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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 07:58 PM
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Revealed: brutal guide to punishing jailed youths(UK)
Source: The Observer

Shocking details of techniques used to inflict pain deliberately on children in privately run jails have been revealed for the first time in a government document obtained by the Observer.

Some of the restraint and self-defence measures approved by the Ministry of Justice include ramming knuckles into ribs and raking shoes down the shins. Other extraordinary passages in the previously secret manual, Physical Control in Care, authorise staff to:

■ "Use an inverted knuckle into the trainee's sternum and drive inward and upward."

■ "Continue to carry alternate elbow strikes to the young person's ribs until a release is achieved."

■ "Drive straight fingers into the young person's face, and then quickly drive the straightened fingers of the same hand downwards into the young person's groin area."

The disclosure of the prison service manual follows a five-year freedom of information battle. The manual was condemned last night by campaigners as "state authorisation of institutionalised child abuse".

Published by the HM Prison Service in 2005 and classified as a restricted government document, the manual guides staff on what restraint and self-defence techniques are authorised for use on children as young as 12 in secure training centres. The centres are purpose-built facilities for young offenders up to the age of 17 and run by private firms under government contracts.



Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/18/guide-punishing-jailed-youths
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:22 PM
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1. Reminds me of Charles Dickens.
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SILVER__FOX52 Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:29 PM
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2. Can you say, boot camp.....
kids die in our jails.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 08:38 PM
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:04 PM
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4. Thanks
For the info.

Would hope that the procedure is available and monitored by the public. Even on the private corps.
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 09:16 PM
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5. Quit trying to make a point by cherrypicking
unless you want to be like limpballs, insanity, or douch beck.

You want to make a difference..get your facts and shit together
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:03 PM
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6. Try It
It might work.
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 10:33 PM
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7. So why are you giving
8-19 year-olds "hooks, scissors, and other sharp objects to play with"???
It seems you're just setting them up to get the "release" achieved.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:03 PM
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15. Would the reporters and editors who broke the story be "jerks" too
or only the poster you're replying to?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:06 PM
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16. Oh, and before I forget
"I volunteer in a maximum security youth facility"

Who the hell does THAT?

Normal people volunteer in, say, soup kitchens.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-17-10 11:03 PM
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8. hmmm, the Brits consider themselves so "civilized" n/t
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:28 AM
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9. As the right wing rises . . .
the shocks keep coming -- !!
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:31 AM
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10. Captain Bligh
lives on!
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 09:16 AM
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11. These are all common self defense techniques.
Especially in Krav Maga. I dunno how they're using them there, but what they're designed to do is make an attacker back off.
If they're being used for self defense, then there's nothing wrong with them. If they're actually using them as punishment, then it's torture.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 12:09 PM
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12. best response in this thread, IMO....
Nonlethal, and likely non-injurious self defense techniques are necessary in that setting. But they shouldn't be used for purposes other than self-defense. I'm thinking specifically about "pain compliance."
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panzerfaust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:35 PM
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13. If you read the article in the Guardian
you will find that this document was released as the result of a freedom of information request filed as the result of a lawsuit stemming from the death of a fourteen year old boy in one of these private "secure training centres" ...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/jul/18/guide-punishing-jailed-youths
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 04:43 PM
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14. Maybe use of that kind of technique instead of relying on Tasers would result in fewer deaths
Edited on Sun Jul-18-10 04:44 PM by slackmaster
Sometimes unruly people need to be controlled with force, for their own safety as well as that of others.

I gave this an Unrec because of the misleading headline. This has nothing to do with punishment.
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