-until-christmas-in-worst-case-scenario.html

BP’s attempts so far to cap the well and plug the leak on the seabed a mile below the surface haven’t worked, while the start of the Atlantic hurricane season this week indicates storms in the Gulf may disrupt other efforts.

“The worst-case scenario is Christmas time,” Dan Pickering, the head of research at energy investor Tudor Pickering Holt & Co. in Houston, said. “This process is teaching us to be skeptical of deadlines.”

Ending the year with a still-gushing well would mean about 4 million barrels of oil spilled into the Gulf, based on the government’s current estimate of 12,000 to 19,000 barrels leaking a day. That would wipe out marine life deep at sea near the leak and elsewhere in the Gulf, and along hundreds of miles of coastline, said Harry Roberts, a professor of Coastal Studies at Louisiana State University.

The so-called relief well being drilled to intercept and plug the damaged well by mid-August might miss -- as other emergency wells have done before -- requiring more time to make a second, third or fourth try, Dave Rensink, President Elect of the American Association of Petroleum Geologists, said.


. . .


The ultimate worst-case scenario is that the well is never successfully plugged, said Fred Aminzadeh, a research professor at the University of Southern California’s Center for Integrated Smart Oil Fields who previously worked for Unocal Corp. That would leave the well to flow for probably more than a decade, he said in a telephone interview.
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