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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:17 PM
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BP Considers New Plan to Permanently Seal Well
Source: NY Times

As scientists on Monday allayed concerns that BP’s well in the Gulf of Mexico was damaged, the company said it was considering an alternative plan that could permanently seal the gusher sooner than had been anticipated.

Kent Wells, a senior vice president for BP, said the company was studying the possibility of a “static kill,” in which heavy mud would be pumped into the recently capped well. Also known as bullheading, the procedure would force the oil and gas back down into the reservoir.

“The static kill does give us a new option,” he said at a briefing in Houston. A decision to proceed could be made in several days, Mr. Wells said. He said that the procedure could speed the process of sealing the well and that the digging of a relief well, which has been seen as the ultimate solution and could be completed by August, might be needed only to confirm that the technique had worked.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/20/us/20oilspill.html?_r=1



I am all for anything that will plug this gusher.. the sooner the better.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:19 PM
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1. How and why is that different from a top kill which did not work?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:22 PM
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3. With the top kill, the mud went straight out the top of the BOP.
That system at the time had a leak - a gigantic gaping leak in the form of the top of the BOP that was wiiiiiide open.

Now they finally have that new cap and valve system on it that's actually sealed up the BP gusher (more or less.)

Which means that now, the capability is there to pump mud down under tremendous pressure, and have it not come out the top of the BOP.

Assuming the BOP and well casing don't rupture under the pressure...
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:30 PM
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5. Taking risks to save time and money doesn't always end up well.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 08:31 PM by LisaL
Why now? Supposedly relief wells are almost done?
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:35 PM
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7. I'm skeptical too.
BP does not have a good history on these matters, so until I'm DAAAAAMNED sure they're not gonna fuck this up worse, I'm not in favor of this.
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obxhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:33 PM
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6. The flow is contained by the cap now.
During the top kill they were trying to stop the flow of the oil with mud. The flow was simply to fast to be stopped that way.

With the cap on the flow has stopped and now the mud and cement would just be pushing the oil back down the well bore without fighting that extreme flow.

That's how I understand it anyway.
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:54 PM
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15. Yes, but at a pressure that could cause
irreversible damage.
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SILVER__FOX52 Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:23 PM
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12. Stick with Bottom Kill.....
It's got the best chance of permanent sealing. Don't mess with the cap.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:20 PM
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2. There's potential, but pumping huge amounts of mud in there will generate a lot of pressure.
The question is can the damaged BOP, well casings, etc. handle that pressure?

I'm not an engineer, but I'd be wary about trying something like this until the engineers and scientists have crunched the numbers, ran the simulations, and have assurance that this will indeed kill the well and not cause another uncontrollable blowout.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:25 PM
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4. I agree with that.. seems like this might be one of those leave well enough alone situations..
no pun intended. But if the risk is low then I think its good idea to go for it and get this hole plugged ASAP.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:41 PM
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8. The BOP was designed to handle these pressures.
Had the well not blown out, the BOP would have seen pressures like this during normal service. It is speculated the BOP failed due to faulty seals that were damaged by an accident during a test. The new cap has a new set of seals.

The mud keeps the oil down due to it's higher density and is standard in any well that is drilled. Another cause of the blowout was the removal of this mud as BP forced the well to be sealed quickly so the rig could move to a new site.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:09 PM
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11. It's not just the BOP, but also the well casings themselves.
And there's also the fact that they were damaged during the blowout, so they might not be able to handle as much pressure as they used to. Right now, we're hearing news stories about seeps...

Oh, and not to mention that the blowout happened in the first place because the well and BOP were not put together correctly - bad cement jobs, not enough centralizers, BOP that didn't work, because BP was cheaping out...

Not to say that a top-kill from a now-sealed BOP & cap & stack won't work, but I'd prefer the engineers made damned sure that such an operation was safe before attempting it.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:59 PM
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14. I'm sure the engineers are doing that.
The engineers have been involved all along. The early attempts to shut the well down were known to be long shots, but it was felt it was worth it to try. As for the casing, mud is normally used to stabilize casings, so this may have a benefit. I guess we'll see...
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 07:04 AM
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19. The folks over at oildrum have been debating "static kill" and seems there is no consensus.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6753

some say too risky, others say its worth the risk.

:shrug:
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:05 PM
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10. No, it would not generate pressure
The pressure in the well is roughly equalized with the very large reservoir. The relatively small volume of mud and grout they would be pushing into the system will cause very little increase in pressure, just enough to push the oil back down the hole. Maybe 100 psi more than is in the well already.
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Greg K Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:44 PM
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9. I was thinking this might be a possibility.
The "top kill" didn't work because they had to pump in mud fast enough to overcome the flow of oil, and couldn't do it. This could work since the oil is no longer moving, they just have to overcome the 7000psi pressure at the bop and can pump the mud in fairly slowly.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:23 AM
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17. also, the pressure is lower now since the reservoir is somewhat depleted..
it might work but it concerns me there could be significant risks.
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:57 PM
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13. another week...another "new plan"...?
How about busting ass and getting the relief well finished and kill it.

tick...tick...tick...

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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 11:35 PM
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16. Or, the increased pressure could blow that new cap right off.
Why don't they just keep it shut and continue with the relief wells?
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 06:24 AM
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18. I suspect they probably will do that but I think the idea is the sooner they get it plugged..
the better.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-20-10 09:46 AM
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20. That's assuming it is going to get plugged, and not go up in a big
BOOM by using this procedure.
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