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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:34 PM
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Va. man back in US after weeks on no-fly list
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 06:36 PM by cory777
Source: AP

WASHINGTON — A Virginia man whose time in Yemen earned FBI scrutiny and left him stuck in the Middle East for nearly two months on a no-fly list is back on U.S. soil.

Yahya Wehelie (weh-HEEL'-ee) said Saturday evening that he's looking forward to eating his mom's lasagna now that he's back with his family.

Wehelie's flight landed in New York on Saturday afternoon. His family met him there and planned to drive him back to the Washington area.



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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:46 PM
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1. I don't suppose they ever told him WHY he was on the NFL??
That's the thing that bothers me so much.. Names get put on the NFL, people are detained, but I don't think anyone ever finds out WHY!
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 06:49 PM
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2. So, I saw your avatar, the reference to the "NFL", and got confused...
Took me a second. :D

WRT your question, the article explains it. He went to a state flagged for terrorism.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:29 PM
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4. Does everyone who travels to a terroriststate get that same
treatment? I guess there's not much reason to visit Yemen, Pakistan, Iraq or any of the others just for a vacation. I woul think you'd have to have family or friends there or you wouldn't bother to go.

I just can't forget when Teddy Kennedy was on the watch list. He said "I knew who to call to get this resolved, bt what about the avg. person? What can THEY DO?" No one has ever answered that question.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:34 PM
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5. The article said nothing about a vacation
He was there for language study, as the article says outright.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:26 PM
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9. Are you calling Yemen a "terror state?"
The US does not consider that to be the case. It has pretty cordial relations with the Yemeni state.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:54 PM
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10. I guess I did because if you look at the response to me, the poster said
" the article explains it. He went to a state flagged for terrorism" Truthfully I don't know the difference between a "terrrist State" & "a state flagged for terrorism".
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:07 PM
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11. This no fly thing is poorly implemented.
We deserve some level of transparency with this policy.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:09 PM
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13. I agree, but I can still understand the lack of transparency too.
If I wanted to find a way around getting put on that list the more info I could get the easier it would be. I honestly don't know what the solution is, but there have been far too many people, not only inconvenienced, but prevented from traveling because it seems far to easy to put soeone ON the list than it is to get someone OFF! Maybe some groupof contacts so you could have a way to prove your case.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:16 PM
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14. Competent "terror" groups would have nothing to worry about from the "no fly list."
I cannot see how this policy does anything to enhance security.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:14 AM
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16. So far there haven't BEEN any competent terrorist groups.
That includes the ones who flew the planes into the towers. They weren't cometent, we were STUPID and they got lucky. There were MANY occasions where we should have found them, from learning to fly a commercial plane but not careing about learning how to land, toignoring the warnings from several other countries that there was an attack planned on the US using planes! I'm not even sure I blame Shrub for all the failure. Our CIA, FBI, National Security, AND the military ALL failed!

The only person who ever said "I appologize to the American People" was Richard Clarke, and the ShrubCO criticized him fordoing THAT!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:20 PM
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15. Iirc, he was at a college where at least two students were under suspicion
and that suspicion eventually spread to the whole (small) school. Yes, he knew why he was on the list.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:17 AM
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17. You're the first person I heard say that. At least I'm glad he knew.
Right or wrong, I just hate hearing the stupid stuff like someone who has a name similar to a suspicious person, babies names on the list, and of course Ted Kennedy!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:31 AM
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18. I know. That was ridiculous, just like asking grandma's to remove their shoes.
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SocialistLez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:04 PM
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3. How is this breaking news worthy? NT
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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:45 PM
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6. Why is it not?
Edited on Sat Jul-17-10 07:46 PM by cory777
What do you consider Latest Breaking News? Thanks for the pointless comment. NT
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:40 PM
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7. Uh oh. Did you let your mask slip just now??
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cory777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:50 PM
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8. Interesting question
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:50 PM
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12. Demonstrates the total crapitude of the boosh
supa sekrit turrah list?

At least, that's what I take from it.
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