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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:29 AM
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Corbett says some rather get unemployment checks than work
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 10:29 AM by Joanne98
Source: Philadelphia Enquirer

HARRISBURG - Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett on Friday accused some jobless Pennsylvanians of choosing to collect unemployment checks rather than going back to work, prompting swift criticism from his Democratic opponent and one of the state's top labor leaders.

"The jobs are there. But if we keep extending unemployment, people are just going to sit there," Corbett told Harrisburg radio station WITF at a campaign stop in Elizabethtown. "I've literally had construction companies tell me, 'I can't get people to come back to work until . . . they say, "I'll come back to work when unemployment runs out." ' "

Democratic candidate Dan Onorato charged Corbett with being out of touch at a time when Pennsylvania's unemployment rate is at 9.1 percent, a 26-year high.

"I don't know what world Tom Corbett is living in," Onorato said in a statement. "Our economy is struggling, families in Pennsylvania are hurting, and Harrisburg insiders like Tom Corbett aren't doing anything to help them."




Read more: http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20100710_Corbett_says_some_would_rather_get_unemployment_checks_than_work.html
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:36 AM
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1. WHAT an IDIOT! I don't know Pennsylvania, but in Texas, unemployment
pays between $59 and $406 a week, depending on what you were making before you became unemployed. And to draw the $406. you had to be earning about $3600 per week before that.

Yes, cushy, much better than working, eh?
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:50 AM
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46. It is for some people...
I don't know what the max unemployment is in Texas but hopefully If I was laid off I would find a job that would pay at least a little more than unemployment. I would have to actually...

Check out this thread...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4216186

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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:45 AM
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2. lots of jobs available at lots of mystery companies!
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 10:46 AM by Enrique
all these companies begging for workers, and these guys won't share the names of ANY of the companies.

Corbett's spokesman, Kevin Harley, said later the owner of a plumbing company, whose name he did not know, told Corbett he had workers who did not want to return until their unemployment ran out. He said other employers had told Corbett they have jobs available and cannot find people to fill them.



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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 01:22 AM
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43. Always a nameless company
so desperate to hire the unemployed they have to contact their Congressperson or Senator. I don't understand why people continue to make the claim that, “There are jobs out there” when the numbers tell a drastically different story. I do not see employers running massive ad campaigns begging for workers or media coverage touting how hundreds and thousands of companies have large numbers of jobs available with few applicants…which would be something FOX would be broadcasting ten times a day. Yet, people continue to insist there is work available in such large quantity that there is no reason for someone to remain jobless.
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FBI_Un_Sub Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:47 AM
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3. Steel - 1980's
When steel died in the 1980's, those steel workers in the Mon Valley hustled to make a buck. Corbett is an idiot in the Santorium-Toomey league.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 07:48 AM
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45. Yes and there were no compatible jobs
I remember all too well 1983-85 when the steel industry died in Ambridge. Thousands of workers let go, the plants died and there were no jobs to replace them. Ambridge never recovered. It's a ghost town like all the others. And NOBODY stood up for those displaced workers.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:53 AM
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4. Would you get off unemployment to take a farm job paying minimum wage?
I think some decisions to stay on unemployment make sense. But that is me. I'm probably in the minority.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:56 AM
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7. Why are you referring to farm jobs?
And you are in the minority when you refer to farm jobs.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:14 AM
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9. I was referring to this post and how they said they couldn't fill the vacated positions.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4459394&mesg_id=4459394

The only plentiful and available jobs are the ones that will be vacated by illegal immigrants.

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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:53 AM
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5. Speaking for himself. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 10:55 AM
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6. Someone needs to interview construction companies to find out their employment situation.
Edited on Sat Jul-10-10 11:01 AM by LiberalFighter
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 06:12 AM
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44. Unemployment in the construction sector is over 20%
and that's for June
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:31 AM
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52. Exactly. Ask Corbett for some referrals. n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:01 AM
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8. Here is an article about Pennsylvania and Pittsburg still losing construction jobs.
Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh still losing construction jobs

Pennsylvania and metro Pittsburgh continued to lose construction jobs in May, according to new data from the Associated General Contractors of America. But the region and the state didn't fare as badly as most other areas in the report.

Pittsburgh ranked 44th out of 337 metro areas for construction job losses, with a loss of 400 jobs (a decline of 1 percent) from May 2009 to May 2010. The area now has a total of 54,700 construction jobs.

Pennsylvania saw a 4 percent dip in the period, losing 9,100 construction jobs for a total of 221,500 jobs in the state.

“With current demand soft and chances of a turnaround months away, construction firms are unwilling to expand payrolls,” said Ken Simonson, the association’s chief economist. “Contractors know there’s nothing to take up the slack once the stimulus runs its course.”

Read more: Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh still losing construction jobs - Pittsburgh Business Times


Source: Pittsburgh Business Times
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:45 AM
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14. Onorato's campaign should make an ad out of this,
contrasting Corbett's "The jobs are there" remarks -- complete with the supposed laments from anonymous heads of "construction companies" -- with this report showing the loss of 9100 construction jobs statewide in just one recent month.

Nine thousand, one hundred jobs construction jobs (221,500 jobs total) cut in one month, juxtaposed with the jobs are there, you workers are just lazy meme.

Sounds like a winner to me!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:30 PM
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19. Oh yes, if that let this opportunity go by with out challenging this jerk,
they are very, very foolish.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:29 AM
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10. We should challenge these loud mouth idiots to put a daily list of
these jobs on their web pages so people know what jobs they are talking about. Put the proof where their mouth is.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:31 PM
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20. Exactly-challenging him on his comment about jobs being there. n/t
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:30 AM
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11. some who get tax cuts would make money anyway
some rich people --many of them, in fact -- would make the exact same amount of money with the top tax rate being 33%, 35%, 40%, 60% or whatever.

yet republicans rail about how we need the tax rate for the rich cut so they can make jobs.


do you EVER hear anyone complain about a RICH person taking their tax cut without having created any extra jobs?
DEADBEATS! LAZY BASTARDS!!
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:32 AM
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12. Been on unemployment...
...was grateful to have it.
Would rather have been working and was very HAPPY :bounce: :party::woohoo: when I got another job and was able to dispense with that bi-weekly pittance.

:shrug:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:38 AM
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13. Some people would
But I believe the number is very, very low.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:30 AM
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40. Corbett is Right
I'm sure there is a small percentage of people on unemployment who would rather have that than work. Of those, a few may genuinely be lazy. The rest may be practical. For example, if some one is getting $100 a week on unemployment and offered part time work that would get them $200 a week but necessitate putting their child in Day Care at a cost of $100 a week, at least looking at the short term numbers, they are better off on unemployment.

Years ago, I knew a woman who had worked in a welfare office. I asked her if it ever bothered her that there were people out there gaming the system. I never believed that all people on welfare were lazy, but did think the system was flawed and maybe not the best way to help people. Anyway, she replied something like that if there were nine people gaming the system but one who truly needed it and would truly be homeless/starve without it, she was okay with it.

I think it comes down to perspective. She would rather help nine "bad" people than let one "good" person suffer. I think most Conservatives would rather let nine "good" people suffer than help one "bad" person.

I know unemployment isn't welfare, but I think both show our views on helping others.

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 11:46 AM
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15. You can always count on a Republican to use their bullshit
screaming meme. Keep destroying yourselves Republicans.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:16 PM
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17. What a crock. Funny, if there are jobs out there, why haven't I gotten one yet
(last unemployment check comes this week)? There are so many people looking for jobs and not enough jobs out there. This guy has his head up his ass.
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daligirl519 Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 06:07 PM
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35. I got my last check two weeks ago.
I'm one of those who was unlucky enough to only get the standard 26 weeks. I have daily looked for work for six months. I finally got over the depression of the constant rejection from companies to which I have applied, and now these jackasses are getting my blood pressure back up again. I am in northern Indiana, and there are NO jobs here. These people need to be tarred and feathered.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 07:06 PM
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38. I'm on the last of my 26 weeks as well (got laid off in Jan.), and I'm in VA.
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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 06:56 PM
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37. I hope all works out well for you! n/t
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 07:07 PM
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39. Thanks.
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Autumn Colors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:16 PM
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16. Press him to NAME those construction companies
If he can't come up with one name of a person or a company who actually said they can't get people to come back to work until unemployment runs out, then he's a liar.

If he can name a company, spread the word so someone out there gets a job.

I'm betting that second scenario would never happen, though....
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 12:29 PM
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18. Someone needs to challenge him on job availability in PA.
As a PA resident, I don't see that "the jobs are there" at all. And, as far as construction jobs, I don't see construction going on either. Who are his friends that have job opening that no one is interested in? Are these jobs full time with benefits that one could take and support a family with. Or are we talking seasonal, occasional work, with minimum pay and no benefits. And, his is ignorant to all the women who are out of work also. Frankly, construction is something I have no experience in. And, I would like to see if any of his "friends" would consider even hiring women for these positions.
After this ignorant comment,I will work to make sure this idiot does not get to be our governor.
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 05:29 PM
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34. The moron is talking out of his ass...there is nothing workwise around me
nothing at all
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 01:22 PM
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21. If that were true, these people didn't have to wait to be laid off . . .!!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 01:23 PM
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22. 70 Graduates are now vying for every one job . . .!!!
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 01:35 PM
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23. Tom "Marie Antoinette" Corbett says, "Let them eat cake." nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 01:38 PM
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24. The Bihg Lie. Spout BS enough times and people start believing you.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 01:43 PM
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25. Perhaps Republican gubernatorial candidate Tom Corbett should
Be unemployed? Last I checked, unemployment checks could hardly feed anyone, let alone pay the rent, electricity, water, heating etc.
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 02:22 PM
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26. I always love the anonymous anecodotal evidence ...
Ranks up there with "SOME SAY" (And who would that BE, by the way?)

I just love right-wing "evidence." There never is any ... just a vague statement we're all supposed to buy into.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 03:23 PM
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27. Why doesn't he get a real job instead of wanting to feed off the govt teat? nt
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 03:35 PM
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29. That's what gets me about these guys. If the gummint is so bad why do they want
to work for it?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 03:37 PM
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30. No== Its Swill from the Government Trough
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The Second Stone Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 03:33 PM
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28. In California your benefits cut off
if you don't go back to work when the job opens up and the company calls you back. Probably the same in Penn. You must also write down the jobs you applied for every other week so they can check and make sure.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 04:25 PM
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31. What he said is standard economics
From Paul Krugman's "Macroeconomics," one of the standard textbooks on economics...

"Public policy designed to help workers who lose their jobs can lead to structural unemployment as an unintended side effect... In other countries, particularly in Europe, benefits are more generous and last longer. The drawback to this generosity is that it reduces a worker's incentive to quickly find a new job. Generous unemployment benefits in some European countries are widely believed to be one of the main causes of "Eurosclerosis," the persistent high unemployment that affects a number of European countries.
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 02:10 PM
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41. Where are the 14+ million jobs?!?!?
I'm not talking macroeconomics; I'm talking real world. Where are these millions of jobs people are not taking?

And, knowing that full employment is difficult to attain, show me 7 million jobs. The latest jobs report showed less than 500,000 new jobs and once you take out the Census, it was more like 40,000. So, show me how the math works on that.

And "generous," hardly. I guess I'm not homeless yet, so you could say I'm living large. I have no health insurance and can't afford to fix my paid-for car that I only drove two times a week anyway. I would MUCH rather have my old job and salary back.

We can talk economic theory all day, but don't give me this textbook crap unless you are living the reality of this economy every day.

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 09:18 AM
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47. Did you learn how to add and subtract in grade school, robcon? The problem is on the demand end, not
supply. There is no demand for anything right now. Not jobs, not things, not houses, nothing. There is a huge supply of all of these things, however. Too many people willing to work but not enough jobs for all these people -- or even close to all of these people.

All the while more and more money is being siphoned *out* of the economy and into some very powerful peoples' savings accounts, where that money then stays, rather than circulates.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:14 AM
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51. Any sources cited for that conclusion in the footnotes?
Any sources cited for that conclusion in the footnotes in the publication?
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:38 AM
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53. Paul Krugman wants unemployment benefits extended.......
July 4, 2010 NYT Op-Ed:

"There was a time when everyone took it for granted that unemployment insurance, which normally terminates after 26 weeks, would be extended in times of persistent joblessness. It was, most people agreed, the decent thing to do.

But that was then. Today, American workers face the worst job market since the Great Depression, with five job seekers for every job opening, with the average spell of unemployment now at 35 weeks. Yet the Senate went home for the holiday weekend without extending benefits. How was that possible?

The answer is that we’re facing a coalition of the heartless, the clueless and the confused. Nothing can be done about the first group, and probably not much about the second. But maybe it’s possible to clear up some of the confusion."

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/05/opinion/05krugman.html?_r=2
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 04:40 PM
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32. You could consider Corbett's salary to be unemployment
seeing that he is not earning his money from a private sector job. By Tommy's logic, this is the case.
It needs to be stated once again, the GOP/Tea parties may be the only thing to save the Democrats this fall.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 04:47 PM
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33. He must be talking about unemployed Republicans (nt)
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-10-10 06:26 PM
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36. You may wonder if this man looks every bright as you'd expect him to look:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 02:19 PM
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42. This has been the Repug talking point for many months now
notice how they blame the victims who are suffering but they don't go after the corporations who are not hiring and holding on to their money.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 09:24 AM
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48. The jobs are there? What, working at a McDonalds? And even then, most people are
turned down for being overqualified. I fail to see where all these wonderful "jobs" are.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 09:29 AM
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49. What explains over a million 99ers? No job, no unemployment checks. No one give a rap.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:00 AM
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50. Suggestion... don't give this tool a job!
He just wants to live off of the state dime!
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mariema Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 12:12 PM
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54. Why haven't these supposed employers reported the people who
refused to take the jobs that were offered? There aren't any jobs and none are being offered.

I think this is all just BS.

Like that Repug jackass (can't remember his name at the moment)running for office in MN who said that waiters and waitresses should only get $2.16 an hour because some restaurant owner said there were a couple servers working there who make $100,000.00 a year. If that is true the business at that restaurant must be fantastic or they must have extremely generous tippers. I said someone from the IRS should look into it to see just how much the place actually takes in.

We all know that guys like that and like Corbett just pull "facts" out of their butts and, with straight faces, lie to us.
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True_Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:46 PM
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56. True
I find it hard to believe that this unnamed company wouldn't have turned them in, especially considering that they went to the trouble to contact their Congressman about all these unemployed people turning down jobs.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:23 PM
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55. 2
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:46 PM
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57. well if your last job was 18/hr and you can get 10/hr unemployment
instead of working a shit-stain 8.00 an hour job, wouldn't that just make you a tea bag 'capitalist' of sorts?
I mean doesn't that person owe it to themselves and their family to look for at least 12/13 hr while they can on the 10/hr benefit?

What is wrong with these people who think everyone should get erections (penile & clitoral) over $8/hr??
$8 and hour was a decent wage in 1975 is SOME parts of the country. 19 fucking 75. Get real.
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