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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:20 AM
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Clarke Calls for Declassification of Testimony on Terrorism
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 11:43 AM by Tuttle
News Alert at NYT no link yet

Looks like he's turning the tables on this thing -- good for him!

Tut-tut

on edit: added link
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Sept-11-Commission.html?hp

Bring it on, as they say...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:23 AM
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1. de-classify it all!
everything pre and post 9-11, pre and post iraq invasion

declassify and release the cheney energy documents

TIME TO BUST OPEN BUSH*'S LOCKBOX, DRAG CHENEY FROM HIS HIDEY HOLE AND LET THE SUNSHINE IN!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:35 PM
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14. Just like the Adams
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:30 AM
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2. Ex-Bush Aide Calls for Testimony on Terrorism to Be Opened
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 11:40 AM by pinto
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: March 28, 2004


Filed at 11:10 a.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The independent commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks will not relent in its pursuit of public testimony from the president's national security adviser but is unlikely to subpoena Condoleezza Rice, the panel's chairman said Sunday.

The former chief counterterrorism adviser at the White House, who has criticized the Bush administration's preparedness for the attacks, said he would welcome the attempt by leading Republicans to declassify 2-year-old congressional testimony.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Sept-11-Commission.html?hp

(reg required)
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:32 AM
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3. Can you repost with actual headline, please?
And mods please lock... thanks,

Tut-tut
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:38 AM
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5. You still have time to post link and edit your headline here
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:44 AM
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7. thanks... will do
n/t

Tut-tut
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:41 AM
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6. thanks, reposted, original was the one they had on print only version
at 10:58...
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rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:38 AM
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4. Woops. Did the misAdministration just make a strategeric mistake?
Weren't they the ones to initiate this idea?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:48 AM
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8. Russert tried to get Clarke to open the way for selective declassification.
and Clarke EMPHASIZED that it has to be complete.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:37 PM
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15. Gee I wonder why Russert only suggested selective instead of full
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:52 AM
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9. Clarke just called Frist's bluff
Frist is so clueless, he should have just kept him mouth shut and this would have never come up. But in trying to please his masters he really put his blew it. Now, let's see who else committed perjury? Come on Frist, declassify those files, all of them.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:38 PM
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16. Every one of us should call our Senators and complain about Frist
That means calling primarily your Repug Senators if you have any. Let them know OUR anger about their lies.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:43 PM
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22. Frist is such a sleazebag...
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 01:44 PM by RainDog
Either on Talking Points or Billmon or Atrios' blog..or maybe all...they noted that Frist accused Clarke of perjury when Frist was on the Senate floor...WHERE HE IS IMMUNE from charges of slander.

When Frist was off the Senate floor, however, he backed down and said he didn't know whether or not...

But he made sure he got his remarks into the Senate record, without having to account for his own attempts to smear a man who is trying to help figure out how to avoid the errors of the past.

What a sleazebag.
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ultramega Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:43 PM
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27. Frist's book on bio-terror ("capitalizing on tragedy" who?)
"When Every Moment Counts:' What you need to know about Bio-terrorism from the Senates only doctor" (2002, Rowman and Littlfield)

Such a hypocrite. Did he donate all the proceeds of this book to the families of the victims of the anthrax poisonings, like he's telling Clarke to do for the 9/11 families? Talk about "trading on insider acces to highly classified information and CAPITALIZING ON THE TRAGEDY..." (Frist on Clarke)

The blurb for this book is sickening: "in this indispensible guide, U.S. Senator Bill Frist...offers straightforward , practical advice on how to keep your loved ones safe." I'm so sure. Get out the duct tape and plastic wrap.

But this does explain how some harmless strain of ricin was used to divert the press from the 9/11 commission extensions, since apparently this is an area of expertise for Fri$t
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:33 PM
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24. Here's how you do it, TOLL FREE:
Check my sig line. FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING...

Call the Capitol Hill Switchboard, TOLL FREE, and they'll transfer you - to Frist's office, or any other scumbag's office in the House and/or Senate. YES. ESPECIALLY THE REPUBLI-CONS. They'll argue. They'll evade. They'll give excuses. They'll throw up lots of red herrings. But they still need this back in their faces. THROWN THERE BY US, and others of like mind. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, TOO! Because, as long as they are apologists for, and excuse-makers for, and spinners for, and rationalization-makers for, and attack dogs for, and red-herring-claimers for this White House, THEY ARE ALL COMPLICIT.

And they need to hear THAT, too. One or two of them may actually have a conscience that will be jangled a little. Maybe back to life, even...
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Mel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:04 PM
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30. I did
called on Friday.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:05 PM
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18. The best thing NBC did for Clarke was to run the footage of Frist
with his foot in his mouth - he will probably regret his participation in the character assassination of Clarke.

He is a colorless-weak-wimpy liar and spinner with a disgusting sense of propriety.
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 07:20 PM
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38. I knew Frist could be more disgusting than Lott. Lott`s a close second
though.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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High Sierra Buck Donating Member (137 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:53 AM
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10. As in the famous words of Dumbya, Bring It On
I think that has been the plan all along to really bring this thing home! Get the RW'ers all upset and jumping up and down, frothing at the mouth and kind of walk them into a nice big bear trap where we get to say, oh, you want proof, we want you to release all ZEE papers, darn the bad luck, bring it on!!
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:36 PM
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21. Good analogy, High Sierra Buck.
And welcome to the ranks of the 'evil DUers'! :hi: :toast:
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 11:58 AM
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11. Clarke was great on MTP!
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 11:59 AM by Jim__
Compare his answers to the ones Bush gave when he was on. Picture Bush trying to debate Clarke on terrorism.

Now, the smear on Clarke's appearance will begin. I challenge any of the smearers, Condi, Bush, Cheney , Frist, or anyone else to debate Clarke head to head. He'd bury them.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:35 PM
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13. Yes, he WAS. Repeat after me - "BRING IT ON!"
Declassify EVERYTHING. He did forget one thing though - those presidential daily briefs should also be declassified. But, yes, Clarke was wonderful on "Meet the Press."

Funny, it was 45 minutes after the hour before Russert finally got around to the subject Clarke pointed out, at the beginning, was the distraction point - what all this other crap he's been answering questions about was designed to divert attention from: DID THE WAR ON IRAQ HELP OR HURT THE WAR ON TERRORISM (as Clarke maintains it DID)?

Also, I noticed that, as with his appearance on the "Larry King" show this past week, Clarke brought up the "wag the dog" accusations republi-CONS were throwing at Clinton when Clinton tried to go get al Qaeda, and Clarke used the reminder word "Monica" just to make sure we all knew the context of his "wag the dog" assertion. Clarke used the wording "...the media. The MEDIA." Russert just sailed right by that one. Like Larry King, Russert didn't even touch that one. Probably hoping it'd just sail away. Probably hoping he himself wouldn't be questioned about that, since he, Russert, was part of that "wag the dog" ploy. VERY MUCH a part of it. He bought into it like all the rest of them did. Some of them were ON HIS SHOW making "wag the dog" claims and he never tried to steer THAT subject back on track then, either. Russert was/is every inch a part of THAT problem, and complicit in that, as well.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:09 PM
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19. He makes me believe that the taxpayers got their money's worth from
his employment by the government for 30 years - in that he was always doing his job. Personnally, I have to counter that with the nature of the job which was to recommend killing.
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Florida_Geek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:29 PM
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12. Bulldog was what Clarke was called
a very very smart Bulldog.
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RedSock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 12:44 PM
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17. i love the main times site!!!
Clarke "said he would welcome declassification of his testimony two years ago before a joint House-Senate intelligence inquiry into the attacks on the United States. ... "Let's declassify everything," Mr. Clarke said on the NBC News program "Meet the Press." He also said that the private testimony of the president's national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, before the commission should be declassified. He added that e-mail messages, memos and all other correspondence between Ms. Rice and Mr. Clarke should be included in that."

*******

take that pukes! what do you cowards say now?

go clarke go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 01:16 PM
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20. And this is how the story keeps going because at the next WH briefing...
we'll hear the question, "Simple Scotty, will the WH be releasing all of Richard Clarke's testimony in the matter of the 9/11 commission, all his emails to Dr. Rice and all her responses to him? Scott? Scott?"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:31 PM
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23. hee hee....
That is an excellent scenario alcuno! :)
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:37 PM
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25. It takes a Republican to bring a Republican down.
It's actually nice to see a Reaganite taking it to these neo-con thugs. Shows how low the GOP has sunk in the last 20-30 years.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:12 PM
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31. Too bad Democrats don't play as mean and smart as the Republicans
That would be great!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:41 PM
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26. Clarke is Playing this MASTERFULLY!
It's like watching grand chess master play against a retarded monkey...Oh, actually, that's exactly what it IS.
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 02:57 PM
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28. saw Clarke on the news shows this AM and was impressed at his
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 02:58 PM by pinto
simple, straightforward case about the history of our country's approach to Islamic militancy. Compared that with Perle's "rebuttal" later, which relied on a string of red herrings and a sort of patronizing "old pal" character assassination. Clarke seemed as objective as one could be, given some 30 years in the business, while Perle's riff seemed awkward and construed.

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 03:59 PM
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29. I worship Clarke
Kerry has a tough act to follow, but his remarks about Condoleeezzza giving 60 minutes of her time to the commission were right up there in my book.
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:33 PM
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32. MTP transcript
for those of you who have a violent reaction to Russert

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4608698/

Tut-tut
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:46 PM
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33. the white house should never have made Clarke into an enemy. they don't
have any resources as brilliant as he is to use against him... when they lost him, when we lost him, a great strategic resource was lost to our entire country. you see what happens when you pit a weirdo like karl rove against a brilliant man like Clarke? all that stuff that bushco has been flinging around hoping it "sticks" is now falling off the walls and ceiling, and it's on their heads and they're tripping over all of it.
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carolinayellowdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:46 PM
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34. He comes out of every exchange looking more credible
so the Bushies are doing him and everyone a favor as they keep attacking his credibility with Condi, who keeps losing hers in the process. Richard Clarke epitomizes gravitas, and diminishes by contrast the media whores who interview him and the GOP hacks who try to destroy his reputation.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 04:55 PM
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35. Game, Set, Match to Clarke
This is pure gold...he called Frist's bluff and the administration's hiding in one beautiful statement.

I can't WAIT to see Scotty at the next briefing!

(I just hope that Clarke has his family protected.)
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nwstrn Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 05:44 PM
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36. Clarke reading *'s letter was a classic moment
If Repubs want to go after Clarke as incompetent and "out of the loop," they will get burned. I love how Clarke on MTP held up *'s handwritten letter to him:

"Dear Dick, you will be missed. You served our nation with distinction and honor. You have left a positive mark on our government."

I'm actually surprised that * could write a complete sentence. Condi probably dictated it to him.

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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-04 06:24 PM
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37. I wouldn't credit Condi with authorship of the letter unless...
Edited on Sun Mar-28-04 06:24 PM by CreekDog
...the letter is full of lies.

This conclusion is based on observation.
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wabeewoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-04 01:35 AM
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39. So true CreekDog!
I am continually amazed at a government official who thinks we are so stupid we don't notice she lies and lies and lies...
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