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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:14 PM
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Oil washes onto Mississippi coast for first time
Source: Reuters

OCEAN SPRINGS, Miss., June 27 (Reuters) - Large patches of thick oil from the BP Plc <BP.L> <BP.N> Gulf of Mexico spill washed ashore for the first time in Mississippi on Sunday and residents were outraged that authorities did not clean it up.

Hundreds watched as gluey gobs of brown oil and rainbow oil sheen sloshed onto tourist beaches at Ocean Springs, about 10 miles (16 kilometres) east of Biloxi, and at a beach used by fisherman that is close to an inland marsh.

"This might be the last time we are able to come to the beach. What makes us so mad about all of this is that it could have been avoided. All of it," said James Vogeney, 56, who grew up in Ocean Springs.

"Life as I know it is over. What are we going to do if nobody cares to act fast enough," said Mike Hollings, a local resident who cried as he stared at the oil on the beach.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20100628/us_nm/us_oil_spill_mississippi
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:20 PM
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1. Um guys, your governor, Foghorn Leghorn, said "no prob"
He must be right. They show his porky jowly face on CNN all the time, and said he was a wonderful politician so how can there be anything wrong.

I think these guys are just makin shit up.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:16 PM
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8. Governor Foghorn Leghorn
"Son, Ah say, son... Look at me when I'm talking to you, boy (kids these days have no respect for their elders)... There ain't no oil on Mississippi shores, son, it's all in yore head (kids these days have such wild imaginations)."
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:33 PM
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16. Foghorn Leghorn -- God, I'm screaming! nt
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:52 AM
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27. Foghorn Leghorn, too perfect! lol !! nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 04:57 PM
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34. ROTFLMAO!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 09:05 AM
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37. God that's funny!!!
:rofl:
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:27 PM
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2. Yes, it may have been avoided...but...
Mike and James....did you vote for the RePukes that touted de-reg?
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:34 PM
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3. It upsets me to see them talking about "fast enough" - don't they
understand that there may not be fast answers and that is the whole problem. These people drilled an experimental well and had no plans for this. They do not know what to do except what they are doing and those relief wells have a chance of failure also. What we never should have done was drill any well like that in the first place. This is the only world we have - we should be taking care of it not gambling with its health.
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SILVER__FOX52 Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:35 PM
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4. Hang this one on the Republicans folks....
tell'em thanks for their Alice in Wonderland bullshit. Oh and make sure you vote that oil retard Governor back in.
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azureblue Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:35 PM
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5. I am not going to tar (sorry for the wordplay)
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 09:39 PM by azureblue
and feather my fellow Mississippians - I was born there- but, you voted for Bush - twice, and Bush is the guy who weakened the rules and the inspections, that allowed this spill to happen. This is it- right there on your beach, right there on your fish, crabs, crawfish, oysters, birds and wildlife, the consequences of YOUR VOTE. You own this, so, if you voted for Bush, this is your responsibility, and is on your shoulders. You caused this sure as if you cut the pipe your self. I can only imagine how this country would have been if Gore would had been elected, but I can say one thing for certain- there would not have been deep water drilling, if any, under such lax supervision, and this fiasco would never have happened.

I am sorry this is happening to a part of my former state that I found very beautiful- the coastline, the sand, and shallow waters of the bay. It will never be the same. And, if you don't raise Hell with Haley right now, Make him get his fat ass back to the state and to work for MS, not for his fundraising, and make him clean this up right now, the oil spill will be with the the state for a very, very long time.

Bless your heart.



maybe not...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:42 PM
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6. Why wasn't the oil stopped before it got to the beach??
Where are the booms?? Does bp not know where the oil is??
These are the questions to ask.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:49 PM
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13. 'Cause GovJindal is too busy telling Miss to pray the oil away instead of calling up the 6k NatGuard
...that he was authorized to do some time ago by President Obama. It's too hard to mobilize 6000 soldiers, so better to just have millions of civilians pray.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:14 PM
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14. You are correct about jindal
barbour is the governor of Mississippi

He was the one telling everyone to come on down the beaches are fine
it is nothing more than toothpaste
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:37 PM
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17. Barbour, like Jindal, has not called on the full complement of Guards that
have been authorized and (I think) are just waiting for the word from the Governors. Jindal would rather play politics and I think Barbour acted like if nothing was wrong, that would magically make it so.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:51 PM
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19. They live in their own little world
their world has no reality in it .....
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:36 AM
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24. And Haley refused to meet with Obama on three occasions. Wonder if he'll start crying for
gov't funds. Just thinking if it will horrify him to ask a
black President for aid.  It will be interesting to watch
Haley.  Just last week on THE ED SHOW, Susan Molinari said
that she thought 
Haley was brilliant and a great guy.  Repigs have no class or
intelligence.  Keep talking
Sue.
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revolution breeze Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 09:13 AM
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22. Actually Louisiana National Guard has been mobilized.
We have about 1,000 troops here in St. Tammany and Orleans Parishes working in the Rigolets. I have been down with one of the catering companies delivering food and have seen them at work (yes, these men are not eatiing MREs, they are being well taken care of).
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 09:44 PM
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7. but...your governor says it's nothing more than brown toothpaste
think before you vote next time, Mississipi

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/06/03/barbour-oil-toothpaste/
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:18 PM
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9. Agree ..."could have been avoided" ... 26 year Moritorium on offshore drilling gone . . .
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:38 PM
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10. Maybe folks in Mississippi and Louisianna need to get off their asses and protest at their State
Capitals? Their governors have not been acting in good faith to prevent or clean up this catastrophe. Their state legislatures have done nothing fast to help. Their state governments are run by greedy, in-the-pocket of oil barons Grand Oil Party politicians. They need to do something about it if they want their beaches back.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:42 PM
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11. Haley - shove it hard and fast, shit-for-brains - with no lubricant! SHIT-HEAD!
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:43 PM
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12. Hell Boy Barbour should be water boarded with tar balls.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:33 PM
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15. "life as we know it as not over" and they are working on clean-up
i don't get some of this news reporting, i was in biloxi today, and the oil hitting deer island, pascagoula etc. it's being cleaned up...i mean, no, captain kirk was not there with the teleporter to instantly teleport it out of range but the problem is being addressed and people are getting good $ to address it...?
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:39 PM
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18. God, I'm just salivating waiting for Barbour to start screaming that this is the
goverment's fault! Bring it on, Gov, we've got tape.

And the Mississippi residents need to be aware that he had access to the Guard, he chose not to call them in!
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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:25 AM
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23. NG
If I may point out, there are in fact activated National Guard troops along the Mississippi Coast and from what I have seen, they are now being tasked with cleanup. Just my .02.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 01:58 PM
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30. Here's a little more precise info for you:
States were granted use of the NG at the outset of the disaster.

As of June 24 LA, although authorized for 6,000 troops, has only deployed 1,053.

Mississippi, although authorized for 6,000 troops, has only deployed 58!

Yet Jindal has been yelling that the government isn't doing its job to help. I think if he used the remaining 4,947 troops he had access to from the beginning, he'd see a little more progress. Who's responsible here, the Government or Jindal?

Yesterday the news reported that oil has now washed up onto the Mississippi beaches. If there had been more than 58 people utilized by Barbour, let's say, oh, another 5,942 people, perhaps they could have prevented the oil from coming ashore. Why weren't they there?

But CBS News has learned that in addition to Louisiana's 1,053 troops of 6,000, Alabama has deployed 432 troops of 3,000 available. Even fewer have been deployed in Florida - 97 troops out of 2,500 - and Mississippi - 58 troops out of 6,000.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/24/eveningnews/main6615414.shtml

When asked about the CBS report, Jindal said there was too much red tape. Thad Allen said the authorization was done in one day. So then Jindal admitted

However, the governor's office told CBS News that he has not specifically asked for more National Guard troops.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-20008914-10391695.html?tag=contentMain;contentBody

Hmmmm. If Jindal said there was too much red tape, but in actuality hadn't even requested more troops... again, who's responsible? Jindal or the Government?

What is your response to this?



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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 03:16 PM
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31. My response?
Edited on Mon Jun-28-10 03:35 PM by nalnn
I wasn't posing a query, simply stating that they are there, working. I know this because I'm there. Literally.

The National Guard are not the only ones qualified to clean up an oil spill, nor are they the best equipped. There are hundreds of people around here and off shore working to deploy boom as well as cleaning the beaches where it gets through. The oil gets through. It does that. Not nearly all that could though. I don't think personnel shortages are the problem. The problem is higher up. It's the planners who, for whatever reason aren't allocating the materials needed properly.

I'm afraid I have to remain an optimist about this disaster. I simply wish the gusher wasn't still gushing.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 03:56 PM
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32. But don't you think if they got the people out there that are available
to help the effort would be more successful? Even if the Guard were just out in boats checking on the boom that's been placed, stuff like that. Giving other folks a break. Hell, bringing water to the workers! Surely there is something they could do?

Who are the planners? That's so often where things fall through the cracks, those who are looking at it on paper rather than actually experiencing what it is they're charged with "fixing".

And I apologize for my snarky reply. I knee-jerk reacted thinking you were essentially saying that Jindal and Barbour were right in their assessments (which I still don't believe, but you're there so you know far better than I.) From my (granted, far away) vantage point, I'm angry at them for not taking advantage of every single thing that is available to them.

What would you do if you were "in charge" that isn't being done now? And, do you see an improvement as the time goes on?



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nalnn Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 08:53 AM
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36. In MS
I am not sure more people at the Mississippi Coast would be a better solution. The Mississippi Coast line is minuscule compared to LA and FL. Barely 50 miles from end to end. I think the proper branches of service for this type of problem is the CG and Navy. The CG is already doing what they can, the Navy...I don't know. I know we have CBs in Biloxi and I am sure they can do this sort of thing, I just don't know if they are being deployed. My perspective is that of the 'ground pounders.'

What would I do? Alot more ships in the gulf, Navy mainly and any foreign vessels that could assist. The well needs to be stopped 1st and foremost. It seems, at least from the media that this point has begun to slide out of focus. But it's still gushing! There are bound to be DSRVs or the like or some other technologies that could be employed to stop the well, I just don't see everything that could be being thrown at this problem.

As to the cleanup, it seems kind of like Katrina, just in slow motion. The right personnel are showing up in the right places, but too ,late in too many cases. During Katrina, the response in MS was almost instantaneous on the state level. The Fed sort of melded into what the state was already doing once they were able to respond a few days later.

Then there's this: <http://www.sunherald.com/2010/06/28/2295094/beaches-reopen-advisories-issued.html> . I don't know what to make of this, but this isn't the first time a story like this has come out. About it not being oil. What else could it possibly be?!

As for Barbour's remarks regarding the early stages of the oil coming ashore in LA? I was appalled by his statements and behavior. I would not have understated the calamity, but I also would not want to cause a panic... I'd never make a good politician.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 12:11 AM
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20. NOOOOO!!!!! n/t
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pansyofanotaku Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 12:31 AM
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21. Umm...
I don't really know whether to side with the Mississippians and blame the gov. or just say it's there fault for voting for Bush. Either way I'm sad for all the damage this must have done to the poor little animals... Waah!!!
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felinetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:37 AM
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25. Our country continues to reap the benefits of Repig rule. Reagan started it and Bush stole the
election. Isn't grand living with the results of their
selfish, pea brain ideas?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 10:45 AM
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26. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, cory.
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eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 12:59 PM
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28. beautiful Ocean Springs...
...always reminded me of the town in To Kill a Mockingbird. :cry:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 01:25 PM
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29. but...but..but...Ol' Haley sez thar ain't more thenna meelkjug fulla earl offa Missssssppi
dumbass
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time_has_come Donating Member (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 04:11 PM
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33. Haley Barbour got something to say now? n/t
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GlennWRECK Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-28-10 05:07 PM
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35. Should not have come to this.. what the fuck...
Hell yes it should have been avoided! NO excuses!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 10:38 AM
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38. Mississippi gets back $2.02 in federal spending for every dollar paid in taxes...
Edited on Tue Jun-29-10 10:39 AM by KansDem
Federal spending in each state per dollar of federal taxes--2005

No. 2 after New Mexico.

What's Gov. Barbour doing with all that big-government money?
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-29-10 10:43 AM
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39. Well...
"It's no more dangerous that toothpaste I tell you! Everybody grab a toothbrush and head to the beach!"

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